Davy
Well-Known Member
So brethren, what is... the actual CONTEXT Apostle Paul was giving us in the 2 Thessalonians 2 chapter??? He revealed it right in the first verse:
2 Thess 2:1
2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
KJV
What TIMING is Paul talking about there folks??
Paul is talking about the event on the LAST DAY of this present world! the day of our Lord Jesus' return AND... our gathering to Him!
Paul is NOT talking about 2,000 years of falling away folks! He's talking about signs in the LAST DAYS that MUST happen before Jesus comes.
2 Thess 2:2-4
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV
All 3 of those verses go together in context. Beware of men's doctrines that try to pull out parts of it and isolate it from the whole.
The subject is about false men trying to say Christ's coming will be at a different time, and that instead... we are to be watching for that "man of sin" coming to sit in a literal temple in Jerusalem, proclaiming to be God, and this later verse goes with it as to what that false one will work...
2 Thess 2:9
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
KJV
Wait a minute. Didn't our Lord Jesus warn us of this very thing in His Olivet discourse??? YES! He did!
Matt 24:23-26
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, "Lo, here is Christ, or there"; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, "Behold, he is in the desert"; go not forth: "behold, he is in the secret chambers"; believe it not.
KJV
The KJV phrase "false Christs" is actually singular per the context of those verses. Our Lord Jesus is warning of a pseudo-Messiah coming that people will say is our Lord Jesus Christ (Messiah). Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance defined the Greek word for that phrase as 'a spurious Messiah' (5580).
Do you see that parallel there of the working of "great signs and wonders"? That's what the false one Paul mentioned is to come at the end doing, and WE KNOW THE FALSE COMES AT THE END OF THIS WORLD in the days of Jesus' return! "Well, how do we know that?", some will say...
2 Thess 2:8-9
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
KJV
No doubt about it! That "Wicked" one HAS to manifest on the world scene in the generation that will experience Christ's RETURN!!!
Now is that 2,000 years of working those great signs and lying wonders folks? Of course not! Paul's Message in 2 Thess.2 is for the very END of this world when Jesus returns, not starting 2,000 years ago!!!
2 Thess 2:1
2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
KJV
What TIMING is Paul talking about there folks??
Paul is talking about the event on the LAST DAY of this present world! the day of our Lord Jesus' return AND... our gathering to Him!
Paul is NOT talking about 2,000 years of falling away folks! He's talking about signs in the LAST DAYS that MUST happen before Jesus comes.
2 Thess 2:2-4
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV
All 3 of those verses go together in context. Beware of men's doctrines that try to pull out parts of it and isolate it from the whole.
The subject is about false men trying to say Christ's coming will be at a different time, and that instead... we are to be watching for that "man of sin" coming to sit in a literal temple in Jerusalem, proclaiming to be God, and this later verse goes with it as to what that false one will work...
2 Thess 2:9
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
KJV
Wait a minute. Didn't our Lord Jesus warn us of this very thing in His Olivet discourse??? YES! He did!
Matt 24:23-26
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, "Lo, here is Christ, or there"; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, "Behold, he is in the desert"; go not forth: "behold, he is in the secret chambers"; believe it not.
KJV
The KJV phrase "false Christs" is actually singular per the context of those verses. Our Lord Jesus is warning of a pseudo-Messiah coming that people will say is our Lord Jesus Christ (Messiah). Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance defined the Greek word for that phrase as 'a spurious Messiah' (5580).
Do you see that parallel there of the working of "great signs and wonders"? That's what the false one Paul mentioned is to come at the end doing, and WE KNOW THE FALSE COMES AT THE END OF THIS WORLD in the days of Jesus' return! "Well, how do we know that?", some will say...
2 Thess 2:8-9
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
KJV
No doubt about it! That "Wicked" one HAS to manifest on the world scene in the generation that will experience Christ's RETURN!!!
Now is that 2,000 years of working those great signs and lying wonders folks? Of course not! Paul's Message in 2 Thess.2 is for the very END of this world when Jesus returns, not starting 2,000 years ago!!!