USA attacks Venezuela, captures President Nicolás Maduro and his wife

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Wrangler

Well-Known Member
Feb 14, 2021
20,731
8,987
113
57
Shining City on a Hill
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
US on the brink to become an imperialist nation itself, supported without any shame by persons like you.

Not surprising that you don't respond ON POINT to my reply, e.g., the 6 greatest accomplishments where pride, not shame, should be felt!

Your opinion.


America has been an imperial power damn near 2 centuries. Ask the native savages.

Why in the world should I feel shame for being part of the greatest culture and nation that ever was? We’re better, measurably better in almost every way!
  1. Greatest # of inventions.
  2. Greatest economy.
  3. Greatest military.
  4. Greatest hospitals.
  5. Greatest universities.
  6. Greatest achievement in human history: going to the moon.
Odd how a country with only 5% of the population offers the world’s currency reserve. Sure, we aren’t perfect but damn; I’m proud to be an American and proud as can be of my President, Donald J Trump. Shame? What shame?
 

ProDeo

Well-Known Member
Nov 20, 2024
1,813
1,503
113
51
Deventer
Faith
Christian
Country
Netherlands
Not surprising that you don't respond ON POINT to my reply, e.g., the 6 greatest accomplishments where pride, not shame, should be felt!

The topic was Greenland, America on the brink of becoming an imperialist nation itself.

I said, the arrogance of might.

You replied with, the privilege of might.

That pretty much sums up your mindset.

And it wasn't the mindset of your founding fathers.

Let alone the mindset of Christ, I don't think I need to quote Scripture for that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: amigo de christo

Wrangler

Well-Known Member
Feb 14, 2021
20,731
8,987
113
57
Shining City on a Hill
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
And it wasn't the mindset of your founding fathers.
You are all over the place. I was addressing
your supposing I should feel shame for being part of the greatest nation ever.

FYI, the rag tag FF broke away from an empire. Their lives preceded America’s ascension to empire.

Let alone the mindset of Christ, I don't think I need to quote Scripture for that.

I do. Give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. These words of Christ support the Roman Empire, specifically and any government, generally.
 

ProDeo

Well-Known Member
Nov 20, 2024
1,813
1,503
113
51
Deventer
Faith
Christian
Country
Netherlands
When Jesus returns He is going to forcibly take over the entire world!

He's going to rule with a hand of iron

Absolutely.

Because of : Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. [Rev 22:15]

It should not be about us, His elect.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Wrangler

ProDeo

Well-Known Member
Nov 20, 2024
1,813
1,503
113
51
Deventer
Faith
Christian
Country
Netherlands
I do. Give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. These words of Christ support the Roman Empire, specifically and any government, generally.

That would be a poor understanding what Jesus meant, for instance :

John 8:23 He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.

And regarding the self declared divine Caesar cult :

Code:
Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic 
fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows 
the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and 
the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the 
citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader 
and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.
-- Julius Caesar

And about mixing patriotism and politics :

Code:
"Patriotism, like religion, meets people's need for something greater to which their
individual lives can be anchored ... America's state religion, [is] patriotism, a
phenomenon which has convinced many of the citizenry that "treason" is morally worse
than murder or rape "
-- William Blum, author of Killing Hope
 

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
8,132
4,016
113
65
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Absolutely.

Because of : Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. [Rev 22:15]

It should not be about us, His elect.
The elect ? I thought that the Bible points out that they are also lead astray ?

Who are the elect nowadays ? any Christian denomination ? I think not ! for they clearly practices falsehood and Idolise and clearly preaching to be sexualy immoral dogs. not to mention murderers.
 

Wrangler

Well-Known Member
Feb 14, 2021
20,731
8,987
113
57
Shining City on a Hill
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
That would be a poor understanding what Jesus meant, for instance :

Nope. It PERFECTLY expresses what Jesus meant.

John 8:23 He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
Do you notice he said we are from this world? Totally consistent with give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. You’re obviously overly spiritualized to not give soulful needs their due.
 

ProDeo

Well-Known Member
Nov 20, 2024
1,813
1,503
113
51
Deventer
Faith
Christian
Country
Netherlands
The elect ? I thought that the Bible points out that they are also lead astray ?

Who are the elect nowadays ? any Christian denomination ? I think not ! for they clearly practices falsehood and Idolise and clearly preaching to be sexualy immoral dogs. not to mention murderers.

The elect don't do these things you mention above.

1Petr 2:8 and “A stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.
1Petr 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.
1Petr 2:10 Once you were not a people, but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
1Petr 2:11 Beloved, I urge you as sojourners and exiles to abstain from the passions of the flesh, which wage war against your soul.
1Petr 2:12 Keep your conduct among the Gentiles honorable, so that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visitation.
 

Eternally Grateful

Well-Known Member
Feb 27, 2020
19,704
10,426
113
60
Columbus, ohio
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Someone in Minneapolis told me ICE was there to arrest an illegal sex offender.


Officer on the side of the car is mostly blocking the officer in front of the car. Officer in front is the one who got hit.


Wow...the second video shows a closeup of her and her wife harassing the officers. And then you actually hear her car hit the officer!!! This video should be played on the mainstream news...but I doubt it.
It wont. because they need to hide the truth
 

Big Boy Johnson

Well-Known Member
Sep 28, 2023
6,328
2,311
113
North America
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The elect don't do these things you mention above.

And in these last days many of the so called "elect" are turning away from the Lord and are lost

1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

*A person cannot depart from the faith is they were never in the faith begin with
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reggie Belafonte

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
8,132
4,016
113
65
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Most people have no idea in regards such.

Australia has a oil that is no good for making roads or engine oil and it's high in sulphur.
When found in QLD such could run a low compression petrol car back in the days on it, right out of the ground.

I pointed out that Australian Oil is crap to a mate and he went on a spastic rant, that it was the best in the world ! and that Australia should only use our own oil !
HAHA what a total fool, They blend different oils from different areas, so as to make other products better !