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Peterlag

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And they were all listed in the potential adverse effects. 1 adverse reaction is too many, but medicines come with risks. And given that america has received over 1,000,000,000 doses have been administered, the odds of contracting the serious effects are minimal. Once again, someone thinking of the shot should consult with their PCP to determine the risks vs. the benefit.

I take your medical knowledge in more respect than what you have shown me so far of your bible knowledge. But then again you have declared on this forum you think I may not even be saved so that says it all about your "knowledge".

In California it's against the law to ask your doctor for their take on the Covid vaccine.
 

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Robert W Malone, MD

mRNA Vaccines in Livestock and Companion Animals are here now. The current (public) receipts are included in this essay, and more are on the way.

 

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Very sad. At first, my attitude to all the vaccinated people developing health problems was "feh, we tried to warn them, and they tried to get us fired, some of them were calling for concentration camps, so let them learn a harsh lesson", but a lot of people are suffering because they had no choice, for their job or because they were afraid, and children who had no choice in the matter are getting sick too. May God be with them all.
 

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What are more precise words?

In Brief:
I prefer to stick with Scriptural words, and know what they mean..and use their meaning to describe, rather than what people secularly/ generally think those words mean.
For example:

Walking BY or IN Christ.... IN
New creature or new person...creature.
Christian or Converted in Christ....Converted in Christ
Spirit crucified or body crucified...body
Jesus A human or Likeness AS a Human....likeness AS
Man A god or Likeness AS God....likeness AS

Jesus is the word of God. Gods Word is God. Gods Word Is in God, comes Forth out from Gods Mouth, yet remains in God....and mankind
Was created in that same likeness.
(Difference is...every word that comes forth out of Gods Mouth is True...not so with man.)
Why? God is all knowing, man is not.

God IS Spirit. Man Has a spirit.
God Has what we are told is 7 Spirits, for our ability to understand.
7 Spirits ( but yet are the Same 1 Spirit )...
So what’s up with the 7 Spirits?
We are informed of the “categories”, (So To Speak) of what the 7 Spirits of God functionally DO...and when God “gives a man” one or more of a particular of His 7 Spirits, that man is thus “prepared” to serve God, according to the Spirit that man has received.
...Spirit
Of The Lord,
Of wisdom,
Of understanding,
Of counsel,
Of power,
Of knowledge,
Of fear of the Lord

With all the discussions, debates, agreements, disagreements....between and amongst men who know one another, and men who do not know one another, such as on a social media forum...easy to grasp, not every individual (Believers, Saved, not Saved) receives the Same of the 7 Spirits of God.

Receiving the Spirit OF the Lord...is precisely the Spirit of Truth ( Gods Truth ), Which is Gods Word, Which is called by the Name Jesus, Who IS the Christ, Whom IS the all knowing Spirit, Power, Wisdom, Seed, Quickener.

By, Through, Of Him...is a man, able to become MADE to be on the receiving end of any of Gods 7 Spirits.
Gods Truth, Knowledge, Wisdom, ability to understand, teach, counsel, discern, etc.

A Person is a Living Earthly man with a soul IN him.
Bodily dead men are no longer called persons.
Physically dead bodies are called, the deceased, cadavers, by name, by description of relationship...dad, daughter, cousin...call passed away, called loved one...
Men bury dead body’s.
Men do not bury persons.
Men do not bury souls.
Living Souls depart dead body’s .
Living souls...saved? Return to God, Wait with God, for judgement.
Living souls...unsaved? Sent to Hell, wait without God, for judgement.

All souls, belong to God.
Life IN all souls belongs to God...
A soul IN a mans living body....is called by that mans name.
Inanutshell, that man, (ie the formed body), having received a soul from God, By default becomes the “caretaker” OF that soul in his body.
And oops...all natural born body’s of men are naturally born IN sin...(against God....don’t know of Him, know Him, believe in Him...are Against Him)
Because IF one is Not With Him, by default they are against Him.
And that soul in a corrupt body thus becomes corrupt.
The offering By, Through, Of Gods “offering” For saving of the soul, by, through, of RESTORATION....is by, through, of Christ.

We shall receive new bodies....
That is Future.
Restored / saved souls....and Quickened Born Again spirits of are Bodily Living IN Jesus’ Risen Body...and why they are called... IN Christ.
And called “Christ IN them, because His Spirit of Truth is IN (their new circumcised heart)...

Just saying there is a precise Order and Way of God which applies to each individual man....and All men....with, or in, or without the Lord God....Hear, Learn, At Different stages and amounts and Scriptural topics per their individual lives...and receive different specific Spirits of God....which in my opinion using general terms outside of Scripture can lead to assumptions of two being in agreement or disagreement.

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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In Brief:
I prefer to stick with Scriptural words, and know what they mean..and use their meaning to describe, rather than what people secularly/ generally think those words mean.
For example:

Walking BY or IN Christ.... IN
New creature or new person...creature.
Christian or Converted in Christ....Converted in Christ
Spirit crucified or body crucified...body
Jesus A human or Likeness AS a Human....likeness AS
Man A god or Likeness AS God....likeness AS

Jesus is the word of God. Gods Word is God. Gods Word Is in God, comes Forth out from Gods Mouth, yet remains in God....and mankind
Was created in that same likeness.
(Difference is...every word that comes forth out of Gods Mouth is True...not so with man.)
Why? God is all knowing, man is not.

God IS Spirit. Man Has a spirit.
God Has what we are told is 7 Spirits, for our ability to understand.
7 Spirits ( but yet are the Same 1 Spirit )...
So what’s up with the 7 Spirits?
We are informed of the “categories”, (So To Speak) of what the 7 Spirits of God functionally DO...and when God “gives a man” one or more of a particular of His 7 Spirits, that man is thus “prepared” to serve God, according to the Spirit that man has received.
...Spirit
Of The Lord,
Of wisdom,
Of understanding,
Of counsel,
Of power,
Of knowledge,
Of fear of the Lord

With all the discussions, debates, agreements, disagreements....between and amongst men who know one another, and men who do not know one another, such as on a social media forum...easy to grasp, not every individual (Believers, Saved, not Saved) receives the Same of the 7 Spirits of God.

Receiving the Spirit OF the Lord...is precisely the Spirit of Truth ( Gods Truth ), Which is Gods Word, Which is called by the Name Jesus, Who IS the Christ, Whom IS the all knowing Spirit, Power, Wisdom, Seed, Quickener.

By, Through, Of Him...is a man, able to become MADE to be on the receiving end of any of Gods 7 Spirits.
Gods Truth, Knowledge, Wisdom, ability to understand, teach, counsel, discern, etc.

A Person is a Living Earthly man with a soul IN him.
Bodily dead men are no longer called persons.
Physically dead bodies are called, the deceased, cadavers, by name, by description of relationship...dad, daughter, cousin...call passed away, called loved one...
Men bury dead body’s.
Men do not bury persons.
Men do not bury souls.
Living Souls depart dead body’s .
Living souls...saved? Return to God, Wait with God, for judgement.
Living souls...unsaved? Sent to Hell, wait without God, for judgement.

All souls, belong to God.
Life IN all souls belongs to God...
A soul IN a mans living body....is called by that mans name.
Inanutshell, that man, (ie the formed body), having received a soul from God, By default becomes the “caretaker” OF that soul in his body.
And oops...all natural born body’s of men are naturally born IN sin...(against God....don’t know of Him, know Him, believe in Him...are Against Him)
Because IF one is Not With Him, by default they are against Him.
And that soul in a corrupt body thus becomes corrupt.
The offering By, Through, Of Gods “offering” For saving of the soul, by, through, of RESTORATION....is by, through, of Christ.

We shall receive new bodies....
That is Future.
Restored / saved souls....and Quickened Born Again spirits of are Bodily Living IN Jesus’ Risen Body...and why they are called... IN Christ.
And called “Christ IN them, because His Spirit of Truth is IN (their new circumcised heart)...

Just saying there is a precise Order and Way of God which applies to each individual man....and All men....with, or in, or without the Lord God....Hear, Learn, At Different stages and amounts and Scriptural topics per their individual lives...and receive different specific Spirits of God....which in my opinion using general terms outside of Scripture can lead to assumptions of two being in agreement or disagreement.

Glory to God,
Taken

What part of my one page website is not using Scripture words? Is it in this first paragraph...

In Romans 8:4, it's suggesting we walk after or by this spirit. In Romans 8:9, it calls this spirit the spirit of Christ. In Romans 8:11, it calls this spirit the spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead and that it dwells in us. In 1 Corinthians 3:16, it calls it the spirit of God that dwells in us. In Galatians 4:6, it's called the spirit of his son. And in Galatians 5:16, it talks about walking in this spirit.

www.carb-fat.com/spirit.html
 
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We will soon be eating DNA altered, sickened animals from the same mRNA jabs contributing to the 'Died Suddenly' pandemic... '

 

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Very sad. At first, my attitude to all the vaccinated people developing health problems was "feh, we tried to warn them, and they tried to get us fired, some of them were calling for concentration camps, so let them learn a harsh lesson", but a lot of people are suffering because they had no choice, for their job or because they were afraid, and children who had no choice in the matter are getting sick too. May God be with them all.


While true, it's very sad that people were forced into making difficult choices, they were choices nonetheless. With rare exceptions where people were physically held down and injected against their will, everyone else took it willingly. Didn't they?

Many of the choices were horrible. Lose your livelihood or take the shot. Lose your ability to travel, or participate in society, or take the shot. Become an outcast or take the shot. Play along with the charade, or face the consequences. And the consequences were severe. It didn't matter who you were-- rich or poor, free or slave-- without the shot, you were not allowed in the marketplace of ideas.

My own brother had to choose between taking the shot, or giving up the right to attend his son's wedding. That's how deep the deception dug into hearts.
 
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Sure.

Acts 5:
[29] Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Romans 13

King James Version

13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

The only time we are allowed to disobey human authority is when they seek to get us to disobey God.
 

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Well that is the law and is not about the efficaciousness or danger of the shot. 2 totally differing subjects
And you don't see a problem here with the subject of the Covid vaccine...

The AB-2098, the “physician misinformation bill” goes into effect as law in California. Physicians can no longer communicate nuanced risk about mRNA COVID vaccines to their patients without potentially having their licenses revoked.
 

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While true, it's very sad that people were forced into making difficult choices, they were choices nonetheless. With rare exceptions where people were physically held down and injected against their will, everyone else took it willingly. Didn't they?

Many of the choices were horrible. Lose your livelihood or take the shot. Lose your ability to travel, or participate in society, or take the shot. Become an outcast or take the shot. Play along with the charade, or face the consequences. And the consequences were severe. It didn't matter who you were-- rich or poor, free or slave-- without the shot, you were not allowed in the marketplace of ideas.

My own brother had to choose between taking the shot, or giving up the right to attend his son's wedding. That's how deep the deception dug into hearts.

This is all very true. But then there's the other side of the coin. The wife who willing took the shots and made the husbands life miserable because he would not. Accusing him all day long that he was going to kill her.
 
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And you don't see a problem here with the subject of the Covid vaccine...

The AB-2098, the “physician misinformation bill” goes into effect as law in California. Physicians can no longer communicate nuanced risk about mRNA COVID vaccines to their patients without potentially having their licenses revoked.

wELL i HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THE SHOT AND ALL TEH ALLEGATIONS SURROUNDING IT. tALKING ABOUT TEH POLITICS SURROUNDING IT IS ANOTHER TOPIC FOR ANOTHER THREAD.

iF YOU WANT TO START A NEW THREAD TALKING ABOUT TEH GROSS ABUSE IN THE POLITICS OF THE SHOT, i WOULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH NEARLY EVERYTHING YOU SAY.
 

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While true, it's very sad that people were forced into making difficult choices, they were choices nonetheless. With rare exceptions where people were physically held down and injected against their will, everyone else took it willingly. Didn't they?

Many of the choices were horrible. Lose your livelihood or take the shot. Lose your ability to travel, or participate in society, or take the shot. Become an outcast or take the shot. Play along with the charade, or face the consequences. And the consequences were severe. It didn't matter who you were-- rich or poor, free or slave-- without the shot, you were not allowed in the marketplace of ideas.

My own brother had to choose between taking the shot, or giving up the right to attend his son's wedding. That's how deep the deception dug into hearts.
If everyone just said "No, I won't take it", do you think the powers that be could have done what they wanted with everyone and carried out all their threats? They would have had to give in. It is because the majority of people were willing to cave in to force that an example could be made of the people who didn't; and the less people that rebelled, the more severe that example can be made of the few that did. By refusing to become part of the mob, you can be made to suffer, but you lighten the suffering of another.
 
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If everyone just said "No, I won't take it", do you think the powers that be could have done what they wanted with everyone and carried out all their threats? They would have had to give in. It is because the majority of people were willing to cave in to force that an example could be made of the people who didn't; and the less people that rebelled, the more severe that example can be made of the few that did. By refusing to become part of the mob, you can be made to suffer, but you lighten the suffering of another.
And what would that have solved? Would tens of millions of deaths world wide from un protected people prove a point we are free?

Yes the shot has several and nasty dangers associated with it? But so very few of you stop and think of the lives those shots have saved.

Yes lives were lost- just like with flu shots and pneumonia shots, but those numbers are small in comparison to the numbers who would have died if teh drug companies did nothing.
 

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If everyone just said "No, I won't take it", do you think the powers that be could have done what they wanted with everyone and carried out all their threats? They would have had to give in. It is because the majority of people were willing to cave in to force that an example could be made of the people who didn't; and the less people that rebelled, the more severe that example can be made of the few that did. By refusing to become part of the mob, you can be made to suffer, but you lighten the suffering of another.

Yes, that's right. It was a power-play, pure and simple. A compliance test.

They weaponized fear and folks fell in line. Churches included-- it was the saddest experiment in human history.
 
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Would tens of millions of deaths world wide from un protected people prove a point we are free?
My parents, who are 70 years old and have all sorts of health problems, caught covid and recovered in a week without any complications or risks (unvaccinated).

My wife and I never got it, never got sick, despite attending weddings and all sorts of public events (unvaccinated).

My niece, who basically doesn't have a functioning liver due to severe alcoholism, takes the bus everywhere and never got sick during the pandemic (unvaccinated).

My in-laws, 70s, BOTH got cancer the same year after taking the vaccine. One of them died.

My close friend, early 30s, no health problems, runs daily, can no longer run because he got heart damage from the vaccine. His wife is unvaccinated, never got sick, but can't find work due to all jobs in her field requiring vaccinations.

My elderly friend and his wife, both developed severe nervous system issues since getting every shot and every booster.

My toddler daughter is unvaccinated and never got sick, but she is teething and I can't find any children's motrin in the entire country because children everywhere are developing health problems and parents are clearing the shelves of children's medicines.

I am basically a hermit and know like a dozen people, so you understand, these odds don't seem that amazing for me if almost everyone I know who has taken it have gotten severely ill, while everyone who didn't take it got through the pandemic without any problems at all.