soberxp
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Jesus has laid down his life for his friends, but do you admit that the name friend needs to obey his word.
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Our expectations limit us to what we will believe and see when the things of God come in the fulness of time, just as the Priests and Pharisees did not know Christ at His coming, but expected something different.
It's not going to happen that way. What many have believed of the end times is not true. What is true, is that the end comes as the days of Noah--in other words, as what Christ also said, "when you do not expect."
And having been given this truth from God, I can tell you that just as all who are born since Adam came and come in their own time like the grains of sand flowing down in an hourglass--they also likewise return to God since the cross. Which is the Beginning and the End...as the sand began, so shall it stop--the flow begins and then just stops.
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Jesus didnt lay only his life down for his friends.
He laid his life down for the whole world... -.-
You need to be encouraged to stop listening to everyone else and read that bible for yourself and study, you basically still a child too me.
This aint no flex either. It just how I see you.
Jesus didn’t lay down His life just for His friends.
He laid it down for enemies, strangers, rebels, and the whole broken world.
“While we were still sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8).
He didn’t wait for love in return.
He gave Himself freely—“the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29).
“For God so loved the world…” not just the faithful, not just the friendly—the world (John 3:16).
So yes, He called us friends (John 15:13–15),
But He died for far more than friendship.
He died to reconcile all things (Colossians 1:20).
That’s not selective grace.
That’s cosmic mercy.
soberxp
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Ok, you are right.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
In the Chinese Bible it is "environmental earth".
The word of God never change,
If God says so, then it needs to be done.
Cuz the word of God is life, not only about the life of human, but also about the life of earth, the life system of the world.
The Book of Jeremiah
51:13 -18 O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness.
51:18
They are vanity, the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.
Human greed and all non-compliance with God's Word is not just the death of our lives, but the world as dead, Die with our sins, because the land is cursed, as written in Genesis, because of Adam, that's what it means.
Believe it or not, And you can't see that time, not now, not very far, not very near.
But you'll see the result in heaven.
@soberxp,
To fulfill and obey God isn’t about checking every box or perfectly following every command Jesus gave. You won’t be able to do it all—and that’s the point. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). That’s why we believe in Him—because He did everything we couldn’t.
Yes, Jesus gave commandments, and many were directed to Israel, the people He was sent to first. “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24). But later, Paul was commissioned to preach to the Gentiles, to proclaim salvation to the whole world. “I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes… to the Jew first and also to the Greek” (Romans 1:16).
There are layers to salvation—some being “from” wrath, sin, and death; one being “to” eternal life and the Kingdom of God. It’s not a one-size-fits-all formula. It’s a divine mystery unfolding through faith in Yeshua.
So when someone says you have to obey every single word Jesus spoke as if it’s a checklist for salvation—they’re missing the context. Many of His commands were for that generation, that moment, that covenant. “The law was our guardian until Christ came… now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian” (Galatians 3:24–25).
But yes—there are spiritual principles that build us up. When we seek God, abide in Christ, and allow Him to work through us, we grow. “Abide in me, and I in you… apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:4–5). That growth comes through believing in the One God sent (John 6:29), not through striving to be what only He could be.
And yes, we’re called to love our neighbor (Mark 12:31).
But let’s be honest—sometimes that’s hard. Sometimes I don’t want certain people in my life. I let God deal with them, because I can’t be Jesus. I believe in Him because He is the one who loved perfectly—“He loved righteousness and hated wickedness” (Hebrews 1:9). From birth, He loved the Father and mankind with flawless devotion.
That’s why we place our faith in Him. Because through Him, we’re not just called friends—we’re called children of God (John 1:12). And children grow. From immaturity to maturity. From confusion to clarity. From chaos to peace.
So yeah—watch out. Watch out for people on these forums. Watch out for people in the church. Watch out for yourself. “Test everything; hold fast what is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Trust God more than you trust people. And may He give you wisdom to grow in what truly matters—because not everything urgent is important, and not everything loud is true.
To fulfill and obey God isn’t about checking every box or perfectly following every command Jesus gave. You won’t be able to do it all—and that’s the point. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). That’s why we believe in Him—because He did everything we couldn’t.
Yes, Jesus gave commandments, and many were directed to Israel, the people He was sent to first. “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24). But later, Paul was commissioned to preach to the Gentiles, to proclaim salvation to the whole world. “I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes… to the Jew first and also to the Greek” (Romans 1:16).
There are layers to salvation—some being “from” wrath, sin, and death; one being “to” eternal life and the Kingdom of God. It’s not a one-size-fits-all formula. It’s a divine mystery unfolding through faith in Yeshua.
So when someone says you have to obey every single word Jesus spoke as if it’s a checklist for salvation—they’re missing the context. Many of His commands were for that generation, that moment, that covenant. “The law was our guardian until Christ came… now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian” (Galatians 3:24–25).
But yes—there are spiritual principles that build us up. When we seek God, abide in Christ, and allow Him to work through us, we grow. “Abide in me, and I in you… apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:4–5). That growth comes through believing in the One God sent (John 6:29), not through striving to be what only He could be.
And yes, we’re called to love our neighbor (Mark 12:31).
But let’s be honest—sometimes that’s hard. Sometimes I don’t want certain people in my life. I let God deal with them, because I can’t be Jesus. I believe in Him because He is the one who loved perfectly—“He loved righteousness and hated wickedness” (Hebrews 1:9). From birth, He loved the Father and mankind with flawless devotion.
That’s why we place our faith in Him. Because through Him, we’re not just called friends—we’re called children of God (John 1:12). And children grow. From immaturity to maturity. From confusion to clarity. From chaos to peace.
So yeah—watch out. Watch out for people on these forums. Watch out for people in the church. Watch out for yourself. “Test everything; hold fast what is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Trust God more than you trust people. And may He give you wisdom to grow in what truly matters—because not everything urgent is important, and not everything loud is true.
Behold
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Love for Jesus is always shown by devotion and appreciation.
Its impossible for a Christian to realize what Jesus has been through so that we can be forgiven and given eternal life, and not feel devotion and appreciation.
Love is a word that is proven by deeds, not by words.
The deeds of Love that we produce, as "fruit of the spirit", are always God inspired.
It’s hard—sometimes impossible—for people to grasp truth when they’ve been lied to over and over. Add to that the weight of mental illness, mental retardation, trauma, confusion… there are so many factors. It’s rarely just one thing. But one thing that does matter deeply is whether someone seeks God with sincerity. “You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart” (Jeremiah 29:13).
No one answered my question, so I answered it myself. I’m just being honest about where I’m at.
Truthfully, if I had lived in that time period, I probably wouldn’t have followed Jesus either. I don’t know if I could’ve handled it. That’s why I’m so grateful I didn’t have to walk through those trials.
I love the first-century bride of Christ—the ones who stood firm, who followed Him in His strength, not their own. “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me” (Philippians 4:13)—but they actually lived that out when it cost everything.
They did what we couldn’t. And through them, we see what faith looks like under fire. “These all died in faith… having seen the promises afar off” (Hebrews 11:13).
Behold
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The world system that is created by "the god of this world" is designed to make you insane.
Its designed to make you pursue lust.
Its designed to capture your mind and keep you away from Jesus and God's Salvation.
Eh I don't really even like conversing with you personally. So like... I said
It’s hard—sometimes impossible—for people to grasp truth when they’ve been lied to over and over. Add to that the weight of mental illness, mental retardation, trauma, confusion… there are so many factors. It’s rarely just one thing. But one thing that does matter deeply is whether someone seeks God with sincerity. “You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart” (Jeremiah 29:13).
No one answered my question, so I answered it myself. I’m just being honest about where I’m at.
Truthfully, if I had lived in that time period, I probably wouldn’t have followed Jesus either. I don’t know if I could’ve handled it. That’s why I’m so grateful I didn’t have to walk through those trials.
I love the first-century bride of Christ—the ones who stood firm, who followed Him in His strength, not their own. “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me” (Philippians 4:13)—but they actually lived that out when it cost everything.
They did what we couldn’t. And through them, we see what faith looks like under fire. “These all died in faith… having seen the promises afar off” (Hebrews 11:13).
Behold
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Yes... i feel the same way about you.
However, sometimes when you are not promoting some false theology you believe, i read something else you wrote, and im inclined to respond.
Its what we do on a forum.
No biggie.
Behold
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soberxp
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Is that the only way "we love each other",
Oh..god will you agree with the way?
The videos are nice, but do take care--most translations, especially those with cultural influence, include error. As for global warming: yes, we should be good stewards of this earth, just as we should also care for our bodies of flesh--so that God's purpose is not inhibited. But as with the body, it is only temporary, and will endure in spite of man's folly. For it is not we who are in control of such things, but God.
Look man, if your heart’s set on bringing peace to the world—more power to you. Do it with everything you’ve got in Christ Jesus. “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God” (Matthew 5:9). Just know it’s not easy, and it’s not always received.
As for me, God’s the one who’ll judge—me, you, and everyone scrolling through these forums. “Each of us will give an account of ourselves to God” (Romans 14:12). That’s why I thank Him for the gift of boundaries. Ignore, Mute, Hide—those aren’t just tech features, they’re spiritual tools for guarding your peace. “Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it” (Proverbs 4:23).
I don’t have to let everyone into my life just because I’m called to love. Love doesn’t mean access. “Do not throw your pearls before swine” (Matthew 7:6). You’ll never have peace of mind trying to please everyone—trust me. Been there. Good luck with that.
You remind me of myself when I was younger—just wanting to love everyone, fix everything. But reality hits hard. You can’t carry everyone. Even Jesus didn’t entrust Himself to all people (John 2:24).
Still, I hold no hate. I love Behold. I desire good for him. I don’t wish death on anyone. I love you too, and I hope the best for you. But love doesn’t mean letting people break into your home—physically or spiritually. “If anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet” (Matthew 10:14).
Behold
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The reason that Love satisfies all the commandments.. Is because LOVE, will keep you from breaking them.
Love is the reason that you will Put God first.
Love is the reason that you will honor your father and mother.
Love is the reason you'll have no other God but Father God.
Ect.
Love is what keeps you from committing a carnal deed or a work of the flesh, against someone, or against God.
God definitely helps us with this, as we are human .... we are emotional beings,.... so, for example, God gives us Grace to deal with difficult people or difficult situations...or we couldn't do it.....we'd hate or quit.
But God's Grace empowers us beyond ourselves.
soberxp
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I just found out that Chinese myths and legends may have thought of Eve as a god,
I found the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and tree of life in the Chinese myths and legends
and something as prophesy and that Eve's name was not Eve as in the Bible, So I made this video.
The picture is NvWa and FuXi, I think it maybe Adam and Eve.
3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
The human's lower body is a snake, so the snake can't hurt her feet. The woman can't hurt the head. The two people in the picture are holding tools that represent the rules.
God said love your enemies, so.....the rule maybe out of the word of God, or the way of Adam and Eve teach their children.
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soberxp
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What you said is honest, I believe it.
It's just that we sometimes place our will on God's word.
So we need to learn to be patient, to endure our will, and to put God's word first.
Not every time, of course, we succeed in putting God's word first.
I think whether our doctrinal understanding of the Bible is true or not, even if our understanding is wrong,
We should still love each other so that people know that we are servants of God, or else we are not different from the world.
We seek the justice，
But I find that a lot of times what we call justice is not right, and then we compete with each other because of different opinions, and I just want to remind us, No one but God can represent justice, even though we may be right.
Not everyone has saved from God is the good workers.
Jesus told the parable of the sower.
The read and learning = 30
The faith = 60
The faith and work = 100
God is our teacher. I don't think a good teacher will treat his students differently, just like in Chinese education. Teachers are attracted to good students. I don't think our God is such a teacher.
Then it depends what you willing to do,
If you willing keep on the level of faith,that is your willing,
If you keep on the level of faith and work,that is still your willing.
1 Corinthians 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
But the difference is whether you're closer to God.
Whatever you choose I respect you.
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she was ashamed of it, repented and served God, and did not return to her life of sin. As Paul said, "when the law came, I died". Before meeting the Jews and their God, she had no reason to change. What's your excuse?
soberxp
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You're right,
But we sometimes mistake the meaning of God's word for/As God's word in the first place.
So speak it loud :Lord, guide me when I was wrong about you.
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