Trump has abandoned America First

[rebuilder 454]

"Order" out of chaos ...

Do you support kamala, democrat platform comunism, and sheria law?

 

[bdavidc]

I'm surprised the American public voted Mr Trump in. My evaluation of the man right from the outset was and is that he is untruthful.
That said, I'm not really that surprised. The 'diet' fed Americans and exported to the rest of the world is one of showmanship. In other words, a front to conceal truth.

The bigger issue is not personality, it is platforms. The other choice was a party that openly pushes what God calls sin in our face. They defend killing unborn babies ~Exodus 20:13, redefine gender and marriage against Scripture ~Genesis 1:27; ~Romans 1:26–27, promote confusion instead of order ~1 Corinthians 14:33, corrupt children, silence Christians ~Acts 5:29, and celebrate what God says leads to judgment ~Isaiah 5:20; ~Luke 13:3.

And, they also opened the border without vetting, allowing criminals, drug traffickers, and dangerous people to enter without accountability. Scripture is clear that leaders are supposed to punish evil and protect the innocent ~Romans 13:3–4. When a government refuses to do that, it is not acting under God’s design for authority.

This is not about politics for me. It is about truth. I am honestly sad that anyone who claims to follow Jesus would support a platform that mocks His Word and undermines justice. You cannot serve God and stand with open rebellion. Personality issues do not excuse supporting what God condemns.

 

[Triumph1300]

Muslims, liberal God haters, and kamala worshippers agree and applaud you.

Looks like Miami voters defeated the Trump endorsed mayor candidate.
Smart move.
More Republicans crossing over to the Democratic Party.
And it has nothing to do with running towards socialism.
It has everything to do with the fact they are fed up with a bunch of liars and and a bully.

 

[ProDeo]

Warning signs about cults, but also to be applied towards political leaders:
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Rule-1. The leader is always right.

Addition :

2. In the hypothetical case the leader is not right, Rule-1 automatically applies.

 

[ProDeo]

I think the US will eventually leave NATO regardless of what Europe does or doesn't do.

Yep.

China is the new target.

 

[Triumph1300]

Do you support kamala, democrat platform comunism, and sheria law?

Most people have no idea what sheria law means.

Here is a result after I googled it.
(Of course this does not mean I support sheria law.)

Core Concepts & Sources

• Divine Origin: Believed to be God's immutable law, expressed through the Quran and Sunnah (Prophet's actions/sayings).
• Scope: Regulates all aspects of life, from prayer and charity (ibadah) to family, business, and criminal matters (mu'amalat).
• Fiqh: The human interpretation and jurisprudence of Sharia, leading to diverse schools of thought (madhhabs).

Key Areas Governed by Sharia

• Family Law: Marriage contracts (mahr), divorce, child custody, and inheritance rights (e.g., females inheriting less, but with financial responsibilities on males).
• Finance: Prohibits interest (riba), promoting risk-sharing models like Islamic banking and partnerships.
• Ethics & Morality: Defines permissible (halal) and forbidden (haram) acts, guiding daily conduct, diet, and behavior.
• Criminal Law: Includes punishments (hudud) for certain crimes, like theft or adultery, though application varies greatly.

Application in the Modern World

• Varying Implementation: Some Muslim-majority countries integrate Sharia into state law (especially for personal status), while others use secular systems.
• Debate & Misconceptions: In the West, Sharia is often debated, with concerns about its application in courts or its perceived conflict with secular laws, though many Muslims use it only for spiritual guidance, not as a replacement for national law.
• Moderate vs. Strict Interpretations: Interpretations range from moderate, focusing on ethics and family, to stricter versions that emphasize harsh penalties, creating significant differences in practice.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Looks like Miami voters defeated the Trump endorsed mayor candidate.
Smart move.
More Republicans crossing over to the Democratic Party.
And it has nothing to do with running towards socialism.
It has everything to do with the fact they are fed up with a bunch of liars and and a bully.

Yeah now they can get the Democrat communist manifesto going and be on their way to become great like all communism leads to.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Most people have no idea what sheria law means.

Here is a result after I googled it:

Core Concepts & Sources

• Divine Origin: Believed to be God's immutable law, expressed through the Quran and Sunnah (Prophet's actions/sayings).
• Scope: Regulates all aspects of life, from prayer and charity (ibadah) to family, business, and criminal matters (mu'amalat).
• Fiqh: The human interpretation and jurisprudence of Sharia, leading to diverse schools of thought (madhhabs).

Key Areas Governed by Sharia

• Family Law: Marriage contracts (mahr), divorce, child custody, and inheritance rights (e.g., females inheriting less, but with financial responsibilities on males).
• Finance: Prohibits interest (riba), promoting risk-sharing models like Islamic banking and partnerships.
• Ethics & Morality: Defines permissible (halal) and forbidden (haram) acts, guiding daily conduct, diet, and behavior.
• Criminal Law: Includes punishments (hudud) for certain crimes, like theft or adultery, though application varies greatly.

Application in the Modern World

• Varying Implementation: Some Muslim-majority countries integrate Sharia into state law (especially for personal status), while others use secular systems.
• Debate & Misconceptions: In the West, Sharia is often debated, with concerns about its application in courts or its perceived conflict with secular laws, though many Muslims use it only for spiritual guidance, not as a replacement for national law.
• Moderate vs. Strict Interpretations: Interpretations range from moderate, focusing on ethics and family, to stricter versions that emphasize harsh penalties, creating significant differences in practice.

Hard to believe you promote such darkness.

 

[Triumph1300]

Hard to believe you promote such darkness.

I expected a dumb and stupid comment.
I thought you were smarter, Rebuilder.
I did make my comment at the top of that post.
But go ahead and be whatever you are.

 

[rebuilder 454]

I expected a dumb and stupid comment.
I thought you were smarter, Rebuilder.
I did make my comment at the top, but go ahead and be whatever you are.

Playing games.
Go play

 

[Triumph1300]

Playing games.

Don't play games if you can't afford to lose,454
Read posts before you post knee jerk reactions.

 

[ProDeo]

I think the US will eventually leave NATO regardless of what Europe does or doesn't do.

Addition to what I said earlier, Europe should be thankful Trump pushing NATO contribution to 5% GDP. Say Europe will manage able to defend itself (I have to see it, before I believe it) then in the end Trump has created a new military power and rival.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Don't play games if you can't afford to lose,454
Read posts before you post knee jerk reactions.

Pot <> kettle.
Get in the winning side.
Your side is losing amoung patriots.
Your side is the pink hair radical robots.
America haters and God haters.

...but you claim high ground.
Pfffffft

 

[Triumph1300]

Addition to what I said earlier, Europe should be thankful Trump pushing NATO contribution to 5% GDP. Say Europe will manage able to defend itself (I have to see it, before I believe it) then in the end Trump has created a new military power and rival.

Last time I was involved with anything NATO related, there was a small problem: Buying diesel or gas did not go well for the equipment of the members. The filler nozzles did not match equipment of several countries. It caused a bit of a hassle when running out of supplies. My guess is: hopefully it is all standard now.

 

[Triumph1300]

Trump has created a new military power and rival.

Next involvement: Taiwan.
The wars he solved are still going on.
Thailand still fighting. So is Israel and Ukraine.
Must be frustrating for the guy.
Plus he is pushing a long line of nations into China's camp.

 

[Riven]

Yeah now they can get the Democrat communist manifesto going and be on their way to become great like all communism leads to.

This is exactly the wrong response. You should ask yourself why Cubans, who traditionally vote right, decided to vote left. Hint: The republicans haven't delivered.

Addition to what I said earlier, Europe should be thankful Trump pushing NATO contribution to 5% GDP. Say Europe will manage able to defend itself (I have to see it, before I believe it) then in the end Trump has created a new military power and rival.

It isn't being done to make Europe stronger. The US doesn't want a strong Europe that can challenge it's influence. It's being done because the US is beginning to realize that it's strategic interests in East Asia outweigh those in Europe, and funding NATO is becoming increasingly unsustainable economically.

 

[quietthinker]

The bigger issue is not personality, it is platforms. The other choice was a party that openly pushes what God calls sin in our face. They defend killing unborn babies ~Exodus 20:13, redefine gender and marriage against Scripture ~Genesis 1:27; ~Romans 1:26–27, promote confusion instead of order ~1 Corinthians 14:33, corrupt children, silence Christians ~Acts 5:29, and celebrate what God says leads to judgment ~Isaiah 5:20; ~Luke 13:3.

And, they also opened the border without vetting, allowing criminals, drug traffickers, and dangerous people to enter without accountability. Scripture is clear that leaders are supposed to punish evil and protect the innocent ~Romans 13:3–4. When a government refuses to do that, it is not acting under God’s design for authority.

This is not about politics for me. It is about truth. I am honestly sad that anyone who claims to follow Jesus would support a platform that mocks His Word and undermines justice. You cannot serve God and stand with open rebellion. Personality issues do not excuse supporting what God condemns.

I guess the drum being beaten is as old as the hills ie, I am right and they are wrong, let me show you the evidence....and then it is cherry picked and justified by appealing to scripture or some other 'authority'.

This process does several things; it underpins the kingdoms of men; it allows one to justify, judge and condemn and it shrinks ones ability to understand scripture in context. In short, it does what any oppressive system does to elevate its view.

 

[Triumph1300]

Donald Trump casually announced that the United States had seized a “very large” oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, "the largest ever."

And so it starts.
Stealing oil.

 

[bdavidc]

I guess the drum being beaten is as old as the hills ie, I am right and they are wrong, let me show you the evidence....and then it is cherry picked and justified by appealing to scripture or some other 'authority'.

This process does several things; it underpins the kingdoms of men; it allows one to justify, judge and condemn and it shrinks ones ability to understand scripture in context. In short, it does what any oppressive system does to elevate its view.

You accused me of beating an old drum of “I am right and they are wrong.” That is not what is happening. I am pointing to what God has already called right and wrong. Scripture is not my opinion. “Let God be true, but every man a liar” ~Romans 3:4. When the Word speaks, the debate is over.

You said I cherry pick. Point to one verse I used that was taken out of context. You will not, because you cannot. You made the accusation without dealing with a single passage. That tells me the problem is not selective verses, it is selective obedience.

You said I appeal to some “authority.” Yes, I appeal to the only authority God gives us, His Word. “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God” ~2 Timothy 3:16. If you dismiss Scripture as a biased authority, you are not arguing with me, you are arguing with the Lord Himself.

You said this process “underpins the kingdoms of men.” No. Calling sin what God calls sin is the exact opposite. It exposes the kingdoms of men. “Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them” ~Ephesians 5:11. That is not oppression. That is obedience.

You claim it “shrinks the ability to understand Scripture.” Scripture interprets Scripture. What shrinks understanding is treating the Bible like a flexible story that changes with our preferences. “Add not unto His words, lest He reprove thee” ~Proverbs 30:6.

So yes, I answered your accusations. The real issue here is simple. You want a version of Christianity that never confronts sin. Scripture refuses to give you that version. I am not elevating myself. I am submitting to what God has said.

If you want to disagree, then deal with the verses directly. Otherwise, you are not debating me, you are resisting the authority of God’s Word.

 

[quietthinker]

So yes, I answered your accusations. The real issue here is simple. You want a version of Christianity that never confronts sin. Scripture refuses to give you that version. I am not elevating myself. I am submitting to what God has said.

It is your interpretations of the scripture you are justifying. It is your interpretations I am questioning.
You are conflating your interpretations with the scriptures working from the premise that your views of the scriptures are infallible/ inerrant.

If sin is abhorrent to you...then don't sin by your conflagration.