We fundamentally disagree: "Thy Word is truth" (John 17.17).
What happens if one person in a marrige lives according to God and the other does not
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Welcome. Yes. Sin can cause suffering for our loved ones too. How much more does a Christian spouse with an unbelieving spouse suffer? The Christian wife does sanctify the unbelieving husband, but the consequences of sin sadly do not go away.
Actually we dont you are just looking at it the wrong way,
Joh_1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
so Jesus is the Word and full of grace and truth,,,, but men prefer teh "dead letter"
2Co_3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
because
Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
but than if you never go to teh one who is the truth than you will never know the truth, Ye devil has christians wrapped up around the bible and keeping them from the Living Word, Gods best.
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
and He should always be first
I disagree entirely with your apparent redefinition of what the Word of God is; and I don't think it's profitable to continue.
Deborah_
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There is a BIG assumption here: that God's blessing is neatly equated to our behaviour.
In real life, it isn't like that. There are many Christian couples who live obedient lives but are not well off in material terms. Also many godless couples who are rich.
A husband who watches porn or flirts with other women is bad for the marriage (and that would be true whatever the couple's state of faith), but it's unlikely to have a clear link with his finances - unless God is using failure at work to lean on you and convict you of sin (in which case, sort out your relationship with Him!)
What was it Jesus said
Mat_15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
they all say they Love Jesus, but when you tell them to go to Him they all run away...
Mat_19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
but they wont come...
I was married to a non believer ( I came to faith after I had married ) Many here know that I am now divorce, but I stayed in that marriage for 27 years, 24 of them as a Christian. My ex did not always do things the right way, he did things that went against my own principles- but as a Christian wife it did mean that I could pray for him and the situations we faced. My husband would have experienced the results of those prayers being answered, so I guess on one hand he was blessed, but often it was the consequences of his actions that led us into difficult situations in the first place.
His financial ' sins ' eventually led him into debt ( 55,000 pounds worth ) - this had a knock on effect on me for years to come, but God used it all in my life, and through all the ups and downs I can claim Romans 8:28.
In the end my husband lost me, but can I just add that being a Christian wife does not mean you have a perfect wife -he didn't value me enough to remain loyal and faithful, which ultimately brought my marriage to an end, but as part of the healing process I had to totally self examine myself - and I certainly discovered that I was also at fault. So what you would define as a ' good ' Christian wife is perhaps important. I was a coward most of the time, and didn't like rocking the boat, and yet I always endeavoured to include God and pray ect.
However after the seperation God laid it on my heart to continue to pray for him , and to totally forgive him - both these requests made me angry at the time of recieving them - but the Lord made me aware of something- as his wife then and his ex wife now, I can still have an impact.
I guess how you interpret ' blessing ' makes a difference- me being a Christian didn't excuse or justify the sin, and it didn't mean that it made it null and void before God - so if anyone believes that having a Christian wife means you can do exactly what you want and you are protected, is perhaps living in cloud cookoo land ( do you have that expression in the USA )
Butterfly
BARNEY BRIGHT
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Jesus told us the only cause for a divorce is if the husband or wife commits fornication(any type of immoral sexual sin). Anything else like cooking meth in the basement, you can separate from your spouse. While in your separate state if the husband has sex with someone then you can divorce.
Welcome to the forum Jim. God uses the wicked to provide for the Church. We are few in number and would not survive without them. But what happens when the last of Christ's followers comes into his possession? God destroys the wicked and the word by fire and places us into the New Heavens and Earth. So yes, God will promote a wicked husband and make him prosper for the sake of the believing wife.
Lord help me! I have way too many real questions to ever entertain the what ifs. Soooo many what ifs originate with the doubt sower but Love covers a multitude of sin.
My dear wife of 53 years truly used love and patience with me. She was a Christian long before I came falling into the kingdom of God. Her love without preachiness was a help to my miserable ways.
Pride is a great hindrance. Taking the lower seat as a servant shows a right heart. For years my dear life's companion kept house, kept my company books and looked after the children including the lion's share of their homeschooling.
Now that she's semi disabled and barely able to walk I count it a privilege to do for her. Bring her meals, do chores etc.
When true love is really in play many questions never arise. You just do your part and theirs too...with a joyful heart realizing that you will not always have each other to do for.
All those things listed in 1Corinthians 13 and so much more are SOP.
The result of a Godly unison in marriage is a glorious harmony and common goal of treating one another with honor. All of this and more will not be learned nor achieved in a day.
As is said marriage is not 50/50 but 100/100. Not a contract but a covenant.
Just a few things God mentions he hates in scripture and divorce is one of them.
After both being raised in war torn homes we were both determined to not have our God given children raised in such a place.
The result? This is our son and daughter as they were going out to eat together and attend an old movie. We sowed love into them through our common and equal yoke of unity in Christ Jesus. A Godly marriage yields many kinds of fruit. Was there hardship along the way? Of course.
My dear wife of 53 years truly used love and patience with me. She was a Christian long before I came falling into the kingdom of God. Her love without preachiness was a help to my miserable ways.
Pride is a great hindrance. Taking the lower seat as a servant shows a right heart. For years my dear life's companion kept house, kept my company books and looked after the children including the lion's share of their homeschooling.
Now that she's semi disabled and barely able to walk I count it a privilege to do for her. Bring her meals, do chores etc.
When true love is really in play many questions never arise. You just do your part and theirs too...with a joyful heart realizing that you will not always have each other to do for.
All those things listed in 1Corinthians 13 and so much more are SOP.
The result of a Godly unison in marriage is a glorious harmony and common goal of treating one another with honor. All of this and more will not be learned nor achieved in a day.
As is said marriage is not 50/50 but 100/100. Not a contract but a covenant.
Just a few things God mentions he hates in scripture and divorce is one of them.
After both being raised in war torn homes we were both determined to not have our God given children raised in such a place.
The result? This is our son and daughter as they were going out to eat together and attend an old movie. We sowed love into them through our common and equal yoke of unity in Christ Jesus. A Godly marriage yields many kinds of fruit. Was there hardship along the way? Of course.
I am unfamiliar with that expression.
If anyone was protected by the believing half of your marriage [you] it was the innocent young children. You were both dead to God when you were married. When you encountered and took hold of the Life which Jesus is that changed things for you and your young children. Your husband never received Life and your actions and/or efforts did not change that for him. He remained dead. What you did provide was a witness to him but what he did with that witness was still up to him. If he never sought and received what you had to offer, he still remained dead to God in spite of his marriage to a believer.
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Remember when it says that two are sleeping in the same bed...but only one is taken? This surely points to an unequally yoked marriage where one is faithful to Christ and the other not.
Just to give context ' cloud cuckoo land ' means living in a make believe world , not living in reality xx
Believing is Believing, and you established in your scenario, both Believe.
What you are talking about IS "WORKS" of a Believer.
"MOST" WORKS" an individual Believer DOES, that Glorifies Gods Name, the individual receives "treasures, rewards, blessings, etc."
1) If the individual is "rewarded" on earth, by other men, there is no reward for that deed in heaven.
2) If the individual is "not rewarded" on earth, by other men, the "deed", is accounted and testified of, IN HEAVEN. Those such "treasures/rewards", are stored up in Heaven, for the Lord Himself to bestow on the individual at a later time.
(This is speaking to doing things to Glorify Gods Name, in a sense of secrecy, and it not being open and publicly noticed...nor does the person brag and tout pridefulness for his gestures/works.)
ALL "WORKS" done by a Believer, that Does not Glorify God, (public or private), shall be burned.
It does not affect the individuals already received Salvation.
But it will affect the individuals "status" in the Lord Gods Kingdom.
For example;
The Apostles recognition In the Lord Gods Kingdom, shall be set in stone, with their names and their position great, as they did great things to Glorify thee Lord Gods name.
And others will have done the most minimum, by accepting thee Lord God on their death bed, and done nothing their whole life to Glorify His Great Name.
And there shall be a great multitude of individuals "inbetween", according to their Works which shall be Judged, "rewarded" or "burned".
All WORKS not glorifying to Gods Names shall be burned. Those works of a Believer, and definitely all works of an unbeliever shall be burned.
Your scenario, is describing a Wife who is storing up "treasures" in Heaven.
And the Husband who is seemingly Not doing the same.
We are all individually Judged.
Glory to God,
Taken
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