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2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? - Romans 6:2.

How can God take away something that you are already dead to. I'm not saying that Christian's don't sin or have struggles, but when he died you died, the old man is dead and it was the old man that caused your trouble. It was never your body, it was never your mind (except for allowing it), it was the old man and the old man is dead now. Crucified with Christ on Calvary and now the only problem in life a believer will ever have is; they don't know it. Aww so if they don't know it it is a mind problem now for believers. Did you get that, it is your mind now that is causing you the same trouble you had when you were not a believer. It is the mind of the believer now that will be your trouble maker.

We have numerous scriptures that talk about being complete in spirit, and one in spirit with the Lord, and being a finished product in Christ. But the rest of your bible is going to deal with your mind. Soul and spirit divided, you must divide soul and spirit to be able to understand your bible. You have to see what is complete, and what is being completed and scriptures are very clear, it is not hard to divide soul and spirit but you have to learn how to do it.

So you see he died for sin once and for all, when I say "God take this from me" what am I saying? I'm saying the cross didn't work and I need you to do something else. What is it that causes so many to struggle all their days practically? They don't know what happened to them at the cross. We look for another answer, first; because alot of the time a believer may have never heard the cross preached as their death. That will be trouble because all they will ever know is self effort, so they might as well be living under law because they have nothing to live for, you can usally spot them because they look dead, no life. The life that is in you is dormant, Christ needs your mind to live. You need to know something for Christ to live simply as your creation, coming out of you as you, as life.
 

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Addressing the OP, good topic, not saying that you are right or wrong here, but consider this.
Romans 6:6 "Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." yes the body of sin is destroyed, but listen to the next few verses,

Romans 6:7 "For he that is dead is freed from sin."
Romans 6:8 "Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:"
Romans 6:9 "Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him."
Romans 6:10 "For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God."

NOW the crunch, or the catcher...
Romans 6:11 "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord."

HOLD IT, STOP THE PRESS. if you're dead.... how can you reckon, or consider yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin? good question, because the DEAD knows NOTHING. Now, Now, Now, lets see the solution.

Romans 6:12 "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof." BINGO, let is an ACT of the will.
Romans 6:13 "Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God." (Every Christian need to re-read those verses)

Romans 6:14 "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."

ACT LIKE YOU ARE DEAD TO SIN. how?, "Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin", answer, I don't go to the same places I use to go to.

"Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin", answer, I don't curse, or used fowl language that I used to do.

"Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin", answer, I don't take anything that is not mine anymore.

LET is an act of the will based on your new BELIEFS, a change of LIE. "I look at my habds and they look new, my feet they are new, ect... ).

you're very much alive, but body is dead but not the spirit, the Prophet, and king, David said it best, Psalms 51:10 "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me."

YE HAVE NOT BECAUSE YE ASK NOT.

Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;"

there is one's victory.... God himself.

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ACT LIKE YOU ARE DEAD TO SIN. how?, "Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin", answer, I don't go to the same places I use to go to.

Thanks for commenting, enjoyed it. My quote would be 'self effort in not doing something to be something.' Not saying I would disagree with not going to same old places but what does that do for someone's understanding not to do what they used to do? Just curious. Someone doing or not doing is really not what's at subject. Trying to deal with a "knowing" knowledge of what has happened to believers. What believers know and understand is what keeps them, thanks for the great comment.
 

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Adam died and you died with him (all in Adam dead in Christ). Christ lives and you live with him (the only life there is is Christ, Adam had no life of his own). The life Adam had was death/life and that was not even his life, it didn't come from Adam he received a life when he fell. He was created a living soul with everything he got coming from God as his source in his first state (all outer).
 

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Adam died and you died with him (all in Adam dead in Christ). Christ lives and you live with him (the only life there is is Christ, Adam had no life of his own). The life Adam had was death/life and that was not even his life, it didn't come from Adam he received a life when he fell. He was created a living soul with everything he got coming from God as his source in his first state (all outer).
this is what "REDEMPTION" is all about.

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