Was Pope John Paul II wrong to kiss the Koran?

[BreadOfLife]

Let me know when you're ready for the answer . . .

 

[kcnalp]

So, did Luther have faith when he tried to remove several Books, including James, Jude Hebrews and Revelation?
Why did you follow his doctrines - but NOT his canon of Scripture?

Why are you so concerned about Luther. I'm not. Read the Bible.

 

[kcnalp]

So, in order for a person to have faith - they have to agree with YOU?
Is that how God counts faith?

Nope.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nope.

So, once again - WHO told you that the 27 Books of the NT were Scripture?
The Bible itself doesn't tell us - so where did you learn this?.

 

[kcnalp]

So, once again - WHO told you that the 27 Books of the NT were Scripture?
The Bible itself doesn't tell us - so where did you learn this?.

Already answered. #78

 

[BreadOfLife]

Already answered.

No - you haven't.
You said that you "read" the Bible and that's how you know.

That's why I asked you if people HAVE to agree with YOU in order to have faith, as YOU indicated.
Why can't you just be honest? Your Protestant Fathers Luther and Calvin were honest about it.

 

[kcnalp]

No - you haven't.
You said that you "read" the Bible and that's how you know.

Quote me where I said that.

That's why I asked you if people HAVE to agree with YOU in order to have faith, as YOU indicated.
Why can't you just be honest? Your Protestant Fathers Luther and Calvin were honest about it.

God is my Father, not Luther or Calvin.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Already answered. #78

I'll ask this differently, then.

WHO told you that Scripture Alone (Sola Scriptura) was Biblical?
That's NOT in the Bible.

WHO told you that Faith Alone (Sola Fide)was Biblical?
That's NOT in the Bible either. In fact - the ONLY place in ALL of Scripture where this phrase is found is in James 2:23, where it explicitly states:
James 2:24
You see that a person is justified by works and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.

I'll wait right here for your answer . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Quote me where I said that..

YOUR words from post #76:
"I didn't need anyone to tell me the Bible is Scripture. I read it myself. Now who told you?"

Consider yourself exposed . . .

 

[kcnalp]

I'll ask this differently, then.

WHO told you that Scripture Alone (Sola Scriptura) was Biblical?
That's NOT in the Bible.

Nobody. I read the Bible. Try it.

WHO told you that Faith Alone (Sola Fide)was Biblical?
That's NOT in the Bible either. In fact - the ONLY place in ALL of Scripture where this phrase is found is in James 2:23, where it explicitly states:
James 2:24
You see that a person is justified by works and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.

I'll wait right here for your answer . . .

I don't have a problem with the Christian. Obviously you do.

 

[kcnalp]

YOUR words from post #76:
"I didn't need anyone to tell me the Bible is Scripture. I read it myself. Now who told you?"

Consider yourself exposed . . .

It was your accusation. Provide the quote.
Your accusation: "You said that you "read" the Bible and that's how you KNOW."

 

[kcnalp]

YOUR words from post #76:
"I didn't need anyone to tell me the Bible is Scripture. I read it myself. Now who told you?"

Consider yourself exposed . . .

Your accusation: "You said that you "read" the Bible and that's how you KNOW."

 

[BreadOfLife]

It was your accusation. Provide the quote.
Your accusation: "You said that you "read" the Bible and that's how you KNOW."

You are the very definition of a dishonest person.
I just NAILED you with your OWN words - and you're STILL denying it.

Unbelievable . . .

 

[kcnalp]

You are the very definition of a dishonest person.
I just NAILED you with your OWN words - and you're STILL denying it.

Unbelievable . . .

Where did I say "I KNOW"?
Your accusation: "You said that you "read" the Bible and that's how you KNOW."

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nobody. I read the Bible. Try it.

Really?

Show me the verse that talks about "Scripture Alone".
While you're at it - show me the verse that talks about "Faith alone"
CAN you do that?

Chapter nd Verse, please . . .

 

[kcnalp]

Really?

Show me the verse that talks about "Scripture Alone".

So you're looking for an excuse to add to our Christian Bible?

While you're at it - show me the verse that talks about "Faith alone"
CAN you do that?

Chapter nd Verse, please . . .

When did I say "Faith alone"? You keep making false accusations against me!

 

[BreadOfLife]

Where did I say "I KNOW"?
Your accusation: "You said that you "read" the Bible and that's how you KNOW."

In post #76 - I asked YOU the following question:
"Now - WHO told YOU that it was canonical?"

YOU responded with:
"I didn't need anyone to tell me the Bible is Scripture. I read it myself. Now who told you?"

Your dishonesty is matched ONLY by your ignorance . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

So you're looking for an excuse to add to our Christian Bible?

When did I say "Faith alone"? You keep making false accusations!

Sooooo, you can't show me ANY proof for Scripture Alone or Faith Alone.

WHY then, do you adhere to this nonsense?

 

[kcnalp]

In post #76 - I asked YOU the following question:
"Now - WHO told YOU that it was canonical?"

YOU responded with:
"I didn't need anyone to tell me the Bible is Scripture. I read it myself. Now who told you?"

Your dishonesty is matched ONLY by your ignorance . . .

You have FALSELY accused me twice.

 

[BreadOfLife]

When did I say "Faith alone"? You keep making false accusations against me!

Are you saying that you reject the Protestant pillar of salvation by Faith Alone?
Can I quote you on that??