Trump and Politics

[Ziggy]

FISA expires tonight at midnight.
FISA was born when the Patriot Act was passed to be able to surveil international threats.
However, we have found and do know that FISA has also been used to surveil American Citizens.
FISA was used against citizen Donald Trump in 2015 during his campaign.
See The Steele Dossier and Perkins Coie Opposition Research.
I'm sure it was most likely used under the Bush Admin as well.
Because somebody flew a plane into a building.
Manufactured Crisis.
Never let a good crisis go to waste.

The Patriot Act itself did not create a single “Patriots” list, but it expanded the legal authority for U.S. agencies to maintain and use government watch lists that could include individuals and groups suspected or confirmed of terrorist activity. These lists are maintained by multiple federal agencies — most notably the Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC), the State Department’s Terrorist Exclusion List (TEL), and the Commerce Department’s Denied Persons List

Then we got the TSA to body search and invade peoples personal space.

I am not a fan of any Government intruding into the lives of their citizens unless they have evidence that they have committed a crime.
I found it amazing how fast the government was prepared to have written, researched, had hearings? passed through committees, and voted on the floor, right after 9/11.
Almost as if it was anticipated.
Just saying.

Congress has left the building until next week sometime.
So unless they call in a special session today FISA will expire at midnight.

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[The Barbarian]

Trump said he loves the inflation because it is a little above the normal rate which is anticipated to come down after this thing in Iran.
The inflation on gasoline we are seeing now is caused by speculators who control the market price. It has nothing to do with the growth of our country.

Has to do with the closing of the straits of Hormuz. Even republicans like Greene are castigating him for starting a war that damaged normal Americans.

 

[The Barbarian]

The Patriot Act itself did not create a single “Patriots” list, but it expanded the legal authority for U.S. agencies to maintain and use government watch lists that could include individuals and groups suspected or confirmed of terrorist activity. These lists are maintained by multiple federal agencies — most notably the Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC), the State Department’s Terrorist Exclusion List (TEL), and the Commerce Department’s Denied Persons List

Then we got the TSA to body search and invade peoples personal space.

I am not a fan of any Government intruding into the lives of their citizens unless they have evidence that they have committed a crime.
I found it amazing how fast the government was prepared to have written, researched, had hearings? passed through committees, and voted on the floor, right after 9/11.
Almost as if it was anticipated.
Just saying.

Trump, through legislative channels, has called for an 18-month extension of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA)

 

[Ziggy]

Trump, through legislative channels, has called for an 18-month extension of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA)

Back in April there was a 45 day extension.
And only congress can pass an extension, which they did at that time and Trump signed it.
Like I said, Congress has left the building and unless they come in today to pass another extension, it will expire at midnight.

 

[Ziggy]

I watched the Senate yesterday and the Bill didn't pass.
And if it ends up going by the wayside, I will not cry about it.
Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

I don't think a lot of people understand the actual strategy.
We don't want Government intrusion in America Citizens lives.
The Federal Governments purpose according to Article 2 of the Constitution is to protect our borders, navigate international trade, and provide for the safety of our Country.
It has no Constitutional right become a Nanny State.
Article 1 of the Constitution which is the Legislative not the Executive Branch

Sections 4–10: Additional Provisions​

• Section 4: Regulates the elections and meetings of Congress.
• Section 5: Grants each house authority to determine its rules, punish members, and maintain a quorum.
• Section 6: Provides compensation and privileges for members.
• Section 7: Details the process for passing bills, including presidential vetoes.
• Section 8: Enumerates specific powers of Congress, such as taxation, commerce regulation, and declaring war.
• Section 9: Limits Congress from certain actions, like suspending habeas corpus or taxing exports.
• Section 10: Restricts states from exercising powers reserved to the federal government

So lets say the Government has become too big for it's britches, and people for DECADES have been complaining about Government overreach of We the People.
We all remember the famous chant back in 2020: No Justice No Peace!
The rage was a bout a bias and unfair judiciary system that targeted and prosecuted based on racial preference.
Then it became prosecution against religions.
The SCOTUS is an Illegitimate court only when the verdict has come down on the opposite party.

So how do you remove certain corrupted elements from the government that MOST RATIONAL people believe should be removed?
There is this thing called Reverse Psychology.
You want something gone and knowing that the opposition wants to keep it and they will do ANYTHING to go against you,
You push for the very thing you want to eliminate.

Have you heard of Devolution?
the transfer or delegation of power to a lower level, especially by central government to local or regional administration:

We have some really hard core Big Government cronies that just don't want to let go of that power.
And that goes on both sides. They live for the establishment and not the people.

And every time Trump wants to remove the power from the government and give it back to the people, he runs into opposition every time.

And you always hear them cry It's Unconstitutional!! And yet, if you READ the Constitution nothing Trump has done or signed has crossed that line.

Both sides make up all kinds of stuff because they don't want to lose their power over the people.
It is the States themselves that should provide for their own constituents.

I know people hate Trump, they have to. They been told to. Because they think that those who are in power are doing good things for the people. When in REALITY they are the slave owners controlling the masses.

Let's give the people a tax break so they can spend their own money. NO!!!
Let's take personal choice out of the governments hands and give it back to the people. NO!!!!
Let's close the borders to protect citizens from invasions from other countries. NO!!!

If it was any other President, under any other name, most reasonable people would believe these things are good for the citizens.


There is a video I have posted multiple times to show what the Trump Administration is trying to do through what we call Devolution.
But you won't listen, you can't hear it, because your Hate keeps you from seeing the objective.

If you want to know what MAGA stands for, instead of listening to the MSM talking heads who hate and oppose everything Trump,
then simply listen to who we are and what we stand for. And what we voted for.
We didn't just vote for the man, we voted for the movement.
Big Pharma, Big Agri, Big Banks, Government overreach, And the failure of our justice system to treat everyone unbiased and fair under the law.
What does being American mean to you?
And frankly, if you really HATE this country, you can leave.

Hugs

 

[ScottA]

President Donald Trump’s job approval rating has sunk to a new low as Americans express growing concerns about rising costs and the war with Iran, according to an NBC News Decision Desk Poll powered by SurveyMonkey.

Overall, 37% of adults approve of Trump’s performance as president, while 63% disapprove — including 50% who said they disapprove strongly — putting his job rating at the lowest point of his second term in NBC News Decision Desk polling. Two-thirds of respondents also disapproved of Trump’s handling of inflation and the Iran conflict.

Poll: Trump's approval rating hits second-term low as Americans sour on the economy and Iran war

Two-thirds of Americans disapprove of Trump’s handling of inflation, according to an NBC News Decision Desk Poll, with some cracks emerging in his GOP support.

www.nbcnews.com

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Fake in (poll) fake out. Big WHOOP

 

[Ziggy]

So far, they've had a pretty good record. Judging by the election results recently, they've been pretty accurate.

It's a long ways between now and November. Just sayin.
Hugs

 

[ScottA]

I don't think a lot of people understand the actual strategy.
We don't want Government intrusion in America Citizens lives.
The Federal Governments purpose according to Article 2 of the Constitution is to protect our borders, navigate international trade, and provide for the safety of our Country.
It has no Constitutional right become a Nanny State.
Article 1 of the Constitution which is the Legislative not the Executive Branch

Sections 4–10: Additional Provisions​

• Section 4: Regulates the elections and meetings of Congress.
• Section 5: Grants each house authority to determine its rules, punish members, and maintain a quorum.
• Section 6: Provides compensation and privileges for members.
• Section 7: Details the process for passing bills, including presidential vetoes.
• Section 8: Enumerates specific powers of Congress, such as taxation, commerce regulation, and declaring war.
• Section 9: Limits Congress from certain actions, like suspending habeas corpus or taxing exports.
• Section 10: Restricts states from exercising powers reserved to the federal government

So lets say the Government has become too big for it's britches, and people for DECADES have been complaining about Government overreach of We the People.
We all remember the famous chant back in 2020: No Justice No Peace!
The rage was a bout a bias and unfair judiciary system that targeted and prosecuted based on racial preference.
Then it became prosecution against religions.
The SCOTUS is an Illegitimate court only when the verdict has come down on the opposite party.

So how do you remove certain corrupted elements from the government that MOST RATIONAL people believe should be removed?
There is this thing called Reverse Psychology.
You want something gone and knowing that the opposition wants to keep it and they will do ANYTHING to go against you,
You push for the very thing you want to eliminate.

Have you heard of Devolution?
the transfer or delegation of power to a lower level, especially by central government to local or regional administration:

We have some really hard core Big Government cronies that just don't want to let go of that power.
And that goes on both sides. They live for the establishment and not the people.

And every time Trump wants to remove the power from the government and give it back to the people, he runs into opposition every time.

And you always hear them cry It's Unconstitutional!! And yet, if you READ the Constitution nothing Trump has done or signed has crossed that line.

Both sides make up all kinds of stuff because they don't want to lose their power over the people.
It is the States themselves that should provide for their own constituents.

I know people hate Trump, they have to. They been told to. Because they think that those who are in power are doing good things for the people. When in REALITY they are the slave owners controlling the masses.

Let's give the people a tax break so they can spend their own money. NO!!!
Let's take personal choice out of the governments hands and give it back to the people. NO!!!!
Let's close the borders to protect citizens from invasions from other countries. NO!!!

If it was any other President, under any other name, most reasonable people would believe these things are good for the citizens.


There is a video I have posted multiple times to show what the Trump Administration is trying to do through what we call Devolution.
But you won't listen, you can't hear it, because your Hate keeps you from seeing the objective.

If you want to know what MAGA stands for, instead of listening to the MSM talking heads who hate and oppose everything Trump,
then simply listen to who we are and what we stand for. And what we voted for.
We didn't just vote for the man, we voted for the movement.
Big Pharma, Big Agri, Big Banks, Government overreach, And the failure of our justice system to treat everyone unbiased and fair under the law.
What does being American mean to you?
And frankly, if you really HATE this country, you can leave.

Hugs

Unfortunately you are speaking to a barbarian.

 

[Ziggy]

Unfortunately you are speaking to a barbarian.

I think even barbarians oppose central government overreach, unless they are part of the system.
Please visit the Concerned Citizen thread under current news forum.
Something is weird and I don't know what it is.
In my opinion.
Hugs

 

[The Barbarian]

It's a long ways between now and November. Just sayin.
Hugs

It's true. And Donald Trump is very good at getting out of trouble. A teflon Donald, so to speak. Maybe he can dodge consequences once again.

 

[The Barbarian]

Unfortunately you are speaking to a barbarian.

I think even barbarians oppose central government overreach, unless they are part of the system.

You are correct. Barbarians are, by their nature, opposed to government overreach. The first thing that will need to be cleaned up is the weaponization of the federal government that occurred in this administration. For those of you on the right, the alternative is not the democrats, it's libertarians. You don't have to hitch your hopes to a criminal; if you really despise government overreach, we'd be happy to see you join us.

BTW, there are leftists who are open to limited government as well. If there are any of you listening, we'd be happy to have you join us, too.

 

[The Barbarian]

I watched the Senate yesterday and the Bill didn't pass.
And if it ends up going by the wayside, I will not cry about it.
Hugs

We have common ground here. Maybe more than you think. Consider that there are alternatives to democrats and republicans.

 

[Triumph1300]

Only clowns say that. Normally midterms bring the opposite party in power.. Nothing new. vanity, vanity.

Mind boggling that someone claiming to be a theologian is in support of this evil administration.
I never knew that theologians are warmongers.
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[TLHKAJ]

It's true. And Donald Trump is very good at getting out of trouble. A teflon Donald, so to speak. Maybe he can dodge consequences once again.

He may be lawless in this life, but won't escape God's judgment.

 

[TLHKAJ]

You are correct. Barbarians are, by their nature, opposed to government overreach. The first thing that will need to be cleaned up is the weaponization of the federal government that occurred in this administration. For those of you on the right, the alternative is not the democrats, it's libertarians. You don't have to hitch your hopes to a criminal; if you really despise government overreach, we'd be happy to see you join us.

BTW, there are leftists who are open to limited government as well. If there are any of you listening, we'd be happy to have you join us, too.

Just curious. Why exactly do you call yourself a leftist? My mind thinks ... abortion, LGBTQ promotion, etc. But I'm speaking as someone who doesn't affiliate with a political party. I choose to align with scripture rather than a party or person. Help me understand the affiliation and what it means for you, please.

 

[Ziggy]

We have common ground here. Maybe more than you think. Consider that there are alternatives to democrats and republicans.

Well some us call ourselves MAGA.
We are not Republican or Democrat, we are Americans who love this country.
It's funny though when you really think about it.
Maga is a little of both.
We are not warmongers or big corporate idealists.
We do care about the little guy who isn't getting paid their fair wages.
We just want the government out of our businesses and out of our bedrooms.

Hugs

 

[The Barbarian]

Just curious. Why exactly do you call yourself a leftist?

Left libertarian, actually. There are at least 2 axes of political orientation. On a left/right freedom/government scale, I'm here:

The Political Compass

self-test of your position on 2 political dimensions

www.politicalcompass.org

My mind thinks ... abortion, LGBTQ promotion, etc. But I'm speaking as someone who doesn't affiliate with a political party. I choose to align with scripture rather than a party or person. Help me understand the affiliation and what it means for you, please.

Try the test. I figure that people should be free to do as they like, so long as they don't impose on others. I oppose abortion or other taking of human life except where greater harm would result by preventing such.

We are not Republican or Democrat, we are Americans who love this country.

As a veteran, I will never respect a president who referred to us as "suckers" and "losers." And yes, I'm concluding that Gen. Kelly is far more believable than Donald Trump. For the obvious reasons.

 

[The Barbarian]

Support for Donald Trump has significantly eroded among independent voters during his second term, particularly among those without a college degree, according to a new analysis by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

This shift has effectively eliminated the education gap that previously existed among independents, who now largely share negative views of Trump regardless of their academic background.
...
Positive views of Trump among independents without a college degree plummeted from 48% in the months preceding his return to office to 31% during his first 100 days.

These favorable opinions continued to decline, reaching approximately one-quarter during the government shutdown and into early 2026.

In contrast, only about 3 in 10 college-educated independents had a positive view of Trump before he returned to office, making their subsequent drop to roughly one-quarter far less pronounced.

"The decline among no-college independents was steeper and it was greater than the slight decline in college independents," noted Sean Collins, a research associate at NORC and co-author of the analysis.

Trump support among Independents collapses in second term, new poll shows - AOL

This shift has effectively eliminated the education gap that previously existed among independents, who now largely share negative views of Trump regardless of their academic background

www.aol.com

 

[Ziggy]

Boom!
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