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ProDeo

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You should stop. You're joining the anti-America ,anti-Trump crowd here ,which is sorry enough. However,you don't know what you're talking about at all. So,stop.

Last time I checked this forum is not a GOP forum.

What you're doing is a sin.

Sure, make it personal, why not.

Lack of counter arguments, as usual.
 

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Not withstanding, our God is a warrior. PERIOD.

Of all Scripture you have put 2 Samuel 22:35 in your signature.

He trains my hands for war. 2 Samuel 22:35 (REV)

So you are warrior yourself, aren't you ?
 

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And whatever you do dont run to the nar realm , to the RCC and etc .
THEY do not care for the people . They care for themselves .
As ol paula hollers , SEND ME Eighty eighty twenty four for a pslam blessing .
And you folks sit under that . PLEASE them wolves in wool .
And before one decides to run to the RCC
WHERE ON earth do you think this big move came from to begin with
concering the ecumeincal selL OUT of THE GOPSEL . FROM that house .
THEY do not care for you , for me
ITs all about merging the largest religoin ever seen , AND BELEIVE ME
THEY GONNA BANK BIG over all of that . Its money .
The love of money been and always been the root of all evil . TIS WHY they always changing with the times
TO KEEP the cash COW growing . And folks thought they were christain that loved JESUS and the people.
THEY might fool yall , But not this sheep .
SO hear these next words well . I WILL expose every last one of them no matter how much
those i am trying to do good for , see me as a hater . I aint in it to have a following and big crowd .
I am in it for the sakes of the peoples and for all GLORY to GO TO GOD and CHRIST .
SO yalls new world order of this ecumeincal whore
can decide what to do with men like me in time . cause i dont fear a one of them . JESUS has me . TO LIVE is CHRIST
TO DIE is only GAIN . now you know what you have on your hands .
A man willing to die rather than compromise a word of GOD . so you deal with that .
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Marvelloustime

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you believe this .
Well have you ever wondered who pays the bill
anytime one of these so called liberal led or conservative led ones
decides to do such a thing .
A HINT , not the leaders , the PEOPLE SUFFER . and they dont give a rip .
This is more than meets the eye my friend .
THE WORLD agenda will starve all into SUBMISSION . The only problem is
You have no id ea that TRUMP actually does ITS WILL as well .
Take a good long look at Harris , at Obama , at Hillery , at Trump ,
And take a seat . They dont give a rip about us . GOD does . time
to return to HIM and let us put all our hope and trust in HE and HIS CHRIST .
These govts dont give a rip . ITS all about not just a agenda , BUT THE AGENDA .
Cursed is the man whose hope be in men .
Blessed be the man whose hope be IN THE LORD .
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Of all Scripture you have put 2 Samuel 22:35 in your signature.

He trains my hands for war. 2 Samuel 22:35 (REV)

So you are warrior yourself, aren't you ?
Yes. We are made in the image of God, aren't we? I have more than 2 Samuel 22:35 (REV) in my signature; I have Ex 15:3. YHWH is a warrior.

Again, I ask. We are made in the image of God, aren't we?

Not only are we made in the likeness of a warrior, the LORD of Heaven's Armies trains our hands for war.
 
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Don't you realize that Scripture makes appeals to individual action? You shall not covet your neighbors things is not equal to government seeking needed resources for its survival.

Ex 20:17 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male servant, or his female servant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor's.”

I understand Ex 20:17 as : let alone that you covet countries that are not yours.

A child understands when you tell him it's wrong to pinch the cat, he also understand it is wrong to the kick the dog.

But you apparently don't ?
 
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Yes. We are made in the image of God, aren't we? I have more than 2 Samuel 22:35 (REV) in my signature; I have Ex 15:3. YHWH is a warrior.

Again, I ask. We are made in the image of God, aren't we?

Not only are we made in the likeness of a warrior, the LORD of Heaven's Armies trains our hands for war.

And you were quoting out of context again.

2Sam 22:35 He trains my hands for war, so that my arms can bend a bow of bronze.

Go back to verse 1.

2Sam 22:1 And David spoke to the LORD the words of this song on the day when the LORD delivered him from the hand of all his enemies, and from the hand of Saul.

Israel was not allowed to start wars, only God ordered wars. Every time Israel acted without the approval of God it was punished. A fixed pattern through the whole OT.

Notice, even David's pride counting his military might was severely punished, you can read the story in 1 Chronicles 21.

This should be our spiritual understanding if you want include Scripture in this earthly talk about politics.

Trump (or anyone else) bragging of military might is like David in 1 Chronicles 21.

Are you sure you want to discuss Scripture in this thread?
 
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You are so "moral" that you'll embrace suicide.

What ?!

Aside that you make things personal now, I don't follow your logic.

While abdicating ANY moral virtue whatsoever, you'll call it morally superior for survival is the ultimate moral standard. Read and understand your Bible.

Read your Bible and focus on God's character.
 

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To hell with Cuba. They need to fix their pathetic little country and give up the communism already. Its 2026. Who's still all about communism? :jest:
Did you just say WHO is still all about communism .
Go to and behold this digital chain
this so called inclusive love
This so called freedom they cliam , however its not the plan at all my friend .
Satan has gathered such kings and men
whose desire was for to sit over this world .
And has used them to build his own empire . And by means of
deception , as means of we do this for you humanity
THEY enslave them all and lead and are leading them to the final solution .
Now in the eyes of the lost they will see this solution
as the Plan of GOD , OF HIS LOVE , OF HIS WORLD PEACE
and will beleive they do the will of GOD .
Only it be the devil himself . Watch out cause his ecumencial harlot
knows how to pour her blend of love unto any camp she do enter .
The love of a harlot killeth
Always remember that . no matter how sweet it seemed , no matter how she allured
She is diseased and all who partake of her cup have swallowed down death and decay and know it not .
 

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And you were quoting out of context again.
Quoting out of context? LOL Read the whole Bible. More context doesn't change the point. I quoted only what was needed to make the point. We are made in God' image and God is a warrior. Why do you oppose this basic truth?
 
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Israel was not allowed to start wars
They most certainly were allowed to start wars. Read about the Conquest of Canaan.

only God ordered wars

You forgot to add how this means Israel initiated war. Initiating war at God's command changes nothing regarding the point under discussion, which is :
  1. God is a warrior,
  2. we are made in God's image
  3. God trains our hands for war.
Are you sure you want to discuss Scripture in this thread?
Yes, I'm sure I want to discuss Scripture in this thread. Where there is freedom, there is the Spirit of the Lord. 2 Corinthians 3:17.
 
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Wrangler

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I don't follow your logic.
Therein lies the problem. You are among the many Christians who are overly spiritualized, embrace hyper-grace and abandon justice. Not grasping these principles, the logic escapes you. Let me start again.

Survival is the ultimate moral standard. You can't be a moral creature if you aren't alive. Understand? (Please answer, "yes" or "no.")
 
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The problem with this people is they trust in man , in politics , even believing these politicans are for america
and or f or the world .
THEY AINT .
THEY ALL IN the same camp folks . THEY DO as they do for an agenda .
And while one side promises nationalism and the other side promises world as one
THEY BOTH do the same agenda .
And ps , ITS NOT FOR HUMANITY . we all are being deceived . TIME to get in to the bible and TO TRUST IN GOD , IN HIS CHRIST
in HIS WORDS , HIS gospel . cause ya churches , yoo hoo , ON bOTH SIDES
have and are all being decieved .
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Quoting out of context? LOL Read the whole Bible. More context doesn't change the point. I quoted only what was needed to make the point. We are made in God' image and God is a warrior. Why do you oppose this basic truth?
By this twisted logic, if we're in a famine situation, you believe you have the right to attack and kill your neighbor and take their food so you can survive?

This is pretty sick. But these are the "Christians" who will turn us in who don't worship the Antichrist.
 

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By this twisted logic, if we're in a famine situation, you believe you have the right to attack and kill your neighbor and take their food so you can survive?
There is nothing twisted about it! It is the condition of all life on Earth, fighting each day for survival.

You’re just so detached from this reality it seems foreign and beneath you.
 
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By this twisted logic, if we're in a famine situation, you believe you have the right to attack and kill your neighbor and take their food so you can survive?

This is pretty sick. But these are the "Christians" who will turn us in who don't worship the Antichrist.
and what many dont realize is
IS
that more and more now follow that which is of anti christ and leads to ANTI CHRIST .
they think its love and of GOD .
They gonna do just as they have always done .
And what is that .
RUN to the best man that can give them what they BELEIVED was best for them .
What is was they desired to hear .
HEY , when folks put their hopes into men , what on earth did one expect .
SO allow me some parting words .
GET ALL out of any connection to politics , no matter what side it stands on .
Get all out of anything ecumenical . cause oh yes even the religious can DECIEVE .
Get them INTO BIBLE
For to learn for oneself .
I am gonna bring you a video i found .
Remember when i warned us many many years ago
that as soon as the ecumeinal phase has run its course that the crusades would begin .
Remember when ol nut bag amigo , had to say that cause most think i am that ,
warned us that there are many who follow a love of the world and yet beleive it to be the LOVE of GOD .
Remember when , OL HATER AMIGO , again i had to say that cause most see me as that ,
warned us that any kind of unity that would even dare to omit a word of truth for sake of said unity
IS NO UNITY FOR US . WELL FOLKS should have heeded this wee thing .
SOON all will hear the cry of this solution . OH YEAH i been warning about that too .
And no matter if they were muslim , hindu , at heiset , wican , or any denomination of christendom
as well as unbelieving jews , THEY GONNA HEED IT sister . THEY GONNA HEED IT as one mind and one people .
But again when we trust in m an , OH WE GOING DOWN sister .
I will go and search for the video again and send it .
 
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