Trump Moving Too Fast?

[Lizbeth]

Verses about being blinded to the Truth of God on Christ from the amplified classic bible

2 Corinthians 4:4
For the god of this world has blinded the unbelievers’ minds [that they should not discern the truth], preventing them from seeing the illuminating light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ (the Messiah), Who is the Image and Likeness of God.

John 12

39 Therefore they could not believe [they were unable to believe]. For Isaiah has also said,

40 He has blinded their eyes and hardened and benumbed their [callous, degenerated] hearts [He has made their minds dull], to keep them from seeing with their eyes and understanding with their hearts and minds and repenting and turning to Me to heal them.

41 Isaiah said this because he saw His glory and spoke of Him.

Romans 11:7
What then [shall we conclude]? Israel failed to obtain what it sought [God’s favor by obedience to the Law]. Only the elect (those chosen few) obtained it, while the rest of them became callously indifferent (blinded, hardened, and made insensible to it).

1 John 2:11
But he who hates (detests, despises) his brother [in Christ] is in darkness and walking (living) in the dark; he is straying and does not perceive or know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

Yes. And yet it is the Lord who allows the god of this world to blind people. Does He allow it unjustly? I would have a hard time believing that. I have so often observed that people believe what they want to believe......because it benefits them in some way......they love themselves more than the truth.

 

[Triumph1300]

National Security Advisor and one of his deputies is ousted.
Cracks are getting bigger.
Hegseth will probably be next.
Musk went AWOL and his role in the car company is now under threat.
Just a matter of time and more to follow.
The writing is on the wall.

 

[Rockerduck]

National Security Advisor and one of his deputies is ousted.
Cracks are getting bigger.
Hegseth will probably be next.
Musk went AWOL and his role in the car company is now under threat.
Just a matter of time and more to follow.
The writing is on the wall.

But Canada is going down like the Titanic.

 

[Triumph1300]

Your guy is going full on global warming existentialism

It's a minority government.
Next election will be within a year or even sooner.
I don't expect this new Canadian government to last.

 

[Triumph1300]

But Canada is going down like the Titanic.

Sign of the times.
USA as well.
A worldwide sign of the times.
It's in your Bible, end times.
Same in Europe.
Nobody should be surprised about these issues.

 

[marks]

I don't see too many sighing and crying over the sins in the camp and in the land and calling for repentance these days, but I see many more trusting in the arm of the flesh. It's as though politics has supplanted the gospel as a means to salvation/rescue.

Come to my church, you'll get an entirely different idea. And ours is by no means the only one. In the meantime, all this presumption and generalization is unfruitful.

Like I asked you before . . . show me even ONE person who worships Trump, I don't think you can. Don't believe the hype.

Much love!

 

[Triumph1300]

show me even ONE person who worships Trump

Check out Donny Swaggert.

 

[marks]

Check out Donny Swaggert.

Don't just name drop, show him worshiping Trump. Or stop slandering folks.

 

[marks]

Almost all Canadian candidates who signed pro-Palestinian pledge lost

Only 10% of the incoming Liberal Party MPs endorsed the platform, which called for a two-way arms embargo against Israel, and Canadian recognition of a Palestinian state.

www.jpost.com

 

[shepherdsword]

Just going to throw this in here to chew on , but stuff we already know .

Looking for an American-made vehicle? How the automakers stack up

USA TODAY analyzed National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reports to determine whether any vehicles are fully made in America.

www.usatoday.com

Yeah, I was surprised to see that the Honda Ridgeline is the most American Truck.

 

[Lizbeth]

Come to my church, you'll get an entirely different idea. And ours is by no means the only one. In the meantime, all this presumption and generalization is unfruitful.

Like I asked you before . . . show me even ONE person who worships Trump, I don't think you can. Don't believe the hype.

Much love!

Idolatry is a matter of the heart and emotions, it's not like you can point to someone visibly kneeling and bowing to a statue, but it can be discerned.

 

[marks]

Idolatry is a matter of the heart and emotions, it's not like you can point to someone visibly kneeling and bowing to a statue, but it can be discerned.

Right.

So you watch some videos, you see someone's enthusiasm, their support of good things happening, and voila, it's worship! It's not that they've done or said some act of worship, you just know they worship Trump.

My discernment is telling me something here.

I don't buy it. In my POV, people are being slandered on a wholesale basis. Even from you, claiming we're all sold out to Satan. What was it you said?

I'm very sorry to say, the church in America has been taken captive. It's official now.

I'm more sorry to learn that you think you have the right to make such a pronouncement. And that you just keep doubling down on it.

And it's nonsense, and vanity. Maybe it makes you feel more important, that you can look down your nose at us blind and wretched Republicans or whatever, but to continue trashing US Christianity, can't you see, it's no good??

Praying!

Much love!

 

[Rockerduck]

Idolatry is a matter of the heart and emotions, it's not like you can point to someone visibly kneeling and bowing to a statue, but it can be discerned.

Not for Christians. Its the Holy Spirit that guides us. Heart and emotion are pagan practices.

 

[Rockerduck]

Sign of the times.
USA as well.
A worldwide sign of the times.
It's in your Bible, end times.
Same in Europe.
Nobody should be surprised about these issues.

The USA, Canada, and South America are NOT in bible prophecy. It is all old Roman empire.

 

[Triumph1300]

The USA, Canada, and South America are NOT in bible prophecy. It is all old Roman empire.

You ripped the Book of Revelations out of your Bible?

 

[Rockerduck]

You ripped the Book of Revelations out of your Bible?

Show me where, don't post something. I know the book of Revelation very, very well.

 

[Triumph1300]

Show me where, don't post something. I know the book of Revelation very, very well.

Well, then you should know that the whole world will be effected by future events described in Revelations.

 

[Rockerduck]

Well, then you should know that the whole world will be effected by future events described in Revelations.

then you don't understand the book of Revelation, Many of the events are past and they were all in the Roman empire.

 

[ProDeo]

Just asked chatgpt using the reason button, and it said no it is not; it is within the bounds of orthodox teaching, read the response

Is Calvinism a false teaching

ChatGPT said:​

Calvinism isn’t a “secret cult” or fringe heresy, but rather one of the historic schools of Protestant theology—particularly within Reformed and Presbyterian traditions—devoted to explaining how God saves sinners. Whether it’s “false” depends on your theological commitments. Here’s a fair overview:

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1. What Calvinism Teaches (the “TULIP” summary)​

1. Total Depravity
   Every part of human nature is marred by sin, so apart from divine intervention we cannot turn to God.
2. Unconditional Election
   Before the world began, God chose certain individuals for salvation—not based on any foreseen merit or action on their part.
3. Limited Atonement (or “Particular Redemption”)
   Christ’s death effectively secures salvation for the elect alone, actually bringing them to faith.
4. Irresistible Grace
   When God intends to save someone, His Spirit overcomes their resistance and brings them freely but irresistibly into faith.
5. Perseverance of the Saints
   Those truly born again will persevere to the end; they cannot finally fall away.

---

2. Why Many Embrace It​

• High View of God’s Sovereignty
  Calvinism exalts God’s initiative—He alone accomplishes salvation from first to last.
• Assurance of Salvation
  If salvation rests entirely on God’s unchanging will, believers can have confidence that He will complete what He began (Phil. 1:6).
• Coherent Biblical Narrative
  Calvinists argue their system best harmonizes texts that speak of God’s election (e.g. Romans 9) with texts about human responsibility.

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3. Common Objections​

1. Free Will and Human Responsibility
   Critics (especially Arminians) say Calvinism makes human choice a mere byproduct of divine decree, undermining true moral responsibility.
2. Love and Justice of God
   Some argue that if God elects some to salvation and not others, it seems arbitrary or incompatible with His universal love (e.g. 1 Tim. 2:4).
3. Scope of the Atonement
   The idea that Christ died “only for the elect” feels to many like a limitation on the universal offer of the gospel (John 3:16; 2 Cor. 5:14–15).

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4. The Broader Protestant Landscape​

• Arminianism (Methodists, many Baptists) affirms prevenient grace—God enables every person to respond—and then conditional election based on foreseen faith.
• Lutheranism holds to single predestination (God chooses the saved but does not actively decree the damned) and teaches that Christ’s atonement is universal in scope.
• Non-denominational Evangelicals often blend elements of both, emphasizing human choice while affirming God’s initiative in salvation.

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5. Is It “False Teaching”?​

• Within Historic Protestantism: No. Calvinism falls squarely within the bounds of orthodox, biblical Christianity. Key confessions (Westminster, Belgic, Canons of Dort) are widely regarded as faithful interpretations of Scripture.
• Debated, Not Condemned: While Arminians, Lutherans, and Roman Catholics reject aspects of Calvinism, they do so on theological grounds—not by labeling it inherently heretical. These disagreements happen under the shared banner of “Christian orthodoxy.”
• Heretical Only at Extremes: Problems arise when one distorts Scripture to make God arbitrary or denies clear biblical teachings on human responsibility. But balanced, confessional Calvinism takes both God’s sovereignty and human accountability seriously.

---

In Summary​

Calvinism is not broadly regarded as a “false” or “demonic” teaching within historic Christianity, but as one major approach to understanding how God sovereignly saves sinners. It’s vigorously debated—especially over free will and the scope of Christ’s atonement—but remains a legitimate, time-tested expression of Protestant faith. Which framework you embrace will depend on how you weigh passages about divine election, human choice, and the nature of Christ’s atoning work.

It depends on the version you are using, you probably need the $200 / month version.

Anyway, my post wasn't meant to start another discussion on Calvinism, just to highlight how far (and how fast) AI is moving into the wrong direction. Not that AI is bad in itself, but the risks outweigh the benefits. Maybe you heard of the recent power crash in Spain and Portugal, could be the work of AI. Imagine in war if you can put a country in darkness for 24 hours.

As it is with every new invention, you can do good and bad things. The invention of a plain was nice until someone bad got the idea you could also throw bombs with it.

 

[marks]

Just asked chatgpt using the reason button, and it said no it is not; it is within the bounds of orthodox teaching, read the response

Is Calvinism a false teaching

ChatGPT said:​

Calvinism isn’t a “secret cult” or fringe heresy, but rather one of the historic schools of Protestant theology—particularly within Reformed and Presbyterian traditions—devoted to explaining how God saves sinners. Whether it’s “false” depends on your theological commitments. Here’s a fair overview:

---

1. What Calvinism Teaches (the “TULIP” summary)​

1. Total Depravity
   Every part of human nature is marred by sin, so apart from divine intervention we cannot turn to God.
2. Unconditional Election
   Before the world began, God chose certain individuals for salvation—not based on any foreseen merit or action on their part.
3. Limited Atonement (or “Particular Redemption”)
   Christ’s death effectively secures salvation for the elect alone, actually bringing them to faith.
4. Irresistible Grace
   When God intends to save someone, His Spirit overcomes their resistance and brings them freely but irresistibly into faith.
5. Perseverance of the Saints
   Those truly born again will persevere to the end; they cannot finally fall away.

---

2. Why Many Embrace It​

• High View of God’s Sovereignty
  Calvinism exalts God’s initiative—He alone accomplishes salvation from first to last.
• Assurance of Salvation
  If salvation rests entirely on God’s unchanging will, believers can have confidence that He will complete what He began (Phil. 1:6).
• Coherent Biblical Narrative
  Calvinists argue their system best harmonizes texts that speak of God’s election (e.g. Romans 9) with texts about human responsibility.

---

3. Common Objections​

1. Free Will and Human Responsibility
   Critics (especially Arminians) say Calvinism makes human choice a mere byproduct of divine decree, undermining true moral responsibility.
2. Love and Justice of God
   Some argue that if God elects some to salvation and not others, it seems arbitrary or incompatible with His universal love (e.g. 1 Tim. 2:4).
3. Scope of the Atonement
   The idea that Christ died “only for the elect” feels to many like a limitation on the universal offer of the gospel (John 3:16; 2 Cor. 5:14–15).

---

4. The Broader Protestant Landscape​

• Arminianism (Methodists, many Baptists) affirms prevenient grace—God enables every person to respond—and then conditional election based on foreseen faith.
• Lutheranism holds to single predestination (God chooses the saved but does not actively decree the damned) and teaches that Christ’s atonement is universal in scope.
• Non-denominational Evangelicals often blend elements of both, emphasizing human choice while affirming God’s initiative in salvation.

---

5. Is It “False Teaching”?​

• Within Historic Protestantism: No. Calvinism falls squarely within the bounds of orthodox, biblical Christianity. Key confessions (Westminster, Belgic, Canons of Dort) are widely regarded as faithful interpretations of Scripture.
• Debated, Not Condemned: While Arminians, Lutherans, and Roman Catholics reject aspects of Calvinism, they do so on theological grounds—not by labeling it inherently heretical. These disagreements happen under the shared banner of “Christian orthodoxy.”
• Heretical Only at Extremes: Problems arise when one distorts Scripture to make God arbitrary or denies clear biblical teachings on human responsibility. But balanced, confessional Calvinism takes both God’s sovereignty and human accountability seriously.

---

In Summary​

Calvinism is not broadly regarded as a “false” or “demonic” teaching within historic Christianity, but as one major approach to understanding how God sovereignly saves sinners. It’s vigorously debated—especially over free will and the scope of Christ’s atonement—but remains a legitimate, time-tested expression of Protestant faith. Which framework you embrace will depend on how you weigh passages about divine election, human choice, and the nature of Christ’s atoning work.

This was written by AI? Impressive!

Much love!