Was the election of Donald Trump inevitable?

[Hobie]

or some might even consider he was placed there for a purpose. Was Hillary Clinton a greater danger than even Donald Trump?

I came across a video which I could not believe and yet I am finding it has more truth than I would have imagined.

"Book says Hillary talks to dead"
CNN - Book says Hillary talks to dead - June 22, 1996

"Hillary Clinton ‘Communes’ with the Spirit of Eleanor Roosevelt"
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hi...anor-roosevelt

Hillary was all but set to be elected as President according to the pollsters, the pundits, the newscasts and other news sources, and yet something happened to turn aside what appeared to a unstoppable assured victory. How could it have happened? Was the last minute rise of Donald Trump a diversion of something even more than we knew?

The corruption was well known, but Bill and Hillary's corruption was not the only issue, there was more below the surface...

FAMOUS FREEMASONS

Spiritualism and freemasonry, were we in peril even worse than one would have thought?

 

[Willie T]

Well, he has been the most honest president we have had in years. Maybe God was tired of all the lying that went on in Washington.

 

[CoreIssue]

The last great Pres. was Reagan.

Different times so hard to say which is superior.

Worse president in my years was Obama.

Also bad were Clinton and Carter.

Rhinos pretending to be conservative were the Bushes.

 

[ScottA]

I am convinced that all would like to think they have power and have been the cause of great things, that what we imagine could be craft or magic, is mostly divine dumb luck.

"Jesus answered, "You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above."

 

[Vince]

Rhinos pretending to be conservative were the Bushes.

Trump has been doing what conservatives have been wanting for a long time. He is dragging the establishment republicans along with him. He does not seem to care about the deficit though.

 

[CoreIssue]

Trump has been doing what conservatives have been wanting for a long time. He is dragging the establishment republicans along with him. He does not seem to care about the deficit though.

The deficit is an issue.

But the truth is Democrats want to spend more and they don't care about the deficit.

Sometimes government has to pay for things even if they don't have the money in the bank.

I had to deal with it when I was in office. Just cannot pretend certain requirements and needs do not exist or can be postponed.

 

[Vince]

The deficit is an issue.

But the truth is Democrats want to spend more and they don't care about the deficit.

Sometimes government has to pay for things even if they don't have the money in the bank.

I had to deal with it when I was in office. Just cannot pretend certain requirements and needs do not exist or can be postponed.

I agree. But the federal budget never gets talked about or examined. I downloaded the federal budget and started looking at it. Unless we radically change social security and military spending there is really no way to not deficit spend. This will never happen. If the federal government only spent on things that it is constitutionally mandated, we would not be in this situation. But that idea has left the barn.

I think that if we actually implemented what it would take to pay off the debt over 50 years the country would revolt.

 

[CoreIssue]

I agree. But the federal budget never gets talked about or examined. I downloaded the federal budget and started looking at it. Unless we radically change social security and military spending there is really no way to not deficit spend. This will never happen. If the federal government only spent on things that it is constitutionally mandated, we would not be in this situation. But that idea has left the barn.

I think that if we actually implemented what it would take to pay off the debt over 50 years the country would revolt.

I hear it being talked about. But I don't see any good plans to fix it.

I understand government finances better than most on this forum having served in two elected offices.

I see some hints of things in the right direction as in repurposing money instead of just adding more more more.

I don't think you thought this through. As a vet and student of history every time the military has been weakened we ended up fighting serious wars that we were forced into.

As for Social Security how do you propose seniors live if you cut what they pay for. I paid in for 50 years. Do you think I'm just going to throw my hands up in the air and say oh well?

You want to help Social Security, remove benefits from able-bodied workers that refuse to work and pay in. Take illegals off the roll. Stop paying for things like abortion and sex change operations.

Get rid of it law of the liberals instituted programs that spend money with no benefit.

Reform the tax code. The IRS could be completely or almost completely eliminated while collecting tax fairly. Using such as sales tax based collections.

Locally, eliminate the archaic property tax. It discourages homeownership and creates burdens on people that cost the taxpayers via assistance programs.

Why are the taxpayers paying for things like PBS?

I pushed to reform recreation provided by the city went on Council. My reforms saved $10 million a year on an ongoing basis while improving recreation.

So yes, there are things that can be done but they have to be done smartly. Just look at California and New York to see what is not smart.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The Talmud whore is the real power that controls the whole show anyway regardless of Party and that sticks out like dogs balls.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I agree. But the federal budget never gets talked about or examined. I downloaded the federal budget and started looking at it. Unless we radically change social security and military spending there is really no way to not deficit spend. This will never happen. If the federal government only spent on things that it is constitutionally mandated, we would not be in this situation. But that idea has left the barn.

I think that if we actually implemented what it would take to pay off the debt over 50 years the country would revolt.

Look at what Hitler did he turned the Nation around in how many years ? from 200% inflation and how much in debt were they in todays value of the US Dollar and population ect ? work that out ! was it's predicament as bad as the USA is nowadays ?
Hitler turned that situation around, to go on to be such a power house that they had to be attacked, England's future position as leading control over all Europe as such was to be finished economically, when you see the charts that they had worked out and their was no way that they could compete with such efficiency that Hitler's mob had.
When one looks into this the more astounded one becomes and then to conduct a war as he did, just the bunkers that were built alone is unbelievable and they are still not pointing all such out.

USA can and does have he ability to turn it's pathetic situation around if only they had the will to do so. but the problem is that the Talmud who control the USA want it that way for their own ends and the people are following along like puppy dogs happy with their master treating them like a dog and having no fortitude worthy of being a human.
The USA got into that position because it's governments were willing to go into that position. they were tempted into doing such, they have no excuse at all for it at all. the people have been deceived by cunning degenerate rat bags, that are much like a body (Nation) having the pox or dying of AIDS. The proof is in the pudding, Satan is a play in it all, tempting undermining the people both body and soul.
Satanist control the USA and they are kicking the middle working class around to pay for all the dogs sponging off them and the real wealthy are not paying enough tax and getting way richer and living in a bubble drinking a $1000 bottle of wine and not to mention look down on the middle working class. it's the same in Australia I know the type well, they have no morals and expect all to look up to them and follow their degenerate ways with no class.

 

[Vince]

I hear it being talked about. But I don't see any good plans to fix it.

I understand government finances better than most on this forum having served in two elected offices.

I see some hints of things in the right direction as in repurposing money instead of just adding more more more.

I don't think you thought this through. As a vet and student of history every time the military has been weakened we ended up fighting serious wars that we were forced into.

As for Social Security how do you propose seniors live if you cut what they pay for. I paid in for 50 years. Do you think I'm just going to throw my hands up in the air and say oh well?

I never said to cut them. I said we cannot eliminate the deficit without cutting them in my opinion.

You want to help Social Security, remove benefits from able-bodied workers that refuse to work and pay in. Take illegals off the roll. Stop paying for things like abortion and sex change operations.

Can you quantify this number?

Get rid of it law of the liberals instituted programs that spend money with no benefit.

How much would this reduce the deficit?

Reform the tax code. The IRS could be completely or almost completely eliminated while collecting tax fairly. Using such as sales tax based collections.

Again, how much would this save?

Locally, eliminate the archaic property tax. It discourages homeownership and creates burdens on people that cost the taxpayers via assistance programs.

Why are we talking about local taxes? What bearing does this have on the federal deficit? Also, what is the mechanism in which you would fund public schools? Where I live it is about 50% state funds and 50% property taxes.

Why are the taxpayers paying for things like PBS?

I agree this should be eliminated. I think it is only $500 million though.

So yes, there are things that can be done but they have to be done smartly. Just look at California and New York to see what is not smart.

I don't think these would do much to reduce the deficit. The current budget has SS, Medicare and Medicade at $2.1 Trillion, Defense at $642 billion. These two constitute 67% of the budget. The total deficit is 25% of the budget. So we need to cut defense and mandatory programs to eliminate the deficit or collect more taxes.

 

[Hobie]

Look at what Hitler did he turned the Nation around in how many years ? from 200% inflation and how much in debt were they in todays value of the US Dollar and population ect ? work that out ! was it's predicament as bad as the USA is nowadays ?
Hitler turned that situation around, to go on to be such a power house that they had to be attacked, England's future position as leading control over all Europe as such was to be finished economically, when you see the charts that they had worked out and their was no way that they could compete with such efficiency that Hitler's mob had.
When one looks into this the more astounded one becomes and then to conduct a war as he did, just the bunkers that were built alone is unbelievable and they are still not pointing all such out.

USA can and does have he ability to turn it's pathetic situation around if only they had the will to do so. but the problem is that the Talmud who control the USA want it that way for their own ends and the people are following along like puppy dogs happy with their master treating them like a dog and having no fortitude worthy of being a human.
The USA got into that position because it's governments were willing to go into that position. they were tempted into doing such, they have no excuse at all for it at all. the people have been deceived by cunning degenerate rat bags, that are much like a body (Nation) having the pox or dying of AIDS. The proof is in the pudding, Satan is a play in it all, tempting undermining the people both body and soul.
Satanist control the USA and they are kicking the middle working class around to pay for all the dogs sponging off them and the real wealthy are not paying enough tax and getting way richer and living in a bubble drinking a $1000 bottle of wine and not to mention look down on the middle working class. it's the same in Australia I know the type well, they have no morals and expect all to look up to them and follow their degenerate ways with no class.

I don't think dictatorship is the answer, much less wiping out millions...

You have to understand what made the Roman Empire fall, they were so busy fighting among themselves they weren't able to stand against the enemies coming up against them.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I don't think dictatorship is the answer, much less wiping out millions...

You have to understand what made the Roman Empire fall, they were so busy fighting among themselves they weren't able to stand against the enemies coming up against them.

Yes Rome was so corrupt, it was like it had a Cancer within, full of degenerates Sodomites etc, they were like rats, filthy as and you do not want to have anything to do with such people because it's just so infectious.
Our Nations are heading down a path to destruction and it's way out of control, that one can see that there is no hope for them.

The problem is that the left and the wealthy far right are heading towards a path towards a dictatorship state, they are sowing the seeds of such.

They and especially the Greens are even openly saying to wipe out most of the population with their Agenda 21 and the media does not respond at all to such.
Looks like the majority of people don't have an issue with the prospects of such and I do wonder why that is the case ? that people will turn a deaf ear to such but make waves about some Jew that killed 50 people in NZ of late and to give them a 2 minute silence when they only give our War people who were fighting for our freedoms and were killed only one minute Silence. I find that odd.

Why are some mob talking about wiping out more than half the worlds population, not to mention having have meetings about such every year with people all over the world coming together to talk about such, but the Media are not allowed to sit in and report what such Satanic mob are truly saying to the rest of the world, some of the most wealthy people are going their.
Why does the Media not do the job they claim to be, it's because they are apart of the same and owned by such truly Satanic people and I believe such has to be the case.

If the Media came out warning the people that their is a group of such truly trying to be planning to wipe out most of the population and with the ways and means that have been tabled at such meetings, what would the people do ?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

What if the people were informed before WW2 that this war is to kill 6 million Jews and 60 million Goyim, well the fact is that their were warnings before this crap happened.
Do the media truly go on ranting always about the 60 million goyim that were killed, no ! but they are still ranting about the 6 million Jews as if it was yesterday. but the Talmud Jews planed this 6 million Jews to be killed years in advance, that number had been mentioned in the papers for years before it happened in fact and it was created because the Talmud Jews feared the true Jews were a threat in Germany, because the true Jews knew the workings of the Talmud Satanist and could point them out for what they truly were and that's why Hitler the Talmud Satanist Jew got rid of all the Jewish newspaper company's and only Talmud Zionist Jewish Papers were allowed to print their Nazi Socialist crap, because they were like joined at the hip, both are Anti-Christ Satanic Socialist as a mater of fact and the way that they play the game is a work of art.
I remember just offhand one of Columbo shows BLUEPRINT FOR MURDER where the killer was under the eye of Columbo and Columbo admits to him that the police are not that smart, but that when it comes to a murderer that kills once or a few times they make mistakes, now professional murderers don't or they cover their tracks that well that you can not convict them. but a detective has a nose for such things and years of experience counts for a lot.

Columbo gets this dude in the end the way he did it was just fantastic and I think it's one of his best ever.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

It was not blueprint for murder it is called Preschiption Murder.

 

[tooldtocare]

I believe trump believes the only sure way to stay in office in 2020 is for the USA to be at war since no President has ever lost an election during war time.

Believe me, if Trump believes he can stay in office if we are at war, he will get us in a war; does Iran come to mind?

 

[CoreIssue]

I believe trump believes the only sure way to stay in office in 2020 is for the USA to be at war since no President has ever lost an election during war time.

Believe me, if Trump believes he can stay in office if we are at war, he will get us in a war; does Iran come to mind?

Spoken like a true liberal

 

[tooldtocare]

Spoken like a true liberal

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I've heard that term a lot as well as liberal and conservative

Do they really have a meaning or are they just nice curse words?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I agree. But the federal budget never gets talked about or examined. I downloaded the federal budget and started looking at it. Unless we radically change social security and military spending there is really no way to not deficit spend. This will never happen. If the federal government only spent on things that it is constitutionally mandated, we would not be in this situation. But that idea has left the barn.

I think that if we actually implemented what it would take to pay off the debt over 50 years the country would revolt.

How is the USA going to pay off the debt ? or is their another wheel that is not looked at, like a War ! then they can wipe the slate clean, or play out another game.

All nations look to be foolish nowadays and just have put debt in the too hard basket, we in the State of QLD were living in fear of the debt but now no one cares less about such at all, as it does not even be mentioned in the last election, the socialist believe in huge debt being a good thing, they peddle this rubbish in the schools and Uni's full on and they throw huge amounts of money into stupid things and not to mention that not one person in the Socialist left Party's has ever ran a business themselves, so no wonder they are off with the pixies.

Hitler was the only Socialist who turned a Nation around from total disaster and powered on, to scare the whole world with it's efficiency that the UK could never compete with, so England knew the game was up for the UK leading Europe, they even showed graphs of the years to come that they were done for before they wanted to create the war.

The whole world is just a game played out from a handful of extremely wealthy men who control the whole world, people like Trump and any Leader of any Nation are just as a puppet on Strings and they play the people with mind control tactics, leading them astray the only force that can expose them is true Christianity and that is why true Christianity is under attack on all sides.
Satan means the one who leads the whole world astray. so nothing is going to become better in the world until people have Jesus in their heart, other than that one is lost to Sin and Satan rules over all. we can see such in their works nowadays.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The UK made out that Poland was the excuse for the war, but if one truly looks into all this you will see that it's total BS, no one could be so stupid to use that as an excuse truly to kill 70 million people etc not to mention was it worth it, oh Poland's political mob were insane, what was the big deal with the Germans servicing East Prussia, oh no but the UK were totally happy for East Prussia to be treated like it was, such was a disaster for the people in East Prussia for years and it all could of been avoided if the UK was serious about it's roll in being a watch dog and did the right thing by the East Prussian people, let alone the hell that came from it on the poor Polish people. it was due to political madness and it need not to be at all, but for the madness of bastards who hide in the shadows that are happy to expose the people to such hellfire.
Hitler was a creation a puppet when one can see the big picture and it all comes together as to why when you know where to look.

My Grand dad was a aristocrat and he knew and pointed the game out for what it truly was and said that a persons life was not worth 2 cents during the war and I remember him telling people about the war when he came to Australia in the 60's. he knew about the war much better than anyone by far and when the years went by he was proven correct, things would be exposed about the war in the media and my brother and I would say remember that old bastard grand dad was correct about that, not to mention everything that he said was correct and not to mention where the world is heading, he predicted it but we did not want to believe it back then and no one I knew liked him, because he spoke the truth and would cut anyone down to size, I seen many old people try to challenge him on the subject but he just wiped the floor with them and they did not like that at all.

Socialism and Communism was just a creation that people followed just like cattle. it's a nonsense and Capitalism has been bastardised by bastards, just as Christianity has been bastardised by bastards. it's all in the game of leading all astray.