Your obsession and veneration is in the wrong place.
Jesus is the Messiah of Christians. He is the one they adore and worship. He is the one they live for.
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Your obsession and veneration is in the wrong place.
Jesus is the Messiah of Christians. He is the one they adore and worship. He is the one they live for.
1 John 2
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father...
Someone other than Yahweh.
Wrangler
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Who would be powerful enough to stop the UN, which is arrayed against Israel and trying to get rid of Israel to the max, if not Yahweh? Only someone as powerful as Yahweh could protect such a tiny nation against the globalist league of nations at the UN.
Can you answer my question without another question? thanks
Individually maybe. Corporeally God is going back to dealing with Israel as a nation.
Probably too complicated for you to comprehend…but for others standing by…
Salvation of one’s SOUL Literally is GIVEN that soul, AFTER the BODY DIES. Thus the repetitive teaching that some…”SHALL BE SAVED”.
For 4,000 years, (OT) men HOPED they would CONTINUE in their BELIEF in God…
So WHEN their Body Died, Their soul would be SAVED.
Souls continue LIVING after the Body DIES…
For 4,000 years, BOTH departed “SAVED” Living souls AND “UNSAVED” Livings souls WENT to Hell (while their Dead Body) returned to dust.
IN Hell the SAVED livings souls were IN Comfort With father Abraham.
Separating THEM FROM the UNSAVED living souls was a GREAT GULF.
The UNSAVED living souls were (and continue to this day) IN Duress.
From the day, (some 2,000 years ago) when Jesus’ Body died, His Departed Living soul, Went to the Comfort Side of Hell, and then returned to His BODY.
(Since Jesus is FIRST in all things)…ONCE Jesus’ Living soul Left Hell,so also could SAVED Living souls LEAVE Hell, and Return FROM whence they came……HEAVEN.
When a body DIES, it’s LIVING SOUL Departs it’s BODY…
FOR BELIEVERS, THEN is the PROMISE of GOD “MANIFESTED”…. THEIR SOUL RESTORED (SAVED), and ESCORTED by Angels TO Heaven.
An EXAMPLE of departed SAVED Living souls, DURING Gods Great END OF DAYS Tribulations, are PEOPLE, primarily JEWS, having been BODILY KILLED, and their LIVING SOULS, “gathered together” WAITING for the REST of their Kinsmen, to also Come into BELIEF, their body’s Killed, their Departed Living souls SAVED, and TOGETHER ascend up to Heaven.
Rev 6:
[9] And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:
[10] And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
[11] And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
By, Through, Of God, His Effort, His Word, His Power, His Grace….
God OFFERED EVERY man a NEW, BETTER Testament…
Heb 7:
[22] By so much was Jesus made a surety of abetter testament.
Jesus’ Body Freely, Willingly, Given UNTO DEATH, provided the PAYMENT for Every man to ACCEPT and TAKE Gods Offering…
WHAT GOD OFFERED (according to GODS WAY) was for a BELIEVING man TO freely, willingly, GIVE HIS BODILY LIFE UNTO TO GOD, VIA, freely, willingly, becoming CRUCIFIED WITH Christ Jesus’ BODY.
THAT IS an individual EXERCISING his own FREEWILL….and ONCE a mans BODY IS Crucified with Christ Jesus’ BODY…
God FULFILLS His PROMISE, to SEARCH that mans “Natural spirit in his Heart” to SEE IF that mans EXERCISED FREEWILL IS TRUE…
“IF” that mans EXERCISED FREEWILL Election IS TRUE…
Immediately God CIRCUMCISES that mans HEART, Makes and Gives him a NEW HEART, SAVES that mans SOUL, and QUICKENS that mans SPIRIT, WITH Gods Spirit of Truth, Gods Power, Gods Seed….THOSE THINGS ENTERING that mans NEW HEART, and SETTING THEM APART (Sanctifying) THAT HIS Spirit remain WITHIN that man for the REMAINDER of his physical life….AND THEY WITH that man SET APART (Sanctified) unto HIM FOR EVER!
Heb 7
[22] By so much was Jesus made a surety of better testament.
Heb 10:
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
2 John 1:
[2] For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
Believe as you wish. God has Offered and Paid For every mans Salvation. I elected to TAKE His OFFERING, and Fully TRUST He is Faithful and Accomplished IN me what Scripture teaches is ASSURED ONCE and FOREVER.
Satan has been trying to eliminate the Jews since earth began. He wouldn't be protecting the Israeli nation and neither would any other lesser gods. Yahweh is clearly preserving Israel.
Satan protects anyone who denies the Son, and thus also denies the Father Yahweh.
You are avoiding the issue: where does it say an unregenerate man can get saved after death?
Have you STUDIED Scripture?
* OT - 4,000 years…men freely chose their Beliefs.
IF…(see the IF?) they bodily died IN Belief, their soul became MADE saved.
* NT - 2,000 years…SAME applies for SAME circumstances.
* NT - 2,000 years…NEW Offering revealed.
Belief AND “IF” (see the IF?) They CONFESSED their BELIEF, (and “IF” their Confession BE TRUE in their Heart)….
BY their CONFESSION…THEY ARE AGREEING to Lay Down their Bodily LIFE FOR God! (Called BEING CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST). THAT IS A BODILY DEATH of THAT individual GOD Himself (BY, THROUGH, OF His WORD and His POWER Offered and MAKES) Fulfilled. (Called a LIVING Sacrifice), WHICH AT the moment of a man BEING MADE Crucified WITH Christ…THAT MAN’s SOUL becomes MADE SAVED (called restored). THAT MAN RECEIVES;
A new Heart (called circumcision)
A new Seed (called Gods Seed)
A new Reborn Spirit ( called born Again)
Gods Spirit “IN” him (called the Spirit of Truth).
No mans SOUL is SAVED, UNTIL AFTER a BODILY DEATH OCCURS.
Did I ONCE say, or imply, or give ANY indication an unbelieving man’s SOUL is SAVED after his Bodily Death? NO!!
The Body, The Soul, The Spirit of A MAN, are ALL separate things, THAT MAKE-UP the WHOLE of ONE INDIVIDUAL MAN.
The Body, The Soul, The Spirit of a MAN, Naturally BEGIN Natural LIFE….
AGAINST God.
It is Gods DESIRE, For individual men TO Freely, Willingly, Hear, Learn About God, Learn WHAT He has to OFFER manKIND, and
That a man WILL Freely, Willingly, CHOOSE to BELIEVE IN the Lord God Almighty, AND Confess his BELIEF.
AND “IF” (see the “IF”?). An individual man DOES SO freely, willingly, choose to BELIEVE IN the Lord God Almighty….
God WILL MAKE him (WHOLE), body, soul, spirit…….AFTER His BODILY DEATH.
AND “IF” (see the IF?) An individual man DOES SO freely, willingly Choose to Believe AND (see the AND?) CONFESS his BELIEF, He is freely, willingly, Choosing to GIVE his bodily LIFE unto Death FOR GOD. (Called DOING WHAT JESUS DID, being Crucified, with Christ, without resistance.)
* And FOR onlookers, He can be dunked in a POOL of Water to SYMBOLIZE that man GIVING his body unto death, crucified with Christ. (And such a man WOULD THEN Be given membership, in THAT particular Church where he was water Baptized).
Sad part about ^ THAT ^…. Is numerous people ARE Water Baptized…Not Having True heartful Belief IN the Lord God Almighty.
* Many participate in THAT ritual, to satisfy another’s desire, request.
* Many participate in THAT ritual, when they do not understand what it means.
* Many participate in THAT ritual, when they are STILL unsure of WHAT they truly BELIEVE.
* Many participate in THAT ritual, Receive special Attention, feel all confident they ARE SAVED, then NOTHING in their behaviors Change, BECAUSE NOTHING in their HEARTS, (By the Power of God) was MADE Changed!
* And their poor BEHAVIOR?…no problem…
Plan, Plot, Carry out ill will Against God, Against other men….then tell the Church, and they will comfort you by telling you you are forgiven….then repeat, repeat, repeat! Pfff!
* EVEN years LATER, Some people WILL openly say, they “USED” to be a Christian, they “WERE” raised Christian, they “WERE” a member of a Christian Church, they regularly “WENT” to Church, they “WERE” Baptized, but, but, but, CHANGED their “MIND” !!!
* And that IS the Tell, Tell SIGN…
A TRUE BAPTIZED (of the Holy Spirit) Believers Confession IS FROM his TRUE BELIEF IN his HEART….NOT his MIND!
* It does NOT require an audience or water or ritual or particular building or particular clothing for an individual to Heartfully Believe IN the Lord God Almighty and Heartfully Confess his Belief and Give his bodily Life TO the Lord God and Receive Gods BAPTISM of His Holy Spirit and His RE-MAKING “WHOLE” (body, soul, spirit) that man.
1 Thes 5:
[23] And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Sanctification (set apart unto God) OF a mans WHOLE spirit, WHOLE soul, WHOLE body APPLIES to a man who Freely, Willingly, Heartfully BELIEVES AND has Heartfully GIVEN His Life unto the Lord God.
I can not Understand FOR YOU, which has NO effect on me, or my Freewill Choosing to Have Heartfully Given my own Life to the Lord God, and Have Received the WHOLE of His own Sanctification.
Glory to God,
Taken
I find your posts hard to read, evasive and your arguments confusing. I will give this a miss.
Wrangler
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I don't think this is true. Rather, we are already saved. We are already in the Father's last will and testament for us. Like all Will's, this does not mature until after death.
A friend of mine was in his mother's will after his father passed away. He was to inherit with his brothers the family home. One brother disowned the parents. In turn, the mother signed ownership of the home to her 2 loyal sons. The same with her mutual funds and checking account. By law, the 3rd son was required to be in the Will. So, she made it so there was very little for her 3 sons to inherit after death - a car and personal belongings. The rest of her assets were already given away before her death, mostly owned by 2 of her sons. This giving away, literal and intention, was established before death.
Hope this helps.
Satan is god of the Muslims and we all know how most Muslims feel about Jews and Israel soooooooo yeah
Satan is also god of the Jews who deny the Son and the Father. 1 John 2:23
If you are referring to “WE” as the Converted….that would be correct….
Their BODY is ACCOUNTED DEAD, crucified with Christ….Dead Body, Yet Alive, Converted, Have received their Souls Salvation and Quickened (born again) Spirit.
That too bad.
Yes, even WILLS have been corrupted by corrupt Governments Dictating what a Person MUST pledge their assets TO after their death.
I do believe, any offspring IS ENTITLED by Law, to Receive a portion of ANY assets the DECEASED has appointed for them, BY a WILL. (Signature Required….and Notary stamp is sufficient …. Whether or not drawn up by an attorney, or an attorney holding the original or copy thereof. )
However, I do believe, A WILL can divide their assets as THEY CHOOSE…as long as each offspring receives “something”.
Who knows how the laws whimsically changes ….to require assets to be DIVIDED “evenly” among offspring…??
May be the case today?? Totally absurd IMO.
There may be “CASES”…argued and won…
But those are NOT LAWS.
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