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No it isn't. When our flesh is returned to dust, our spirits are still alive and fresh as ever! We will be reunited with our bodies one day and they will be changed, glorified bodies, but our spirits, where God dwells in us and communes with us and impregnates us with dreams and with life-changing truth and promises, lives forever!
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Ok, as long as you are acknowledging that we are spirit + body. Some people forget the body - like christian science and other gnostics. Sorry justanane I was responding to livelystone using your post
The Bible teaching a bodily resurrection.
Absolutely not. To understand the body, soul (mind) and spirit composition of human beings doesn't mean we throw out biblical truth. There will be a bodily resurrection as promised.
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I never said the image of God goes to the dust with the body. That image is the very connection to God agreed. My point being as a tree has roots, branches, and leaves. So a human being has a spirit, soul, and body.
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Yeah, I know - I accidently thought your post was from lively stone and responded to her based on our ongoing conversation - sorry about that - just disregard my post.
You are refusing to recognize that the word soul means spirit + body.
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See also: Soul in the Bible
The Christian view of the soul is based upon the teaching of both the Old Testament and New Testament. The Old Testament contains the statements "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it" (Ecclesiastes 12:7) and "And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7). In the New Testament can be found a statement by Paul the Apostle, "And so it is written, the first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit." (1 Corinthians 15:45).
The soul is the seat of the mind, will and emotions in the human. It is his personality, his personhood, what makes him unique from everyone else. It isn't part of the spirit, but it is the next outer layer, the spirit being the innermost---but it connects with the spirit, where the body doesn't. When a person dies, his spirit and soul leave the body.
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
I like this explanation:
WHAT ARE THE ORIGINS OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT AND SOUL AND BODY?
"Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being (soul)." (Gen 2:7).
The human body was formed by God "of dust from the ground." God gave spirit to the human being when He "breathed into his nostrils the breath of life". When God formed the body of the human from dust and imparted life to him by "breathing (a spirit) into his nostrils", "man became a living soul". The body is God-formed. The spirit is God-given. With these gifts, man becomes a unique living soul.
That the body is formed of the elements of the earth (dust) is confirmed by Old Testament passages. "By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, because from it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return." (Gen 3:19). "All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust." (Eccl 3:20). The Apostle Paul tells us that our fleshly bodies belong to a "humble state" (or "lowly" or "vile" state). (Phil 3:21). This suggests that the body is composed of different more "humble" elements (such as the dust of the ground) than other parts such as spirit and soul.
That man's spirit was given to him by God is also indicated in Old and New Testament passages. "Thus declares the Lord who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him." (Zech 12:1). "The spirit will return to God who gave it." (Eccl 12:7). "He jealously desires the spirit which He has made to dwell in us." (James 4:5).
The original meaning of the word spirit in both Old Testament Hebrew and New Testament Greek was "breath" or "wind", a figure of speech illustrating the fact that it is that which was bequeathed to, "breathed into", man by God. (Gen 2:7).
Human beings, therefore, have both body and spirit. But the human characteristic is more than just body and spirit, but is called soul. Human beings are living souls. Hence the Bible often calls man soul. For example, when Jacob went down into Egypt with his family, the Bible tells us that "all the persons (souls) of the house of Jacob, who came to Egypt, were seventy." (Gen 46:27). All those who had received the gospel message from Peter on the day of Pentecost were baptized and "there were added that day about three thousand souls." (Acts 2:41).
Apparently the word soul stands for the unique human personality, that which makes him mankind. Thus, "the first man, Adam, became a living soul." (1 Cor 15:45).
For more:
http://faithhopelove.net/SpiritandSoulandBody.html
WHAT ARE THE ORIGINS OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT AND SOUL AND BODY?
"Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being (soul)." (Gen 2:7).
The human body was formed by God "of dust from the ground." God gave spirit to the human being when He "breathed into his nostrils the breath of life". When God formed the body of the human from dust and imparted life to him by "breathing (a spirit) into his nostrils", "man became a living soul". The body is God-formed. The spirit is God-given. With these gifts, man becomes a unique living soul.
That the body is formed of the elements of the earth (dust) is confirmed by Old Testament passages. "By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, because from it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return." (Gen 3:19). "All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust." (Eccl 3:20). The Apostle Paul tells us that our fleshly bodies belong to a "humble state" (or "lowly" or "vile" state). (Phil 3:21). This suggests that the body is composed of different more "humble" elements (such as the dust of the ground) than other parts such as spirit and soul.
That man's spirit was given to him by God is also indicated in Old and New Testament passages. "Thus declares the Lord who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him." (Zech 12:1). "The spirit will return to God who gave it." (Eccl 12:7). "He jealously desires the spirit which He has made to dwell in us." (James 4:5).
The original meaning of the word spirit in both Old Testament Hebrew and New Testament Greek was "breath" or "wind", a figure of speech illustrating the fact that it is that which was bequeathed to, "breathed into", man by God. (Gen 2:7).
Human beings, therefore, have both body and spirit. But the human characteristic is more than just body and spirit, but is called soul. Human beings are living souls. Hence the Bible often calls man soul. For example, when Jacob went down into Egypt with his family, the Bible tells us that "all the persons (souls) of the house of Jacob, who came to Egypt, were seventy." (Gen 46:27). All those who had received the gospel message from Peter on the day of Pentecost were baptized and "there were added that day about three thousand souls." (Acts 2:41).
Apparently the word soul stands for the unique human personality, that which makes him mankind. Thus, "the first man, Adam, became a living soul." (1 Cor 15:45).
For more:
http://faithhopelove.net/SpiritandSoulandBody.html
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
I agree with the post you just posted. I think it is a good explanation of what I have been trying to say. Spirit + Body = Soul. How does it support your idea that we are made of a spirit, soul and body?
I am glad you see that. Perhaps I was misinterpreting what you think the soul is. I can see that you also understand that it is the personhood of the individual.
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
This is the second time we have worked through misunderstandings and realized that we actually agree. I am really glad we can keep talking without allowing frustration to derail the conversation. It goes to show that these message boards can be poor methods of communicating.
Hi Aspen, what is the difference between we are spirit, we have a soul and we live in a body and spirit + body = soul ?
The soul decides what spirit will have control. What we set our affections on will influence the flavour of what we are and what we do. We are to be salt on this earth. We are to have an eternal taste about us. We are to be the preservative of this world.
We are not our bodies, nor our spirits...we are a living soul with a mind, heart and a will.
Of course a soul does not know all the choices that are possible in the world. That is why we must preach the gospel of truth. This provides another option for the soul to be guided by the Holy Spirit...and live!!!
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Well this is ultimately an issue of semantics, but I think the difference is that we ARE a soul made up of body and spirit. This distinction serves two purposes:
1. It recognizes that Plato and Jewish writers had different definitions of the word soul.
2. It clearly defines the difference between 'soul' and 'spirit'. I think when we mix spirit and soul together and then claim that they are both related, but somehow separate and both inside us, it get confusing.
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Thanks for listening to my point of view
Where is my rep point? I made a terrific contribution by not saying anything.
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