WATCH!

[WPM]

1) your claim is half the world is taken in a wicked man pretrib rapture.
2) Jesus immediately says, TO HIS FLOCK, to watch and be ready.
3) you are claiming that the wicked population of the planet is told to watch and be ready.
4) your doctrinal pivot off of "carcase " is what you do with every postribber smoking gun
5) 50% of a group leaving is so destructive to your deal...you should have come up with something different to minimize the damage.

It is flat out laughable.
You are claiming a pretrib rapture of wicked people to an immediate judgement before the flood. (Before the 7yr trib.) And insist only half the planet's population is wicked
Then spew warnings to me personally

Crazy and lame.


( you jettison 5 verses and think a word definition voids those 5 verses.)

That is why , when shown how utterly foolish your interpretation is , you run from those verses.

Luke 17
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

There you have 2 ANALOGIES BY JESUS.
WHO IS GATHERED PRETRIB in both analogies.????
Wicked people??????????
You change the BOTH ANALOGIES and act like you are honestly attempting understanding?????
In the example of Lot ,you have, in your imagination, wicked people are taken and lot stays???????
What group is banging on the door of the ark.
Cue drum roll....those left behind , THAT DID NOT GET GATHERED PREFLOOD.

Your deal is so busted it is laughable.

Please answer these questions:

• How many wicked survived in Noah's day?
• How many wicked survived in Sodom?

After all, this is the actual subject that Christ is speaking of.

 

[WPM]

You dance around the surrounding verses.
One taken, one left.
50 % of the world is wicked, and 50% born again?
Ok, so we know that is impossible.
Ahem...making your "interpretation" impossible.

No brainer.
But that is why you will not address it.

I show you how off you are.
Then you claim the liar label to Jesus.
Get honest about it.
You look like a fool.

It is a parable. It is an earthly story representing spiritual truth. They are not spiritual virgins. They are natural virgins in the story. It is not the oil of the Holy Spirit. It is natural oil. But it has a spiritual meaning.

Most end-time commentators correctly relate this passage to the coming of Christ. Whilst we cannot find any mention of phrases like “caught up” or “gathering together” in this text there is broad agreement that there is a definite reference to the catching away or rescue of the saints in the direction “go ye out” and the resulting action – they “went in.”

The command “go ye out” is simply one Greek word exerchomai meaning depart, escape, or get out, go. The phrase describing the response of the faithful “went in” is the single Greek word eiserchomai normally translated in the New Testament as to ‘come in’ or ‘to enter’. It can also be interpreted ‘to arise’. In keeping with many second coming passages there is an allusion to those who escape the judgment of God as being those who made themselves “ready.” This is a common theme found in regard to the catching away. It certainly correlates with the consistent portrayal of this impending climactic event. This passage is basically a call for preparedness for Christ’s coming.

The parable of the virgins actually agrees totally with the climactic nature of the coming of Christ. Men are either caught up or caught on. Being ready means rescue, being locked outside means destruction. Interpreting Scripture with Scripture would assist you here. As in Noah’s day, “the door was shut” – the day of opportunity was final closed – and those left outside were totally destroyed.

The solemn side of this parable is the awful plight of the five foolish virgins who had no oil in their lamps. Like the wicked that were left in Noah’s day, the religious will cry when it is too late: “Lord, Lord, open to us.” The only problem is it is too late. The solemn cry will come from the Master, “Verily I say unto you, I know you not” (vv 11-12). This is exactly what Jesus says to the wicked at the final judgment. He isn't saying: ‘welcome to a 7 year tribulation period’ or ‘welcome to the Premil millennium for another chance’. Sadly, they are damned and doomed for all eternity.

In this parable, Jesus rejects the unprepared virgins. In Pretrib theology it does not have Jesus finally shutting the door (as He taught), but, rather, leaving it ajar. It gives the foolish virgins a second chance to make it, despite them being unprepared and despite them having rejected numerous opportunities before He comes they miss the boat.

 

[Scott Downey]

It is a parable. It is an earthly story representing spiritual truth. They are not spiritual virgins. They are natural virgins in the story. It is not the oil of the Holy Spirit. It is natural oil. But it has a spiritual meaning.

Most end-time commentators correctly relate this passage to the coming of Christ. Whilst we cannot find any mention of phrases like “caught up” or “gathering together” in this text there is broad agreement that there is a definite reference to the catching away or rescue of the saints in the direction “go ye out” and the resulting action – they “went in.”

The command “go ye out” is simply one Greek word exerchomai meaning depart, escape, or get out, go. The phrase describing the response of the faithful “went in” is the single Greek word eiserchomai normally translated in the New Testament as to ‘come in’ or ‘to enter’. It can also be interpreted ‘to arise’. In keeping with many second coming passages there is an allusion to those who escape the judgment of God as being those who made themselves “ready.” This is a common theme found in regard to the catching away. It certainly correlates with the consistent portrayal of this impending climactic event. This passage is basically a call for preparedness for Christ’s coming.

The parable of the virgins actually agrees totally with the climactic nature of the coming of Christ. Men are either caught up or caught on. Being ready means rescue, being locked outside means destruction. Interpreting Scripture with Scripture would assist you here. As in Noah’s day, “the door was shut” – the day of opportunity was final closed – and those left outside were totally destroyed.

The solemn side of this parable is the awful plight of the five foolish virgins who had no oil in their lamps. Like the wicked that were left in Noah’s day, the religious will cry when it is too late: “Lord, Lord, open to us.” The only problem is it is too late. The solemn cry will come from the Master, “Verily I say unto you, I know you not” (vv 11-12). This is exactly what Jesus says to the wicked at the final judgment. He isn't saying: ‘welcome to a 7 year tribulation period’ or ‘welcome to the Premil millennium for another chance’. Sadly, they are damned and doomed for all eternity.

In this parable, Jesus rejects the unprepared virgins. In Pretrib theology it does not have Jesus finally shutting the door (as He taught), but, rather, leaving it ajar. It gives the foolish virgins a second chance to make it, despite them being unprepared and despite them having rejected numerous opportunities before He comes they miss the boat.

Those virgins were not prepared for the bridegroom.
It is a parable.
So it is an illustration of truth.
Jesus tells this story as a way of explanation for what will happen to those who are not watching, waiting and ready for His coming.
Those five virgins who could not enter in were deficient, lacking, and so they missed Christ
After Christ returns, those who are deficient, are not worthy, they will not inherit the kingdom of God, they are cast out of His kingdom.

Matthew 7:21
“Not every one that saith unto Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, but he that doeth the will of My Father who is in Heaven.

@rebuilder 454 trying to make something from nothing, while missing the real doctrine Jesus was teaching.
What clinches this is what Christ says here

11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us!’

12 But he answered and said, ‘Verily I say unto you, I know you not.’

13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of Man cometh.

 

[Scott Downey]

This nails the application of Christ's teaching regarding those five virgins.
Quoting Matthew 25:11–13 right back at them exposes the fatal flaw in trying to invent a second chance or an extended earthly grace period after Christ appears!

When the door is shut, the foolish virgins cry out "Lord, Lord, open to us!" but receive the terrifying response: "Verily I say unto you, I know you not."

It completely annihilates the idea that billions of unregenerate, unprepared mortals will just hang around on earth for a millennium after He returns. The parable locks in the reality of eternal separation happening the exact moment the Bridegroom arrives, reinforcing that readiness must happen before that Day arrives.

 

[ewq1938]

This nails the application of Christ's teaching regarding those five virgins.
Quoting Matthew 25:11–13 right back at them exposes the fatal flaw in trying to invent a second chance or an extended earthly grace period after Christ appears!

When the door is shut, the foolish virgins cry out "Lord, Lord, open to us!" but receive the terrifying response: "Verily I say unto you, I know you not."

It completely annihilates the idea that billions of unregenerate, unprepared mortals will just hang around on earth for a millennium after He returns. \

No, it doesn't. These will be those Rev 19 says will be ruled over (future tense verb) after Armageddon is over.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite (Aorist tense verb with PRESENT tense meaning) the nations: and he shall rule (FUTURE tense verb) them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth (PRESENT tense verb) the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

https://www.blueletterbible .org/kjv/rev/19/15/t_conc_1186015

https://biblehub .com/interlinear/revelation/19-15.htm

(remove the spaces before .com and .org in the two links)


Here rule/poimaino is in the FUTURE tense meaning it will happen at some point AFTER the second coming and battle of Armageddon while treadeth/pateo is written in the PRESENT tense meaning it is happening during this second coming. The treading and smiting are happening at Armageddon but not the ruling which proves some mortals will be alive after Armageddon is over. This proves the Premill position because indeed there is a future rule of people who were not slain during the second coming that Christ and his saints will rule over.