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Ziggy

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I had a thought... (it happens sometimes :) )

The tree of knowledge is the Father, and the tree of Life is the Son.
And no man comes to the Father but by the son.
So they bypassed Jesus (life and truth and grace)
and went right for judgement and vengeance.

just thinking...
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satan turned wisdom into death. it can't be The Father.
I think the Tree of Life ends up Righteously Burning the tree of knowledge
 

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Satan turned wisdom into death...
hmm
why do you say that?
 

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He was wise before he went dark.

If the Vector Field handles Electromagnetism/LIGHT, could scalar volumes be darkness?

Is this the cause of the Uncertainty Principle?

Was GOD starting Free Will by separating LIGHT from dark?
(Righteous Non-Local vs self-righteous local)

Is the Tree of Life the Universal Wave from the Vector Field?
Don't get me wrong, we still need Christ to connect our spirit to the Tree of Life.
 
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Our spirit becomes non-local when it is Righteous. It joined the Universal Wave. It Joined Christ.
 

Curtis

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I don't think the trees were physical. Temptation happened in the mind of Jesus in the desert ..so why didn't it happen the same way for Adam?

We each have a timeline with decision trees along it. The question is ..is the root node Righteous or self-righteous? Spiritual Circumcision changes the root node.

Sure is weird Cain went to Nod ...node

Scripture says Eve saw that the fruit on the tree was good for food.

Sounds literal.
 

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Eating means to give into a choice.

A choice isn’t good for food.

The fruit was good for food.

It didn’t just say that she ate of the fruit, but that she SAW that the FRUIT was good for food, and then ate.

You don’t see metaphors.
 
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A choice isn’t good for food.

The fruit was good for food.

It didn’t just say that she ate of the fruit, but that she SAW that the FRUIT was good for food, and then ate.

You don’t see metaphors.


temptation happens in the mind. The temptation of Jesus in the desert was in His Mind.
 

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Righteous = Has the Word of GOD/Truth in their Heart. GOD's Law and The Gospel become your perception of reality.
 

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It removes spiritual blindness. The Truth of the situation (reality) we are in.
 

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If the Tower Of Babel was about carnal man trying to save himself from another flood ..does that make the flood, GOD's Presence?
Adam and Eve / Cain and Abel is about GOD's Presence.

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BARNEY BRIGHT

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temptation happens in the mind. The temptation of Jesus in the desert was in His Mind.

Temptation begins in the mind and heart but doesn't bear fruit unless you give in to the temptation. Eve gave in to the temptation and literally ate the fruit. If she had not eaten of the fruit she would have been tempted yes, but the temptation wouldn't have born fruit unless she gave in to the temptation, which she did. So the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was a literal tree. The sin was that Eve literally ate of the fruit of the forbidden tree. If Eve only had been tempted but not eaten of the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil then she would not have sinned. So Eve would have eaten a literal fruit making the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil a literal tree.
 

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Temptation begins in the mind and heart but doesn't bear fruit unless you give in to the temptation. Eve gave in to the temptation and literally ate the fruit. If she had not eaten of the fruit she would have been tempted yes, but the temptation wouldn't have born fruit unless she gave in to the temptation, which she did. So the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was a literal tree. The sin was that Eve literally ate of the fruit of the forbidden tree. If Eve only had been tempted but not eaten of the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil then she would not have sinned. So Eve would have eaten a literal fruit making the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil a literal tree.

Eve didn’t just yield to temptation, she was deceived, but Adam wasn’t.
 

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Eve didn’t just yield to temptation, she was deceived, but Adam wasn’t.

That doesn't changed the fact that Eve had to have eaten of a literal fruit to have succumbed to the temptation. It's an act of disobedience that caused Adam and Eve to fall into sin. That isn't changed because Eve was deceived and Adam wasn't.
 

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If the Tower Of Babel was about carnal man trying to save himself from another flood ..does that make the flood, GOD's Presence?
Adam and Eve / Cain and Abel is about GOD's Presence.

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Where does it say in scripture that the tower of Babel was about mankind trying to save himself from another flood?
 

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Genesis 11:4
Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.

"make a name for ourselves" ..without GOD
"the whole earth" ..just like the flood
 
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Genesis 11:4
Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.

"make a name for ourselves" ..without GOD
"the whole earth" ..just like the flood
They didn’t scatter over the earth in the flood: they drowned.