Rockerduck
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I know there is a simmering anger in England that is building up amongst the Brits. We shall see.
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The citizens in Scotland, Ireland and Wales (the UK) are also fed up. Two tier policing and also migrants put up at four and five star hotels, three meals a day, taxis to take them to doctors, pocket money each week and more. All paid for by the tax payers.
There are also mobile dental vans going from migrant hotel to migrant hotel. While British citizens sometimes have to wait years for an appointment. One lady told me she had to pay for a private dentist because she couldn't wait for three years.
quietthinker
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Why do you post this stuff Debp? It only generates outrage and hate and recrimination. It is not constructive at all.
Righteous anger is acceptable in cases like Henry Nowak and other UK citizens who have been murdered or sexually assaulted by people the UK government let pour into the country. Especially those that are unvetted.
Who controls British borders? Wasn't Brexit supposed to fix all this? I think people focus all of their rage in the wrong direction. It's the British politicians that did this to the country.
You do realise that they come in on boats - we are an island. You cannot police the whole of our shore line. You also can’t just leave people to perish on the sea. It’s what they do once they are ashore that needs sorting out. Its not about border control, it’s about where they should go once they are here.
Everyone complains and moans about the issues but offer no real solution. Farage says everyone will go , but he has no real plans to deal with that.
Brexit wasn’t all about immigration, we were promised a lot of things , once again by Farage.
Alot of UK citizens have rage towards their government for allowing all of this to happen.
Just yesterday a Somali tried to behead a guy on the street in Belfast, Ireland. He was straddling him and sawing his neck!!! I've heard the victim's eyes might have been gouged out but no confirmation on that yet.
This video is only about 90 seconds but it shows what happens in the English Channel. There is a much longer video on this but posting the shorter one.
The French escort the rubber boats loaded with illegal migrants halfway. Then the British boat picks up the migrants from the rubber boats. And the UK pays a lot of money to France to stop the migrants!
Here is the longer video of what happens in the middle of the English Channel. Danny Tommo has a boat and went out to document it.
It is absolutely about border control. You cannot allow everyone to land on your shores and just hope that they don't commit crime, and just hope that they respect the British enough to assimilate. That's insane.
Why pay the French to do it? Why not put that money into creating an organization similar to the US Coastguard? The French have their own problems with migrants. Paris is unrecognizable today.
Of course the French will pocket the money and send the migrants to Britain anyway. Because what are the British going to do about it? Send a strongly worded letter to Macron?
"Macron, you naughty, naughty, man!" - Keir Starmer.
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The point I was raising is that we are an island and there is only border control at our main ports.
What do you do with a dingy full of people, many of which are women and children and many drown in the crossing. So many people complain and moan, disagree with the situation, but no one seems to have any solutions. Of course the government should do something, but as you have already stated Europe itself is also dealing with the same problem. No one has any idea how to solve the problem. Many are deported, but there is a process and that takes time.
At one stage the government were planning on sending them to Rwanda - but that got voted out of parliament In the end.
Someone is making a lot of money from getting the migrants across the channel.
So expand border control beyond the main ports. I don't buy the idea that the British intelligence services are completely blind and have no idea where these boats are landing.
As an American, I already gave you the solution: a UK Coastguard. Beyond that, your country needs to make it clear that it's no longer open for buisness. Otherwise, word spreads, and the boats never stop.
You solve the problem by rewriting your laws and begin mass deportations of all the people that shouldn't be there. The Brits always bring up international law. But what has international law done for your country?
Corruption. That's the Achilles heel of every democracy. Democracy is great when the beauocracy is kept in check. But when it isn't, democracy chokes on it's own tail.
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quietthinker
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Selfishness is the endemic problem. All are affected, none exempt. It gives birth to everything dysfunctional. The perpetrators have victims and the victims become perpetrators while they in turn become victims.
Jesus never involved himself in the political process as such because it is fundamentally infected with selfishness. His solution was self sacrifice......and who wants to take this seriously? It cuts across the primary instinct of survival.
Who is prepared to give their life both personally and societally for the other?
If you watch the above videos I posted, the French boat escorts the rubber boat halfway across the English Channel...then the British boat loads the migrants onto their boat. And the French boat takes the rubber dinghies and life jackets back to France to reuse.
The migrants in the rubber boats are all young fighting age men...you don't see women and children.
Danny Tommo watched three British boats in one day filled with migrants arriving in Dover. No women or children. He videoed the men as they left the boats.
The migrant hotels in UK are filled with these young fighting age men...four and five star hotels plus everything else for free. That's why they keep coming to the UK. I've seen videos of migrants saying they want the free benefits...they pass through Italy, Germany, France and Belgium but keep going because of the UK benefits.
quietthinker
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no worries; young fighting men have permission to drown.....never mind that they may be going ahead of their families. Do you think they might love them also....or are they just people whose intent is to exploit others?
By the way....imagine if the angels said, 'keep those earthlings outta here, we don't want them; even the best of them are tainted with self seeking in spite of their smooth tongues'.
The issue is that the UK government is allowing militant Islamists into the country...many violent crimes are committed by them on UK citizens, including sex crimes. These men have not been vetted. They throw away their documents on the French beach so they cannot be identified.
Another violent crime committed yesterday by a migrant from Sudan. He attempted to behead an Irish man by straddling him. He gouged out one eye, blinded the victim's other eye and cut off the Irish man's nose... besides sawing at his neck. Thank God a couple of passer-bys saved the man from his attacker. Irish man is in serious condition.
Attempted beheading in Belfast, Ireland
Unbelievable. Brief video but shows what the UK citizens are upset about. Click on watch on YouTube.
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But why? Why is it that it wouldn't have been allowed in the 20th century, but is allowed in the 21st century?
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Innocent blood is something that cries out to God and is something that cannot be ignored....
Innocent Blood Cries Unto God... The guilt of innocent blood curses entire cities. It is the responsibility of every citizen of a town to deal with the shedding of innocent blood. Chose not to deal with it and God himself will take issue with it.
10 Then were the men exceedingly afraid, and said unto him. Why hast thou done this? For the men knew that he fled from the presence of the Lord, because he had told them.
11 Then said they unto him, What shall we do unto thee, that the sea may be calm unto us? for the sea wrought, and was tempestuous.
12 And he said unto them, Take me up, and cast me forth into the sea; so shall the sea be calm unto you: for I know that for my sake this great tempest is upon you.
13 Nevertheless the men rowed hard to bring it to the land; but they could not: for the sea wrought, and was tempestuous against them.
14 Wherefore they cried unto the Lord, and said, We beseech thee, O Lord, we beseech thee, let us not perish for this man's life, and lay not upon us innocent blood: for thou, O Lord, hast done as it pleased thee.
15 So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea: and the sea ceased from her raging.
16 Then the men feared the Lord exceedingly, and offered a sacrifice unto the Lord, and made vows. - Jonah 1
1 If one be found slain in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee to possess it, lying in the field, and it be not known who hath slain him:
2 Then thy elders and thy judges shall come forth, and they shall measure unto the cities which are round about him that is slain:
3 And it shall be, that the city which is next unto the slain man, even the elders of that city shall take an heifer, which hath not been wrought with, and which hath not drawn in the yoke;
4 And the elders of that city shall bring down the heifer unto a rough valley, which is neither eared nor sown, and shall strike off the heifer's neck there in the valley:
5 And the priests the sons of Levi shall come near; for them the Lord thy God hath chosen to minister unto him, and to bless in the name of the Lord; and by their word shall every controversy and every stroke be tried:
6 And all the elders of that city, that are next unto the slain man, shall wash their hands over the heifer that is beheaded in the valley:
7 And they shall answer and say, Our hands have not shed this blood, neither have our eyes seen it.
8 Be merciful, O Lord, unto thy people Israel, whom thou hast redeemed, and lay not innocent blood unto thy people of Israel's charge. And the blood shall be forgiven them.
9 So shalt thou put away the guilt of innocent blood from among you, when thou shalt do that which is right in the sight of the Lord. - Deuteronomy 21
Innocent Blood Cries Unto God... The guilt of innocent blood curses entire cities. It is the responsibility of every citizen of a town to deal with the shedding of innocent blood. Chose not to deal with it and God himself will take issue with it.
10 Then were the men exceedingly afraid, and said unto him. Why hast thou done this? For the men knew that he fled from the presence of the Lord, because he had told them.
11 Then said they unto him, What shall we do unto thee, that the sea may be calm unto us? for the sea wrought, and was tempestuous.
12 And he said unto them, Take me up, and cast me forth into the sea; so shall the sea be calm unto you: for I know that for my sake this great tempest is upon you.
13 Nevertheless the men rowed hard to bring it to the land; but they could not: for the sea wrought, and was tempestuous against them.
14 Wherefore they cried unto the Lord, and said, We beseech thee, O Lord, we beseech thee, let us not perish for this man's life, and lay not upon us innocent blood: for thou, O Lord, hast done as it pleased thee.
15 So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea: and the sea ceased from her raging.
16 Then the men feared the Lord exceedingly, and offered a sacrifice unto the Lord, and made vows. - Jonah 1
1 If one be found slain in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee to possess it, lying in the field, and it be not known who hath slain him:
2 Then thy elders and thy judges shall come forth, and they shall measure unto the cities which are round about him that is slain:
3 And it shall be, that the city which is next unto the slain man, even the elders of that city shall take an heifer, which hath not been wrought with, and which hath not drawn in the yoke;
4 And the elders of that city shall bring down the heifer unto a rough valley, which is neither eared nor sown, and shall strike off the heifer's neck there in the valley:
5 And the priests the sons of Levi shall come near; for them the Lord thy God hath chosen to minister unto him, and to bless in the name of the Lord; and by their word shall every controversy and every stroke be tried:
6 And all the elders of that city, that are next unto the slain man, shall wash their hands over the heifer that is beheaded in the valley:
7 And they shall answer and say, Our hands have not shed this blood, neither have our eyes seen it.
8 Be merciful, O Lord, unto thy people Israel, whom thou hast redeemed, and lay not innocent blood unto thy people of Israel's charge. And the blood shall be forgiven them.
9 So shalt thou put away the guilt of innocent blood from among you, when thou shalt do that which is right in the sight of the Lord. - Deuteronomy 21
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