Trinity Explained…

[skypair]

The Trinity can be explained as the image of God mirrored in each (one) man. As the Father is to God, the soul is to man .. as the Holy Ghost is to God, the "inward man" (soul + spirit) is to man. As the Son is to God, the body is to man. Now these 3 are said to be "Persons" because they go through changes wherein they are different in body and will. The Father in heaven made Himself the Holy Ghost (Word/Spirit + Light/Son), the pre-incarnate Son in order to create all that exists in the physical realm. Then the Holy Ghost "made Himself" into the Son begetting the Son by the Spirit.

Remember when God told Moses to tell the Jews "I am that I am?" God/pre-incarnate Christ was telling them the He was God who was, is, and will be. Then Jesus told the Pharisees the very same thing — "I am" — and they took up stones to stone Him. They both were claiming to be one with the Father thought different persons than the Father. And so, upon His death, the Son returned to His Holy Ghost body .. and in the kingdom of God, He will become His Father's body so that we may see the one God face to face, Rev 22:4.

Now man is also a trinity IF he is saved. He WAS a sinner .. he IS a "new man created in righteousness and true holiness" .. he WILL BE eternally a glorified man and "wholly blameless in the day of Christ." Do you see how Trinity takes time and creation into account?

skypair

 

[Windmillcharge]

The Trinity can be explained as the image of God mirrored in each (one) man. As the Father is to God, the soul is to man .. as the Holy Ghost is to God, the "inward man" (soul + spirit) is to man. As the Son is to God, the body is to man. Now these 3 are said to be "Persons" because they go through changes wherein they are different in body and will. The Father in heaven made Himself the Holy Ghost (Word/Spirit + Light/Son), the pre-incarnate Son in order to create all that exists in the physical realm. Then the Holy Ghost "made Himself" into the Son begetting the Son by the Spirit.

Explain no, an attempt to illistrate yes.

The trinity is three independent beingings who relate to one another while also being one.
God loves and is loved by the other members of the trinity, love is somethiong God experiences.

God did not make himself or the Son or Spirit so he could create, God, in the form of the trinity has always exisited.

 

[skypair]

God did not make himself or the Son or Spirit so he could create, God, in the form of the trinity has always exisited.

Actually, Father to Holy Ghost is "self-separation." Holy Ghost to Jesus is begotten. And yes, in this way, all 3 were eternally existent in One. Phil 2:6-8 does use the term "made Himself" in speaking of the Holy Ghost of the Son making Himself into the image of man .. but it is through the conceiving of the Son in the womb of Mary.

Thanks for your input, though.

skypair

 

[Windmillcharge]

Actually, Father to Holy Ghost is "self-separation." Holy Ghost to Jesus is begotten. And yes, in this way, all 3 were eternally existent in One. Phil 2:6-8 does use the term "made Himself" in speaking of the Holy Ghost of the Son making Himself into the image of man .. but it is through the conceiving of the Son in the womb of Mary.

Thanks for your input, though.

skypair

There is a rather large difference in talking about the eternal existence of Jesus and talking about his becoming man, which is what phil 2? 6-8 is talking about.

 

[skypair]

There is a rather large difference in talking about the eternal existence of Jesus and talking about his becoming man, which is what phil 2? 6-8 is talking about.

Right, it's the difference between the "Immanent Trinity"/Classical Trinitarian view and the "Economic Trinity"/Relational Trinitarian view of the Trinity. The former sees God in heaven and eternity (1Jn 5:7) and the latter sees God in time and at work in the world.

skypair

 

[Windmillcharge]

Right, it's the difference between the "Immanent Trinity"/Classical Trinitarian view and the "Economic Trinity"/Relational Trinitarian view of the Trinity. The former sees God in heaven and eternity (1Jn 5:7) and the latter sees God in time and at work in the world.

skypair

Now you've lost me
will read up on those.