Unless You Eat My Flesh And Drink My Blood

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Jesus' glorified body is immortal; it cannot be broken. The body that Jesus
shared with his men at the last supper is the one that died on the cross.

Luke 22:19 . . And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to
them, saying: This is my body given for you

1Cor 11:23-24 . .The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took
bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said: This is my
body, which is for you

In addition, the blood that Jesus shared with his men at the last supper
wasn't his glorified blood, it was his crucified blood.

Matt 26:27-29 . .Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to
them, saying: Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant,
which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. (See also Mark
14:23-24, Luke 22:20)

The Eucharist (a.k.a. the Lord's Supper, a.k.a. Communion) was established
to speak of Christ's death rather than his glorification.

1Cor 11:26 . . For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you
proclaim the Lord's death.

Therefore, when Jesus spoke of living bread in John 6:50-51, he was
speaking of his crucified body rather than his glorified body. In other words:
up to this point, the only thing you've consumed in the Eucharist is a snack.


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Luke 22
[19] And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1 Cor 11
[25] After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

Glory to God,
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Ummmmm YOU yourself made that claim back in post #13 . .
"And of course all of your so-called are from Catholics."

THEN
, from post #15 . . .
"Your so-called experts."

I did not agree with you those men were Catholics.

As stated more than once the Catholic Church did not exist before 335 . Those men lived before 335.
 
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I did not agree with you those men were Catholics.

As stated more than once the Catholic Church did not exist before 335 . Those men lived before 335.
Yes, you keep making this idiotic claim but you've NEVER been able to offer any actual documented evidence.

Care to give it a shot here, Einstein??
 
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Jesus' glorified body is immortal; it cannot be broken. The body that Jesus
shared with his men at the last supper is the one that died on the cross.

Luke 22:19 . . And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to
them, saying: This is my body given for you

1Cor 11:23-24 . .The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took
bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said: This is my
body, which is for you

In addition, the blood that Jesus shared with his men at the last supper
wasn't his glorified blood, it was his crucified blood.

Matt 26:27-29 . .Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to
them, saying: Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant,
which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. (See also Mark
14:23-24, Luke 22:20)

The Eucharist (a.k.a. the Lord's Supper, a.k.a. Communion) was established
to speak of Christ's death rather than his glorification.

1Cor 11:26 . . For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you
proclaim the Lord's death.

Therefore, when Jesus spoke of living bread in John 6:50-51, he was
speaking of his crucified body rather than his glorified body. In other words:
up to this point, the only thing you've consumed in the Eucharist is a snack.
You'd be as well off with Cheez-its and Gator Aid.
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Could this be the wedding supper?
 

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According to 1Cor 15:50, flesh and blood is barred access to the kingdom of
God, which tells me that the design of Jesus' glorious body is very different
than the design of his original body; ergo: the design of his true believing
followers' glorious bodies will be very different too. (Phil 3:20-21)

Though Jesus Christ's glorious body is no longer the very same body in
which he was crucified, it is still capable of dining upon ordinary foods.

Luke 22:15-16 . . I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you
before I suffer. For I tell you: I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in
the kingdom of God.

And capable of imbibing ordinary beverages too.

Matt 26:29 . . I tell you: I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now
on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom.

And also visible to the naked eye.

Acts 1:11 . . Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This
Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the
same way as you have watched him go into heaven.

Rev 1:7 . . Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see
him, even those who pierced him.
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John 6:53 . . Jesus said: "Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the
flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you."

John 6:54 . . .Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life,

John 6:50-51a . . This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a
man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down
from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever.


FAQ: Does any of the above apply to Old Testament personages, e.g. Able, Noah,
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joshua. Ruth, Gideon, Samson, and David, et al?


A: Yes; all of them.

FAQ: How do you know that?

A: Jesus' crucifixion benefits the whole world rather than only a portion of
the world.

John 6:51b . . the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.

1John 2:2 . . He himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours
only, but also for the whole world.

John 1:29 . . Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!


FAQ: Did they even know about Jesus back then?

A: Abraham knew.

John 8:56 . . Abraham rejoiced to see my day, and he saw it and was glad.

Jacob knew.

Gen 49:18 . .I have waited for thy salvation, O Lord

Isaiah knew.

Isa 52:14 . .There were many who were appalled at him-- his appearance
was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond
human likeness

Isa 53:6 . .We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his
own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Others among the prophets knew too.

1Pet 1:10-11 . . Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched
diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in
them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and
the glory that should follow.

David knew.

Ps 16:10 . .You will not abandon me to the grave, nor will you let your Holy
One see decay. (cf. Acts 2:25-36)


FAQ: Well, if there was no such thing as a communion service until Jesus'
last supper, then how did those people back there eat his flesh and drink his
blood?


A: Hook, line, and sinker; if you get my drift. For example:

Many years ago, when I was a young welder just starting out in the trade, a
Baptist man employed by the same company for whom I worked; asked me
if I was going to heaven. Of course I replied that I didn't know: I was a
Catholic, and Catholics don't know things like that. Then he asked me the
question that put my life on a whole new track: Haven't you heard that
Christ died for you?

Of course I had heard of Christ's crucifixion in catechism, but not till that
moment did I realize it was so personal, and especially; so complete.

Coincidentally, I had only recently been doing some serious thinking about
hell. The way I figured it; this kid would never be good enough to merit
going to heaven, so hell was pretty much a foregone conclusion for the likes
of me. But the very moment that man's question sank into my thick skull; I
instantly knew that heaven was in the bag. I had swallowed the story about
the offering of Jesus' flesh and blood for my sins hook, line, and sinker.

Some may call me naïve for so easily buying into Jesus' dying for my sins,
but I don't feel naïve; no, I feel very fortunate.

Mark 10:15 . . I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom
of God like a little child will never enter it.
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I did not agree with you those men were Catholics.

As stated more than once the Catholic Church did not exist before 335 . Those men lived before 335.
Hi CoreIssue,

You and your Protestant friends disagree on this. You should all get on the same page.

Mary
 

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According to John 10:28, eternal life is an imperishable kind of life. In other
words; people have to obtain it only once, and they never have to obtain it
again because eternal life cannot die, nor does it spoil or decay. Were that
not true, then God would've died of old age long ago.
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that is "Immortal," not Eternal, sorry, and I already know from past experience that you are not interested in the Scriptural difference and will not engage, so have a nice day
 

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Like Catholics and Orthodox disagree?
You and your protestant friends disagree on when the CC came into existence. You and some of your ilk say in the year 325.

Some of your protestant friends say the CC began in the 1st Century and the men of it were the false prophets that are spoken of in Scripture.

Soooooo how does that have anything to do with Catholics and Orthodox disagreeing on the primacy of the Bishop of Rome and some minor doctrinal issues? It doesn't.....You question has NOTHING to do with the subject at hand. Care to try again??

You and your protestant friends should get together and figure what the truth is since it has escaped you in both historical and Scriptural matters.

Mary
 

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According to 1Cor 15:50, flesh and blood is barred access to the kingdom of
God, which tells me that the design of Jesus' glorious body is very different
Wadr that is bc you are reading with two eyes ok, and that is surely not what that is saying, but rather "flesh and blood thinking..."