What is your take? Satan was the Religious Zealots of that time.

[MatthewG]

Your concern for me, is useless.

I am my own individual person. I have always been my own individual person.

No one changes me, and that might offend some people cause I am not gullible enough to follow anyone who wants to make me change.... cause i dont follow what man says....

I just follow what Yeshua said, the work of God it to believe on him and love others as yourself.



If you wanna go around and judge and condemn, be that all you are @Behold.

Im not a drug abuser... you're an accuser and a liar, judge.

It's legal to buy them at the store... so ... bug off.

And as I said before, people shouldn't use things if they are not able to maintain their lives, just tell oneself no.

 

[MatthewG]

All the word satan means is "accuser."

And it is especially concerning "accusing against God."

Just like the religious pharisess "accused Yeshua, and desired for him to die!" They were satan, opposed to the will of God.

Jesus called Peter, satan for having his mind set on mans things and not the things of God.

Peter for a moment in time was opposed to the will of God.

Perfect example.

 

[Augustin56]

I don't believe so.

Satan = accuser. Nothing more nothing less.

so many people love Satan so much they make him into some more than it really is.

Im not opposed to certain spirits exisitng "school spirit" "spirit of malice" "spirit of hatred"

It's okay to agree to disagree.

 

[Lizbeth]

You just dont realize it.
Thats what the Devil does.

You are drinking Mushroom tea?
Right?
Or just consuming the "shroons".. ?

That is not the correct lifestyle of a Chrisitan. , What kind of TESTAMONY is that, that you are presenting as a Christian.

You dont understand this?
You dont care?

Listen, you are harming your mind @MatthewG , you're altering your brain chemistry., and that is Long term harmful to you.

"well, i like it, and its my life, its my choice so, i'll have it my way".

Ok.
Its your free will.

Mind altering drugs open doors to demons. That's why they have been used by pagans for millenia in idol worship. And sin can be so deceptive by nature.....it can "feel" or "seem" just fine and harmless, but spiritually is destructive. Even more so if people are using drugs for the purpose of bringing them closer to God and help them understand things better. That in itself is idolatry. And the Lord very strictly warned the Israelites not to worship Him the way the pagans worship their gods.

 

[Lizbeth]

I don't have any problems with drugs. I maintain my life, and use things that are legal, (Thc, Mushrooms.)

If I am not maintaining my life then yes, I have a problem. Be it with using available legal sold hemp, or mushrooms.

This is your problem, you're a judge and condemn people for doing whatever they want to do.

That's a problem.

Gosh Matthew....this is concerning to hear. There is more to being a follower of Christ than walking around being nice to people. Living a clean life is a start.

 

[MatthewG]

It's okay to agree to disagree.

Good.

Mind altering drugs open doors to demons. That's why they have been used by pagans for millenia in idol worship. And sin can be so deceptive by nature.....it can "feel" or "seem" just fine and harmless, but spiritually is destructive. Even more so if people are using drugs for the purpose of bringing them closer to God and help them understand things better. That in itself is idolatry. And the Lord very strictly warned the Israelites not to worship Him the way the pagans worship their gods.

That's not always true. You also are a judge.

If people are not able to maintain their lives, they should not use substances at all.

You can't just take control over people and suggest they can not do something.

Even Paul stated "We do not want to dominate how you practice your own faith" "its by your own faith you stand." And Hebrews "God is only pleased by faith."

 

[MatthewG]

Gosh Matthew....this is concerning to hear. There is more to being a follower of Christ than walking around being nice to people. Living a clean life is a start.

Your concern means nothing.

I'm an adult. Not a child. You're a judge.

Thank you for your judgements, a clean life is not something that God judges.

He judges people by their love and faith. Plus they are legal, who are you to tell me what I can and can't do.

Paul said "all things are lawful, but not all thing are benefical."

If you dont find something benefical, then don't do it. That's a personal thing just like "one day is looked as greater than someone else who see a different day as greater."

What's legal in my state, is something not against the law.

 

[MatthewG]

I don't trust people on the internet as it is.

At least I am honest person who knows who he is and while people all judge and have "concern."

Im not better than no one here.

At people who can't maintain their life, shouldn't use substances even if they are legal in their states.

People should worry about their own lives and self, and not judge people who aren't doing anything wrong only because they say it's wrong it's wrong to them.

 

[Lizbeth]

Your concern means nothing.

I'm an adult. Not a child. You're a judge.

Thank you for your judgements, a clean life is not something that God judges.

He judges people by their love and faith. Plus they are legal, who are you to tell me what I can and can't do.

Paul said "all things are lawful, but not all thing are benefical."

If you dont find something benefical, then don't do it. That's a personal thing just like "one day is looked as greater than someone else who see a different day as greater."

What's legal in my state, is something not against the law.

Adultery and fornication aren't illegal either. We need to put God's ways above man's laws. You're putting yourself in danger Matthew. I hope you'll sincerely ask the Lord about your drug use.

 

[Augustin56]

Mind altering drugs open doors to demons. That's why they have been used by pagans for millenia in idol worship. And sin can be so deceptive by nature.....it can "feel" or "seem" just fine and harmless, but spiritually is destructive. Even more so if people are using drugs for the purpose of bringing them closer to God and help them understand things better. That in itself is idolatry. And the Lord very strictly warned the Israelites not to worship Him the way the pagans worship their gods.

There are several methods in which demonic influence can affect a person. According to Fr. Jocis Syquia—the director of the Office of Exorcism and author of Exorcism: Encounters with the Paranormal and the Occult—lists 10 demonic possession gateways. They are the following:
Occult involvement This includes going to albularyos, faith healers, or mangkukulam, using anting-anting, and calling on spirits through a Ouija board or playing “spirit of the glass.” For example, in the case mentioned earlier, Fr. Syquia found out that all 50 of the schoolchildren he exorcised had psychic powers, because their parents had taken them to albularyos whenever they were sick.
Traumatic experience (sex abuse, physical abuse, etc. Deep-seated emotional wounds, intense negativity, and unforgiveness can make one more susceptible to evil spirits.)
Opening the third eye (certain types of Eastern meditation, etc. This happens when one is born with the ability to see spirits, has their third eye opened, or uses drugs to enter altered states.)
Contamination (victim of occult activities This occurs when one becomes a victim of occult practices—say, if someone hires a mangkukulam to put a curse on you.)
Sinful lifestyle (habitually living in sin vs committing a sin. If one continues to be obstinate about certain sins—especially mortal sins, spirits can attach themselves to one’s body little by little. )
New Age practices (Practitioners of reiki and tarot card reading often say that what they do is harmless, since all they do is read energies. However, the Catholic Church maintains that any practice that has to do with healing or manipulating energies creates openings for demonic attack.)
Unforgiveness (Holding grudges, ongoing resentment, etc.)
False Christian beliefs and practices (Heresies, blasphemies, etc.)
Pornography (73% of women and 98% of men report viewing pornography in the last 6 months!)
Satanism Self explanatory.

 

[MatthewG]

Adultery and fornication aren't illegal either. We need to put God's ways above man's laws. You're putting yourself in danger Matthew. I hope you'll sincerely ask the Lord about your drug use.

I just shake my head at you people whom judge and condemn. You're acts of concern mean nothing because you don't even have a proper relationship with me in the first place.


I love you, behold, everyone on this website, but people who judge and condemn...

Yall got problems.

You think something I do, prevents me to going and getting to God? You're dead wrong.

It's Yeshua and his she blood and his resurrection, and that new relationship which is gained because of him. The Lord Jesus...

 

[MatthewG]

This topic is not about me and what I do in my personal life in the first place.


This thread is concerning the "word satan" and how the religious people at that time were opposed to Gods will all together, they replaced worshiping him, with worshiping the law.

They are known as accusers.... "satan"

Im glad that Ive been opened up to this realization cause so many people love "some idea of Satan" that is just not true today.

 

[Behold]

No one changes me, and that might offend some people cause I am not gullible enough to follow anyone who wants to make me change...

Jesus wants you to change.
He does not want you to be on Fourms bragging about your Drug habit, and enjoying your Drug Habit, and giving other Christians your middle finger who try to reason with you, while you pretend you are following Jesus.
You're not following Jesus.
You're deceived and proud of it.

Wake up and turn around @MatthewG.

 

[MatthewG]

Jesus wants you to change.
He does not want you to be on Fourms bragging about your Drug habit, and enjoying your Drug Habit, and giving other Christians your middle finger who try to reason with you, while you pretend you are following Jesus.
You're not following Jesus.
You're deceived and proud of it.

Wake up and turn around @MatthewG.

God is not mocked.

I don’t take your word for much of anything valuable…

You’re someone who just picks and pokes and gaslights people.

So, what ever you wanna say…

I use to hate people I don’t hate them much anymore because of Jesus…

Get out of my face with your bull crap man.

When will you learn to just be quiet and leave me alone ? I’ll just ignore you; you judgmental person.

 

[Behold]

Get out of my face with your bull crap man.

As i told you.
You need to wake up.
You are so valuable to God, so just do the right thing, and you know what it is... @MatthewG
Do it for Him.

 

[MatthewG]

As i told you.
You need to wake up.
You are so valuable to God, so just do the right thing, and you know what it is... @MatthewG
Do it for Him.

Harassment I don’t need your concern. Get off my back. You don’t remember when Jesus said “kick the dust off your own feet?” All you care about is pestering people more than really helping that’s why I don’t trust you..,

I done told you who I trust but you don’t care man.

You haven’t even built a proper relationship with me you just come in and judge and criticize.


No good…

 

[MatthewG]

This topic is not about me and what I do in my personal life in the first place.


This thread is concerning the "word satan" and how the religious people at that time were opposed to Gods will all together, they replaced worshiping him, with worshiping the law.

They are known as accusers.... "satan"

Im glad that Ive been opened up to this realization cause so many people love "some idea of Satan" that is just not true today.

 

[Lizbeth]

I just shake my head at you people whom judge and condemn. You're acts of concern mean nothing because you don't even have a proper relationship with me in the first place.


I love you, behold, everyone on this website, but people who judge and condemn...

Yall got problems.

You think something I do, prevents me to going and getting to God? You're dead wrong.

It's Yeshua and his she blood and his resurrection, and that new relationship which is gained because of him. The Lord Jesus...

I agree we generally do need to "earn" the right to speak into a person's life, but on a forum it is kind of understood that everything shared in public is open to comment by others. And sometimes the Holy Spirit will use someone to speak to another without any social niceties.

I read what you were saying about sexual abuse of some family members, I don't know if you took it down or if it was on another thread. But I wanted to say some things about it. It has being made increasingly clear to me in recent years just how evil this world is.....I think sexual abuse of children is what making them "pass through the fire" to Molech is talking about (lust is a burning). And sadly, it is much more prevalent than most people think. But God is going to judge it all soon........why I believe this is because these things are beginning to be exposed....that means the Lord is getting ready to judge once transgression comes to the full. I know you believe all sin has already been judged, and in a way it has....but I believe it's like the Lamb of God was slain from the foundation of the world yet He wasn't slain in time until the fullness of time and appointed day for it to happen. So even though judgment has taken place in one way, I believe it is still waiting to be manifested on an appointed day.

Isa 26:19-21

Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation (wrath) be overpast.

For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. (God exposing the sins and crimes of this world.)

Rom 2:16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Heb 4:13
Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Eccl 12:14
For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

 

[MatthewG]

I agree we generally do need to "earn" the right to speak into a person's life, but on a forum it is kind of understood that everything shared in public is open to comment by others. And sometimes the Holy Spirit will use someone to speak to another without any social niceties.

I read what you were saying about sexual abuse of some family members, I don't know if you took it down or if it was on another thread. But I wanted to say some things about it. It has being made increasingly clear to me in recent years just how evil this world is.....I think sexual abuse of children is what making them "pass through the fire" to Molech is talking about (lust is a burning). And sadly, it is much more prevalent than most people think. But God is going to judge it all soon........why I believe this is because these things are beginning to be exposed....that means the Lord is getting ready to judge once transgression comes to the full. I know you believe all sin has already been judged, and in a way it has....but I believe it's like the Lamb of God was slain from the foundation of the world yet He wasn't slain in time until the fullness of time and appointed day for it to happen. So even though judgment has taken place in one way, I believe it is still waiting to be manifested on an appointed day.

Isa 26:19-21

Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation (wrath) be overpast.

For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. (God exposing the sins and crimes of this world.)

Rom 2:16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Heb 4:13
Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Eccl 12:14
For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

That can be intrusive and illegal.

You don’t even have proper relationship with me for me to even consider what you say really.


There is a scripture which states don’t move boundaries stones when your neighbor has them in place.

Just think about that for a minute.

I’m a grown man.

Not a child. I could consider what you say but doesn’t mean nothing if you can not love me for who I am.

That’s the problem.

 

[Rita]

I think it’s right to remember the rules of the forum and not presume any of us know where someone else stands- also it’s often the way that we communicate that creates issues.
It should be remembered that this is the Bible study forum, so perhaps get back to what this thread is suppose to be discussing xx