Ultimately, it's not a matter of who is right and who is wrong... (?)

[PS95]

Believe means more than that single word--Matt 7:21-23--these believe.; The laodecians( ones called christian) who are lukewarm in Revelation believe, but Jesus will vomit them out it says in revelation.
So believing means more than that single word--Obeying is a major part of those who believe.

Why must you always insinuate that I think we should disobey God? There is no reason for that. Where have I ever said that?
Belief in Jesus is OUR FIRST act of obedience to God the Father. The rest follows when one sincerely believes, and is born a new- the spirit of Christ/spirit of God/Holy Spirit helps us to obey and teaches us. It is not a set of man's rules- but is to love one another.

Ones will be resurrected because they are acquitted of sin at death. Gods 100% judgement against sin=the wages sin pays is death. Paid in full at death. But then there is the matter of taking a direct stand against Jehovah and his will.

Do you continue in that lie on purpose? Nowhere does the bible teach that. Romans 6:7 is 1/7 of one sentence.. it is about our lives now. Our old nature was CRUCIFIED and DIED. ONLY those who are born again in Christ have sins acquitted because we DIED to the flesh and live in the spirit--- That is what Paul is saying. It's absurd to twist that into what you are teachings. Be careful!!!!
Romans 6:5-7 is one sentence---
5For if we have been united with Him like this in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection. 6We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin. 7For anyone who has died has been freed from sin.

keep reading.. Ro 6:8-11
8Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him. 9For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, He cannot die again; death no longer has dominion over Him. 10The death He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life He lives, He lives to God. 11So you too must count yourselves dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

No one is that dense to think that is speaking about our physical death. You must want to continue to teach a lie.
There is nothing left to say. We have been through this countless times. You just refuse to believe anyone but your goons- even if that means denying the very scriptures..

In order for a mortal to know for sure if another is saved, he would have to be able to read the true heart=he cannot--2) he would have to have seen ones name written in Gods book of life=He has not seen one.-3) He would have to know who will endure until their end= he has no clue. Thus does not know who is saved only by theory.

Have you seen the book of life with your goon leaders names in it? NO. Then why do you believe every lie they tell?

Example Joel Osteen stands on tv says-say 3 lines of prayer with me and you are saved--he doesn't know 1/ 10th of those people and which sins they practice or what partaking's off the table of demons they do, but the blind believe people like that.. He is making millions of $$$ doing it.
All telling others-you are saved= blind guides.

Osteen is a false teacher. There are MANY. --Never look to man for your answers. Read the scriptures and Pray.

 

[Keiw]

Why must you always insinuate that I think we should disobey God? There is no reason for that. Where have I ever said that?
Belief in Jesus is OUR FIRST act of obedience to God the Father. The rest follows when one sincerely believes, and is born a new- the spirit of Christ/spirit of God/Holy Spirit helps us to obey and teaches us. It is not a set of man's rules- but is to love one another.

Do you continue in that lie on purpose? Nowhere does the bible teach that. Romans 6:7 is 1/7 of one sentence.. it is about our lives now. Our old nature was CRUCIFIED and DIED. ONLY those who are born again in Christ have sins acquitted because we DIED to the flesh and live in the spirit--- That is what Paul is saying. It's absurd to twist that into what you are teachings. Be careful!!!!
Romans 6:5-7 is one sentence---
5For if we have been united with Him like this in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection. 6We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin. 7For anyone who has died has been freed from sin.

keep reading.. Ro 6:8-11
8Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him. 9For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, He cannot die again; death no longer has dominion over Him. 10The death He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life He lives, He lives to God. 11So you too must count yourselves dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

No one is that dense to think that is speaking about our physical death. You must want to continue to teach a lie.
There is nothing left to say. We have been through this countless times. You just refuse to believe anyone but your goons- even if that means denying the very scriptures..




Have you seen the book of life with your goon leaders names in it? NO. Then why do you believe every lie they tell?


Osteen is a false teacher. There are MANY. --Never look to man for your answers. Read the scriptures and Pray.

You call me a liar--Then prove Gods judgement for one who sins isn't death.=The wages sin pays is death.
It is 100% reality=Jesus leads the JW religion. My teachers are these=Matt 24:45--Thus when you call them liars are calling Jesus a liar as well= Whatever you do to the least of these my brothers, you do to me.

 

[St. SteVen]

It is 100% reality=Jesus leads the JW religion.

Say what?

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[PS95]

You call me a liar--Then prove Gods judgement for one who sins isn't death.=The wages sin pays is death.
It is 100% reality=Jesus leads the JW religion. My teachers are these=Matt 24:45--Thus when you call them liars are calling Jesus a liar as well= Whatever you do to the least of these my brothers, you do to me.

I didn't call you a liar. I said you are continuing in that lie- (it was taught to you and is a lie) That's why I have compassion on you. If it was your lie I would not! Why you continue in believing it is my question- you have been shown numerous times that it is incorrect.
Romans 6 is not speaking about physical death!! You know that in side somewhere. All I ask of you is simple. READ YOUR BIBLE. Put down the wt books and mags. ALONE. just READ GOD's WORD AND PRAY FOR UNDERSTANDING.
how is that wrong?
because man told you not to? WHY would they do that KEIW? WHAT DO THEY HIDE? They are not fds. That's been proven a zillion times over,

 

[Keiw]

Say what?

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All who knows what Jesus teaches knows its fact. Few know what he teaches.

 

[Keiw]

I didn't call you a liar. I said you are continuing in that lie- (it was taught to you and is a lie) That's why I have compassion on you. If it was your lie I would not! Why you continue in believing it is my question- you have been shown numerous times that it is incorrect.
Romans 6 is not speaking about physical death!! You know that in side somewhere. All I ask of you is simple. READ YOUR BIBLE. Put down the wt books and mags. ALONE. just READ GOD's WORD AND PRAY FOR UNDERSTANDING.
how is that wrong?
because man told you not to? WHY would they do that KEIW? WHAT DO THEY HIDE? They are not fds. That's been proven a zillion times over,

Its not a lie--The bible teaches 100% = the wages sin pays is death= Gods judgement against sin.
Not one on Earth can understand the deep things in Gods bible without being taught by these=Matt 24:45. Its why the trinity based religionsssssssssssssssssssssssssss are a house dived they will not stand.=a mass of confusion.