Unethical mRNA Vaccine - Input from a Biochemist.

[Armour of God]

Certifications mean the physician is in accord with those particular groups of physicians. They don't lose their license to practice. They are free to practice as the law allows, but they aren't free to demand that other physicians agree with them.

From your source:
COVID-19 safety recommendations are set by mainstream medical organizations as new information becomes available, but some doctors consistently oppose advice from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other medical authorities. These physicians often promote off-label, unapproved use of medications for COVID-19 and/or contradict mainstream safety guidelines such as vaccines, masks, and social distancing.

Some medical organizations are concerned that these doctors are hampering efforts to control the highly contagious coronavirus and are, at worst, placing lives in danger with their contrarian views that can spread like wildfire on social media sites. Their words are often used by those who refuse to be vaccinated or wear masks.

State licensing boards have mostly refused to discipline these doctors for making false and/or misleading claims, but as the virus spreads, there are calls to take action against them. However, others worry that such actions would violate free speech and critical thought.

Physicians React: Docs Lose Licenses for False COVID Information

Doctors have strong feelings about possible repercussions for physicians who disseminate inaccurate information about COVID-19. Here's what they have to say.

www.medscape.com

This directly contradicts your claims. It appears that Australia is more direct in dealing with physicians who promote false claims. But I haven't checked your claims on those sources.

The named physicians continue to have their licenses to practice medicine; they merely no longer have the certification of a private board for internal medicine. Again, they are entitled to have divergent opinions, but they are not entitled to endorsements from their peers.

First you said it wasn't true.
So I provided 9 headlines showing that it was true in your country and mine.
Covid was a pseudo-science.
End of story.

 

[The Barbarian]

First you said it wasn't true.

Just pointing out that you had it wrong. No one got fired. And while some groups of physicians chose to no longer be associated with physicians denying the facts, that's not being persecuted.

So I provided 9 headlines showing that it was true

In fact, when I checked your headlines at the website you showed us, it showed exactly the opposite of your claim:

From your source:
COVID-19 safety recommendations are set by mainstream medical organizations as new information becomes available, but some doctors consistently oppose advice from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other medical authorities. These physicians often promote off-label, unapproved use of medications for COVID-19 and/or contradict mainstream safety guidelines such as vaccines, masks, and social distancing.

Some medical organizations are concerned that these doctors are hampering efforts to control the highly contagious coronavirus and are, at worst, placing lives in danger with their contrarian views that can spread like wildfire on social media sites. Their words are often used by those who refuse to be vaccinated or wear masks.

State licensing boards have mostly refused to discipline these doctors for making false and/or misleading claims, but as the virus spreads, there are calls to take action against them. However, others worry that such actions would violate free speech and critical thought.
www.medscape.com

Covid was a pseudo-science.

There's a number of errors in that claim.
1. COVID actually covers a number of viruses that cause illness.(coronaviruses)
2. It's a well-documented part of virology in general.
3. Physicians and immunologists have documented the pandemic and COVID-19 as the pathogen causing the pandemic, including subsequent mutations into new versions of the virus.

End of story.

 

[The Barbarian]

This is pseudoscience. Suppression of actual scientific data.

 

[Armour of God]

Doctors were in fact silenced and cancelled for having different opinions, I presented 9 cases of this.
This is undeniably a pseudo-science.

In the end people can take whatever drugs they want to take. As long as I can choose what to take without being discriminated against then I don't really care.

 

[Armour of God]

It's been proven
Covid injections are
A pseudo-science
End of story

 

[The Barbarian]

It's been proven
Covid injections are
A pseudo-science

Well, let's see how your belief worked in the real world...


Death rates from COVID-19 were over 10 times greater in unvaccinated people than they were in vaccinated people.
End of story. Who would be foolish enough to challenge odds like that?

 

[The Barbarian]

Doctors were in fact silenced and cancelled for having different opinions, I presented 9 cases of this.

They still had their licenses to practice. What they didn't have was the agreement of their fellow physicians. They are entitled to their opinions, but they are not entitled to insisting that other physicians agree with them. If they want to start their own associations, they are free to do so.

But they have no right to demand that others be associated with them.

 

[Justified]

God doesn't lie, but scientists do. Jeremiah 17:5 is not a misuse of scripture, it is God's truth to His chosen elect.

Of course, but the way you're using it is a misuse.

You don't need a doctor to diet do you? You know that losing weight will cure things, right? You know that exercise cures things too, right. throw away the pills.. Let God show you what you need, put your trust in God and nothing else. You can't trust God alone and listen to scientists and doctors, who only work for money and how to make more money and make you afraid.

This is exceptionally poor reasoning that ignores the fact that God created the earth and human body, and has given men the ability and knowledge to know how to prevent, help, and even cure things that ail us in this fallen world. Take Paul's instruction to Timothy to have a little wine for his ailment, for example. And, consider just how many plants have various medicinal properties that are of benefit to us--many medicines are based on the chemical makeup of those properties. Did God create those plants for no purpose at all? That means that trusting in God includes going to the doctor; they aren't mutually exclusive and it is foolish to not do so. It also ignores the fact that while exercise is very beneficial for many conditions, it isn't a cure-all.

To say that scientists and doctors "only work for money and how to make more money and make you afraid," is a gross generalization that doesn't fit the facts.

So, for the third time, is it fair to say that you don’t believe Christian scientists and doctors? Why do you keep on avoiding answering such a simple question?

 

[Justified]

It's been proven
Covid injections are
A pseudo-science
End of story

Not. Even. Close.

 

[Armour of God]

Not. Even. Close.

Many doctors being silenced and cancelled for having different opinions.
That's the definition of a pseudo-science.
Game over.

 

[The Barbarian]

Many doctors being silenced and cancelled for having different opinions.

As you learned, those doctors still have their licenses, and they still practice medicine. Since you can find their opinions all over the net, they certainly haven't been silenced. They seem to have a martyr complex and use it to recruit followers.

That's the definition of a pseudo-science.

No.
pseudoscience /soo͞″dō-sī′əns/

noun​

1. A theory, methodology, or practice that is considered to be without scientific foundation.
2. Any body of knowledge purported to be scientific or supported by science but which fails to comply with the scientific method.
3. An activity resembling science but based on fallacious assumptions.

So why are anti-vaxxers considered to be fooled by pseudoscience?
The real world results of testing and vaccination programs have completely demolished their claims.

Alex Jones says that “27 peer-reviewed doctors stated that 100% of people who got the vaccine will die by 2028 because of mRNA technology.” But this claim does not hold up when we look at the facts.

First, there is no such thing as a “peer-reviewed doctor.” Peer review is a system used in science to make sure studies are accurate and trustworthy. Before a study is published, other experts in the same field carefully check it for mistakes, bias, or poor methods. It is the research that is peer reviewed, not the person. If someone says “peer-reviewed doctors,” they are misusing the term and trying to make their claim sound more scientific than it is.

Second, the timeline in these claims keeps shifting. At different times, people have said that everyone who got the vaccine would die within six months, then within a year, then within three years, and then within five years. Now the claim has moved to 2028. Each time the deadline passes and vaccinated people remain healthy, the prediction changes. This pattern shows that the claim is not based on evidence, but on fear and moving the goalposts.

Are all COVID vaccinated people dying?

Conspiracy theories say vaccinated people will die by 2028—but there’s zero evidence. mRNA vaccines are safe, tested, and saving lives around the world.

www.voicesforvaccines.org

Facts are out there for anyone who wants to check. Game over.

 

[Armour of God]

Take your pseudo-science toxic injections.
I'll pass thank you very much

 

[The Barbarian]

Take your pseudo-science toxic injections.
I'll pass thank you very much

I know people who don't wear seat belts because they've been convinced that they harm people. In the long run, natural selection fixes it.

 

[Armour of God]

I know people who don't wear seat belts because they've been convinced that they harm people. In the long run, natural selection fixes it.

Comparing seat belts to toxic injections
Your just hilarious

 

[Rockerduck]

Of course, but the way you're using it is a misuse.


This is exceptionally poor reasoning that ignores the fact that God created the earth and human body, and has given men the ability and knowledge to know how to prevent, help, and even cure things that ail us in this fallen world. Take Paul's instruction to Timothy to have a little wine for his ailment, for example. And, consider just how many plants have various medicinal properties that are of benefit to us--many medicines are based on the chemical makeup of those properties. Did God create those plants for no purpose at all? That means that trusting in God includes going to the doctor; they aren't mutually exclusive and it is foolish to not do so. It also ignores the fact that while exercise is very beneficial for many conditions, it isn't a cure-all.

To say that scientists and doctors "only work for money and how to make more money and make you afraid," is a gross generalization that doesn't fit the facts.

So, for the third time, is it fair to say that you don’t believe Christian scientists and doctors? Why do you keep on avoiding answering such a simple question?

Did I say I was afraid? I'm fearless of anyone. I could care less what you think, but I will tell a doctor to his face what went wrong. I've told a dentist what went wrong. I just told a traffic cop he was wrong two days ago.
Romans 8:31 - What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us?
2 Timothy 1:7 - For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline.

God created me and put me on this earth to trust in Him and Him only. When God tells me to go to a doctor, I'll go. God has healed me of every ailment I needed healed.

Jeremiah 17:5 - “Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind And makes flesh his strength, And whose heart turns away from the Lord.

Proverbs 3:5 -
Trust in the Lord with all your heart
And do not lean on your own understanding.
6 In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He will make your paths straight.

 

[The Barbarian]

Comparing seat belts to toxic injections

Just pointing out that the same faulty reasoning to avoid a safe and effective vaccination is used to resist wearing seat belts. In each case, you are likely to survive anyway, but the odds are much worse if you ignore the facts.

Your just hilarious

Perhaps you meant "You're." Or maybe you just forgot to include the subject. One of those.

 

[Armour of God]

 

[Justified]

Did I say I was afraid?

No, you didn’t say you were afraid. Did I say or even imply you were? No.

I'm fearless of anyone. I could care less what you think, but I will tell a doctor to his face what went wrong. I've told a dentist what went wrong. I just told a traffic cop he was wrong two days ago.

That is not something to brag about. That sounds more like insolence that comes from pride. God opposes the proud.

Romans 8:31 - What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us?
2 Timothy 1:7 - For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline.

More misuse of Scripture. This is proof-texting and will almost always lead to error, such as here.

God created me and put me on this earth to trust in Him and Him only. When God tells me to go to a doctor, I'll go. God has healed me of every ailment I needed healed.

And God gave men the knowledge, interests, skills, and gifts to be scientists and doctors, so why do you refuse to use godly wisdom and trust those who do their work as unto the Lord?

So, for the fourth time, is it fair to say that you don’t believe Christian scientists and doctors?

Jeremiah 17:5 - “Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind And makes flesh his strength, And whose heart turns away from the Lord.


Proverbs 3:5 -
Trust in the Lord with all your heart
And do not lean on your own understanding.
6 In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He will make your paths straight.

More misuse of Scripture.

 

[Justified]

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Others use poor reasoning to make memes such as that.

 

[Armour of God]

Others use poor reasoning to make memes such as that.

The silencing and cancelling of doctors with opposing opinions is wrong, its anti science. The cancellation occurs because they know they will loose in a debate. This is the definition of a pseudo-science

I didn't see anyone die from covid but I did see people get sick, cancer, blood clots and even die from those covid injections, including some of my family members. Me and many other people I know didn't take the toxic syringes, and we were all just fine.

You can either trust the pseudo-science or you can trust in God.