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stevesonthebay
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Good video. I could imagine after Christ and Penticost how the followers of Jesus meet in worship and fellowship. There would have been many upper rooms. Or any secret room in a back street. Some wealthy women donated their homes to meet in.
Christ would have still been fresh in their minds. Even the gentiles were soon coming and joining in soon after Stephen was martyred as they seen there was something different about the early Christians. Which was Jesus a real person who lived in their time and spoke the words and was resurrected from the dead.
It makes sense that having a supper and sharing the bread would be central and everything else was added around this. This brought Christ into their midst. But also it brought followers to Christs sacrifice. That they had to meet in secret shows this was no small choice in sacrificing their lives in return.
I agree that many churches have become almost corporations rather than the close fellowship that the early church had. I guess being a new ostracized community they stuck together and insulated themselves from the world. Apart from going out to work or preaching. Most of the work was in caring for the church and ensuring they had and followed the true doctrine. While sorting out the false teachers and sinners within that may lead the church astray.
Paul mentions that elders need to first manage their families and have good standing in the community. Are above reproach. I think it starts with strong leadership which overseers the church. Its very hard today because its hard to tell the wolves from the sheep. Theres too many divisions and groups rather than one unified people.
I agree the church has to get the doctrine and fellowship right and the breaking of the bread is the natural culmination. Paul mentions that he taught the doctrine that had been passed and taught to him. Which is the gospel that was there from the beginning. The apostles creed was developed very early after Christ orally. They would have recited this over and over.
This is the central part, the spirit of worship that drives all else. Especially in unifying everyone in mind and spirit. Just as each person is born again of the spirit they are united in that spirit beyond their differences. Like joining a club in some ways. But not to be exclusive or promote themselves. Just a natural pouring out of Gods spirit.
I think we need to forget about all the Ted talk preaching and get back to the last supper. Get back to creating a Christian community that is different and seperate from the world and reflects Christ. Then people may become more interested instead of hating the church.
Christ would have still been fresh in their minds. Even the gentiles were soon coming and joining in soon after Stephen was martyred as they seen there was something different about the early Christians. Which was Jesus a real person who lived in their time and spoke the words and was resurrected from the dead.
It makes sense that having a supper and sharing the bread would be central and everything else was added around this. This brought Christ into their midst. But also it brought followers to Christs sacrifice. That they had to meet in secret shows this was no small choice in sacrificing their lives in return.
I agree that many churches have become almost corporations rather than the close fellowship that the early church had. I guess being a new ostracized community they stuck together and insulated themselves from the world. Apart from going out to work or preaching. Most of the work was in caring for the church and ensuring they had and followed the true doctrine. While sorting out the false teachers and sinners within that may lead the church astray.
Paul mentions that elders need to first manage their families and have good standing in the community. Are above reproach. I think it starts with strong leadership which overseers the church. Its very hard today because its hard to tell the wolves from the sheep. Theres too many divisions and groups rather than one unified people.
I agree the church has to get the doctrine and fellowship right and the breaking of the bread is the natural culmination. Paul mentions that he taught the doctrine that had been passed and taught to him. Which is the gospel that was there from the beginning. The apostles creed was developed very early after Christ orally. They would have recited this over and over.
This is the central part, the spirit of worship that drives all else. Especially in unifying everyone in mind and spirit. Just as each person is born again of the spirit they are united in that spirit beyond their differences. Like joining a club in some ways. But not to be exclusive or promote themselves. Just a natural pouring out of Gods spirit.
I think we need to forget about all the Ted talk preaching and get back to the last supper. Get back to creating a Christian community that is different and seperate from the world and reflects Christ. Then people may become more interested instead of hating the church.
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