What Do You Expect??

[ScottA]

“Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38 Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

39 And He spoke a parable to them: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch?"

The above passage is not about money. It's about what you expect being a self-imposed limit, even causing spiritual blindness.

• Do you think the Priests and the Pharisees set a limit on what they expected for the coming of Messiah?
• Do you think the leaders of the Church--whom many have believed and base their own expectations on for the end times--set their own limits?

Best think again.

 

[Writer]

“Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38 Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

39 And He spoke a parable to them: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch?"

The above passage is not about money. It's about what you expect being a self-imposed limit, even causing spiritual blindness.

• Do you think the Priests and the Pharisees set a limit on what the expected for the coming of Messiah?
• Do you think the leaders of the Church--whom many have believed and base their own expectations on for the end times--set their own limits?

Best think again.

We must use balance in all area's of our life. Whether judging, condeming, forgiving or giving. I don't mean limits, I mean balance. On the one hand, Do not Judge; On the other hand, Judge wisely; both are in the bible speaking to us. On the one hand do not condem; on the other hand Paul instructs Titus, as an overseer of the church, to “speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority” (Titus 2:15) implying that we have the authority to do all three in the Church. On the one hand, forgive, On the other hand; without repentance there can be no forgiveness. Be wise as a serpant and as gentle as a dove. We have the authority to seek balance.

One who provides common sense (wisdom) leadership responds with simple truth when questioned. Ronald Regan was asked one day, "Sir, now that you're president, explain your Foreign Policy breifly" Well, he responds, it's simple...We win, they lose. The president has the authority to do what he needs to do to win for the country and it's people. How much more those appointed to be leaders in Christ for their families, their marriages, their church and all that God appointed them to.
















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[MatthewG]

If you had lived during the time Jesus walked the earth—
and heard him say he was coming back—
would you have truly believed him?

Even after seeing him resurrected,
would that have been enough?

What if you had witnessed his miracles firsthand,
walked beside him, heard his teachings—
would you have kept following him?

Or would you have dismissed him as just another overrated figure
people couldn’t stop talking about?

Honestly, if I had lived back then,
I might’ve seen him as a worn-out name, a fading headline.
But today, I don’t see him that way at all.

We see many people leave him, including his friends.

 

[ShineTheLight]

If you had lived during the time Jesus walked the earth—
and heard him say he was coming back—
would you have truly believed him?

Even after seeing him resurrected,
would that have been enough?

What if you had witnessed his miracles firsthand,
walked beside him, heard his teachings—
would you have kept following him?

Or would you have dismissed him as just another overrated figure
people couldn’t stop talking about?

If someone said how the devil isn't real and that he doesn't exist, or that all of prophecy is fulfilled already, I won't believe them. If they teach false doctrine I'll dismiss it.

 

[MatthewG]

If someone said how the devil isn't real and that he doesn't exist, or that all of prophecy is fulfilled already, I won't believe them. If they teach false doctrine I'll dismiss it.

@ShineTheLight

“It’s fine—you do what you will. I’m not here to convince anyone. I rejoice that Christ has already overcome the world (John 16:33), even in the presence of those who refuse to believe it. And yes, that includes the final defeat of Satan, as foretold in Revelation: ‘And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur…’ (Revelation 20:10). That’s settled. I’m at peace with it.


We each carry a different measure of faith (Romans 12:3). Deny it if you must, but the Word speaks for itself. It’s not about believing me—no one should. But I urge you: be encouraged to seek the truth for yourself. ‘Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you’ (Matthew 7:7).

 

[Behold]

If you had lived during the time Jesus walked the earth—
and heard him say he was coming back—
would you have truly believed him?

He spoke those words to people who knew He rose from the Dead.
So, if you were one of them, then you would have believed Him.

 

[MatthewG]

He spoke those words to people who knew He rose from the Dead.
So, if you were one of them, then you would have believed Him.

To be honest, I would struggle to feel any affection toward him. There’s nothing I find desirable or admirable in his character or presence. It reminds me of the prophetic words in Isaiah 53:2—'He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.' Sometimes, what the world esteems is not what God esteems, and vice versa. My reaction may be raw, but it’s rooted in a deeper discernment.

 

[Gottservant]

The unknown encourages us, to set limits on our vulnerability.

Even in Heaven, our doubts can delay the true hope of God.

 

[Writer]

If you had lived during the time Jesus walked the earth—
and heard him say he was coming back—
would you have truly believed him?

Even after seeing him resurrected,
would that have been enough?

What if you had witnessed his miracles firsthand,
walked beside him, heard his teachings—
would you have kept following him?

Or would you have dismissed him as just another overrated figure
people couldn’t stop talking about?

Honestly, if I had lived back then,
I might’ve seen him as a worn-out name, a fading headline.
But today, I don’t see him that way at all.

We see many people leave him, including his friends.

I'm not sure I truly understand your question. I you had lived back then...do you mean as a Jew, a gentile, a born again believer from the future...what?

As a Jew you would have failed to understand Jesus, and not because of ignorance, but because God blinded them. All of them. If they knew who He truly was, who would have rejected Him? Who would have made Him suffer? Who would have been the first to kill Him?

As a gentile of Roman decent, perhaps you would have mocked Him, seeing that Jacob was not in your lineage, and there wasn't anyone in your blood line that God ever spoke to directly or said to him "from this day forward your name shall be called ISRAEL".

Not sure what perspective to take on your question?

 

[soberxp]

“Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38 Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

39 And He spoke a parable to them: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch?"

The above passage is not about money. It's about what you expect being a self-imposed limit, even causing spiritual blindness.

I don't understand what you mean.

• Do you think the Priests and the Pharisees set a limit on what the expected for the coming of Messiah?

I believe that the Jews in the time of Jesus expected God to lead them to defeat the Romans, just as God had led them to defeat the nations that worshiped false gods in the Old Testament. This was the kind of Messiah they were looking forward to.

• Do you think the leaders of the Church--whom many have believed and base their own expectations on for the end times--set their own limits?

Best think again.

I don't know the time of the end, but I do know that this world is heading for destruction. Currently, I can't see even a glimmer of hope. If there's any restriction I've set for myself, it's that I don't want to have descendants, and then one day have to face those future disasters.

 

[MatthewG]

I'm not sure I truly understand your question. \

Im sure those questions could be understood by a child.

 

[soberxp]

We see many people leave him, including his friends.

Jesus Christ laid down his life for his friends. Everyone is his friends.

 

[MatthewG]

Jesus Christ laid down his life for his friends. Everyone is his friends.

Thats not true. Jesus would have lived if that was the case. Don't throw out statements that are like this....


Many people dont even know suffering is involved when it comes to abiding and living in christ.

 

[soberxp]

Thats not true.

You're right, and you're wrong.

15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

 

[MatthewG]

You're right, and you're wrong.

15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

Let’s not stay surface-level. You’re telling me I was wrong, then right, then wrong again—for the same thing? That’s not correction, that’s confusion. And no, I’m not under the influence—unless you mean the Spirit, which leads to truth, not contradiction (John 16:13).







You mentioned Jesus making us friends with God. That’s not just a nice idea—it’s scripture. “I no longer call you servants… I have called you friends” (John 15:15). Through Christ, we’re reconciled to the Father (Romans 5:10–11). That’s not shallow—that’s the deepest kind of peace.







But let’s be real: not everyone cares. Some people couldn’t give a second thought about Jesus, and that’s their choice. Just don’t mistake apathy for wisdom. “The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God” (1 Corinthians 1

 

[soberxp]

Well don't be so shallow. now im right and im wrong when being wrong the first time dude. You arent on any drugs are you?


You know there is a bible verse that talks about how Jesus makes us friends with God?

Not everyone loves or gives a rats rear end about Jesus so do not be so foolish.

Isn't it written that Jesus laid down his life for the sinners?

15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

 

[MatthewG]

Isn't it written that Jesus laid down his life for the sinners?

15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Hey, no hard feelings—I don’t have any issues with you. I’m just choosing not to engage right now.


I’m not looking for opinions or commentary, so I’ll be stepping back from seeing your posts here.


That’s me caring enough to keep things peaceful.

Taking single scriptures just negates real assessment of the whole.

 

[soberxp]

Hey, no hard feelings—I don’t have any issues with you. I’m just choosing not to engage right now.


I’m not looking for opinions or commentary, so I’ll be stepping back from seeing your posts here.


That’s me caring enough to keep things peaceful.

I understand. We just communicate normally. I don't get angry that easily.

Much love in God.

 

[Writer]

Im sure those questions could be understood by a child.

I'm sure you're a master of evading the truth.

 

[MatthewG]

I'm sure you're a master of evading the truth.

Well I'll tell you this.

There is no your truth, or their truth, or my truth, or her truth.

There is truth.

Sometimes I'll lie when it is no ones business concerning their question they ask.

Rahab did that. She was a prostitute too.