I started a thread that sadly got locked about Satan's Words. Because we know the truth, we can also discern what is NOT true.
Some moderator has gotten lock-happy — why?
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I started a thread that sadly got locked about Satan's Words. Because we know the truth, we can also discern what is NOT true.
Thought about your post this morning. A word that stood out while reading this morning was: adulterating the Word of God. I had never heard “adulterating” used in that way.
2 Corinthians 4:2 Lexicon: but we have renounced the things hidden because of shame, not walking in craftiness or adulterating the word of God, but by the manifestation of truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
Strong's Greek: 1389. δολόω (doloó) -- to ensnare, fig. to adulterate
properly, to lure (or snare) by using bait – holding out the worm and concealing the hook!; to handle deceitfully; "primarily, to ensnare; then to corrupt –
2. to corrupt, (βδελλιον and λίβανον, Dioscor. 1, 80. 81); τόν οἶνον, Lucian, Hermot. 59) τόν λόγον τοῦΘεοῦ, divine truth by mingling with it wrong notions, 2 Corinthians 4:2.
divine truth mingled with wrong notions. Thought of “wrong notions” with how often is the Word mingled with wrong notions; with your response of “almost always.” To me “wrong notions” make it so hard to trust yourself or anyone else who says “it is the God Honest Truth”! Afraid it is a worm held out concealing the hook…
For the sake of conversation @Mr E “a tickling of the ears” could also be bitter and not sweet in the sense of: a bitter spirit. What tickles the ears of a bitter spirit where it will heap teachers unto it; to have its desires met?Not only disguises, but sugar-coated. Sweet in the mouth, bitter in the stomach— but preferred. They want their ears tickled and their hearts undisturbed.
Read the context:How it is ok for them …for instance “you must eat my flesh and drink my blood” to then be “Spiritual”.
Thank you for the references. You said “The disciples, and Jews, constantly misunderstood Jesus' spiritual words for physical or natural things.”Read the context:
1.John 1:19-25 (John the Baptist as Elijah)
2.John 2:19-22 (Temple of His body)
3.John 3:1-21 (Nicodemus, Born Again)
4.John 4:7-15 (Woman a the Well, Water)
5.John 4:31-34 (Meat to Eat, Water to Drink)
6.John 5:6-7 (Will you be made whole, Pool)
7.John 6:50-52 (Eat my Flesh, Word)
8.John 7:38-39 (Water out of the belly, Spirit)
9.Matthew 16:5-12 (Leaven, Bread)
10. Luke 22:36 (no sword, sell garment, buy one)
The disciples, and Jews, constantly misunderstood Jesus' spiritual words for physical or natural things.
For many Christians, it is a lot. For instance, see Revelation, which is hyper-literalized. There are Christians that actually think that 'locusts' with the description given in Revelation 9, are actually going to come out of the earth looking like that description. They think that the two witnesses of Revelation 11 are human beings, and so on.Thank you for the references. You said “The disciples, and Jews, constantly misunderstood Jesus' spiritual words for physical or natural things.”
Agree. Still the same question though. How often do we (also) misunderstand Jesus’ spiritual words for physical or natural things?
I get what you mean. that was why I originally posted the OP. Not to debate locusts or the two witnesses. But I was asking how and who decides for instance the two witnesses will for so many days wear sackcloth. If it is taken literally (two men), then the days are also (taken literally) then it would also be taken literally their “wearing” of “sackcloth”. For me “wearing sackcloth” is more significant than a type of clothing (literally worn) but speaks of “to mourn”. I don’t understand how we can take a verse and make one part of it literal, the next words Spiritual, and then the next literal again. Picking and choosing wherever; sometimes in the same verse.For many Christians, it is a lot. For instance, see Revelation, which is hyper-literalized. There are Christians that actually think that 'locusts' with the description given in Revelation 9, are actually going to come out of the earth looking like that description. They think that the two witnesses of Revelation 11 are human beings, and so on.