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MatthewG

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Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
Acts 13:39 and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses.
Romans 5:1-3 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we also have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we celebrate in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only this, but we also celebrate in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance;​

What are your thoughts about Christ being the end of the law for righteousness? What does that mean for us as believers in Christ?

What are your thoughts about believing on Jesus Christ; which makes us free from all things?

What are your thoughts on being justified by faith?

What are you thoughts on having peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ?

What are your thoughts on the Hope that of the glory of God because of the grace in which we stand now because of faith?

What are your thoughts about even celebrating that of our own tribulation life experiences, knowing that tribulations brings about perseverance?
 

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The Law of Moses, the Ten Commandments, had to be kept with willpower of a nature that was opposed to the Law. Romans 7:13.

Jesus places His own Spirit inside us that gives us a nature like His that is aligned with the eternal law of God because He has written then on our heart. 1 John 3:5-9

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It is what it is, we are saved by grace through faith. Being justified by Christ, the curse of the law was removed, "The wages of sin is death...For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 6:23). The law required righteousness, and we are still inspired to be righteous, but its no longer a prerequisite to inherit eternal life. Someone else was perfectly righteous and paid the price for our sakes, we are now washed from sin via the blood of the Lamb of God.
 
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It is what it is, we are saved by grace through faith. Being justified by Christ, the curse of the law was removed, "The wages of sin is death...For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 6:23). The law required righteousness, and we are still inspired to be righteous, but its no longer a prerequisite to inherit eternal life. Someone else was perfectly righteous and paid the price for our sakes, we are now washed from sin via the blood of the Lamb of God.

Of course righteousness is still required. Revelation 22:11. But not the old fashioned way of memorizing a law that was in opposition to your nature. Jesus put a different nature inside us that was already righteous because the laws of God are written on our heart and we are perfectly aligned to it as long as we walk in the Spirit He gave us. Romans 8:1-9 NKJV, not modern versions
 
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MatthewG

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Dan57 and Charasmasticlady,

I would agree it is the seed of God within us that grows from a spiritual child to a mature spiritual adult when we live and worship God in spirit and in truth. By reading the word and being renewed in our mind.

No we can not be self righteous; because nothing we do truly amounts to what Jesus Christ done.

As believers it is the spirit of Christ with in us and the good that is done by and through faith is always going to be accredited to God. Because Good comes from God by and through the spirit of Christ with in us. :)
 

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What are your thoughts about Christ being the end of the law for righteousness? What does that mean for us as believers in Christ?
There were many Jews who believed that doing the works of the Law would establish their righteousness. But that was not true. Therefore Paul made it clear that because of who Christ is and because of His finished work of redemption, He is indeed the end of "the Law for righteousness". The Law (the Ten Commandments) establishes the guilt of every human being. Therefore it is necessary to be justified (declared righteous) by grace through faith. At which point God imputes the righteousness of Christ to the one who believes. Thus salvation is by grace through faith + nothing. Therefore the converted sinner has peace with God THROUGH our Lord Jesus Christ.
What are your thoughts about believing on Jesus Christ; which makes us free from all things?
Believing on the Lord Jesus Christ means repentance toward God and absolute faith in Christ for our salvation. And those who are saved by grace are delivered from Hell and from themselves and their sins through the New Birth. The one who has been born again is a new creature in Christ, and the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit enables him or her to walk in the Spirit and reject the sins and works of "the flesh" (the sin nature).
What are your thoughts on the Hope that of the glory of God because of the grace in which we stand now because of faith?
This is a reference to the perfection and glorification of the saints. Those who have been justified must also be sanctified and glorified. And sanctification means working out your salvation with fear and trembling.
What are your thoughts about even celebrating that of our own tribulation life experiences, knowing that tribulations brings about perseverance?
It is not a matter of celebration but of patient endurance.
 
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Dan57 and Charasmasticlady,

I would agree it is the seed of God within us that grows from a spiritual child to a mature spiritual adult when we live and worship God in spirit and in truth. By reading the word and being renewed in our mind.

No we can not be self righteous; because nothing we do truly amounts to what Jesus Christ done.

As believers it is the spirit of Christ with in us and the good that is done by and through faith is always going to be accredited to God. Because Good comes from God by and through the spirit of Christ with in us. :)

Just to clarify: Self-righteous would be our willpower keeping the written law that we are opposed to. Righteousness through Christ is the new nature gifted to us empowered by the Holy Spirit. That is all Him.
 
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I agree with you there CharismaticLady: Self-righteousness in living accordance to the law actually can kill people if they are to live that way; leading to spiritual death.

Why? What does the law cause that leads to spiritual death?

The sin of judgement towards others, the sin of condemnation towards others in accordance to other people not living up to the standard of the Law written on stone. It can kill a person trying to live by those rules instead of living by Christ Jesus who sets us free and allows the spirit of God to move in us as we live by the spirit of Christ Jesus with-in us. (Galatians 2:20)

Would anyone else like to share their thoughts on the scriptures shared in the original post?
 

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The Law (the Ten Commandments) establishes the guilt of every human being. Therefore it is necessary to be justified (declared righteous) by grace through faith. At which point God imputes the righteousness of Christ to the one who believes. Thus salvation is by grace through faith + nothing. Therefore the converted sinner has peace with God THROUGH our Lord Jesus Christ.

The one who has been born again is a new creature in Christ, and the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit enables him or her to walk in the Spirit and reject the sins and works of "the flesh" (the sin nature).

Here is why we seldom agree. You usually only put the imputed righteousness of paragraph one, but not the truth of paragraph two. Righteousness had to be imputed to Abraham, but not to us. Abraham's imputed righteousness had nothing to do with Jesus, just obedience and trust in God. Then centuries later Jesus died for us. We HAVE Jesus' Spirit within us, making us truly righteous, it is not just an invisibility cloak of imputed righteousness.
 

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The common idea among Romanists is that Paul said that Christ's sacrifice replaced any obligation for keeping God's commandments in Rom. 10:4. This is an easily disprovable lie for at least 4 very specific reasons:

1) Luk. 23:56 shows the women who followed Christ keeping the Sabbath "according to the commandment" days after Christ died. And according to what Heb. 9:16-17 clearly teaches, the New Covenant was established the moment Christ died. Therefore, there is no biblical basis to assume Paul was saying Christ replaced the obligation of keeping God's laws.

2) The Greek word "telos" that is commonly translated as "the end" in KJV bibles means "goal/purpose". The message Paul conveying is not "Christ replaced the obligation of law-keeping"as opposed to "Christ became the standard of law-keeping that Christians are supposed to strive towards". The latter message is a lot more consistent with what he said in Rom. 13:9, what Peter said(1 Pet. 2:21), what John said( 1 Jhn 2:6, 3:23), and what Christ Himself said(Jhn 13:15, 34). Again, there is no biblical basis to assume Paul taught that Christ replaced the obligation of law-keeping.

3) Christ plainly stated in Matt. 5:17 that He did not come to diminish or abolish any part of the Law's authority as opposed to showing the level of law-keeping that was expected from future followers like Isa. 42:21 prophesied. And since that prophecy(and Christ's own teachings) says He would set the standard for future followers, there is no biblical basis to believe God's laws stopped being important after Christ's death.

4) The idea that Paul taught that Christ replaced the obligation of law-keeping contradicts Paul's own pro-law statements in passages like Rom. 2:13, 3:31, 7:12, 22, , 1 Cor. 7:19, and Acts 24:14. It also contradicts Acts consistently showing Paul keeping all of the commanded Holy Days after his conversion. It also contradicts 1 Cor. 5 where Paul reminded the Corinthians to keep the Passover and ULB Holy Days properly and with the right attitude. Again, there is no biblical basis to assume Paul said Christ replaced the obligation to keep God's laws.

A major stumbling block for Romanists is that they fail to understand what justification is, how it works, the context of Paul's teachings about what it means to be justified, and its symbiotic relationship with law-keeping. It is because of this that they incessantly talk about believing in the "finished work" of Christ with 0 knowledge or understanding of the fact that Christ's work was only the beginning of God's master plan for humanity. A person is indeed made just with God by believing in Christ's sacrifice. That's why Paul was crystal clear in stating that this part of the process is separate from law-keeping(Rom. 3:27-28), that forgiveness cannot be earned by any amount of law-keeping(Eph. 2:8-9), and that forgiveness cannot be earned with law-keeping because the law's only purpose is to define moral behavior(Rom. 3:20). After receiving forgiveness however, the Christian can only remain in the justified state through keeping God's laws. When the Christian sins, they are back at square 1 in needing Christ's sacrifice to bring them back into the justified state again. Understanding this process should be extremely easy for anyone professing Christianity to understand.

Romanists tend to erroneously believe Paul and James disagreed with each other about what it means to be justified, and so they don't believe there is any possibility that that they simply don't understand the concept of justification. It especially suits Protestants to subscribe to the "no works" theology because literally all of its adherents possess the same hostility towards God's laws that the radical Dems' have towards the U.S. Constitution, even if they won't admit it to themselves.

The whole context behind the teaching throughout Rom. 10 is that the Orthodox Jews foolishly cast aside God's commandments to establish their own counterfeit brand of righteousness(like Christ repeatedly told them in the Gospel accounts), and Romanists have done the same thing over the past 1900 years because they refuse to learn from history or God.
 

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For those who teach that keeping the commandments is not necessary, please see the following and notice the commandments that are listed there and what happens to those who practice those sins:

1 Cor 6:9-10 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor homosexual offenders, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were.

Also, see this scripture as well, so you know exactly what Christ says about it:

Matthew 19:16

Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

Seems to me anyone who calls themselves a Christian would follow what Christ says, and not men, and there it is, clear as a bell. And of course we will stray from time to time, and need to ask forgiveness, but if we practice sin, we got a serious problem.

See, these "faith only" people seem to forget who they have faith in, and that if we have faith in Christ, doing as he says is part of that faith. But instead they seem to want to define "faith" as only something we think, or say, and there is no "do" to it. Again the scripture show there is a lot we must do, it's right there in black and white, and how anyone can justify, and even go so far as to teach we need not keep the commandments after seeing what Christ has to say on the matter, is beyond me.

I personally would be frightened to teach such falsehoods.