when does truth become a lie?

[year2027]

God first​

When does truthbecome a lie?​

07-31-2011​

Truth is truth and a lie is a lie or is truth a lie and alie is truth otherwise when they change meaning all together? When religionsare added to the truth you walk by than it becomes the lie I warned you aboutin earlier words unto you. Love is a true that we all believe in but we do notbelieve in God but God is truth that we been told about.



God is God until you make it a law that one must believe inbecause then you make God a religion laws that one must follower. But God ismore than a religious law that one must live by for bad things not to happen tothe person. While God is theemotion of Love and there cannot be a God it does matter what one believes toGod.



God is not some man in heaven God is the emotion of lovecoming out of yourself every time you love something with all of your heart.One might enjoy hating something but that comes the flesh you were taught tohate but one had to teach you to love it a natural emotion but someone had tohate you first. Love is in our DNA to love our body so it is a truth written inour DNA but love comes naturally has our body fight to live.



Religion can be good when people understands that is just away that is better for some and not a law that we have to live by just adirection we can live by. No one has to believe in God and no one has to obeyhis commandments it is every personal choice to follower or not. But love isnot that simple because it is emotions you cannot escape from even that Godwhich God has said to be love one does have to believe in love believe in thatit is.



I donot care if you believe me or not it does not matter the only thing thatmatters is what I believe in my heart of my soul and my seed of Christ. It doesnot change a thing to me nor will it matter to some of you but the Religionperson everything matters because they want to control us. Thank you with love anda holy kiss from Roy

 

[Foreigner]

Can I get someone to translate this for me?

 

[aspen]

Wow.....that was a mindbender for sure.

Um....I think you are confusing God with the choice/emotion/behavior of love.

It is true that God calls us to love, but He is not the same thing as the love that comes from us.

In fact, we cannot love correctly without Christ's justification and sanctification - it is impossible in our fallen state. All attempts to love others without God will result in self love.

 

[year2027]

God first

thanks Foreigner and aspen

aspen - your saying you cannot love God

with love and a holy kiss Roy

 

[aspen]

God first

thanks Foreigner and aspen

aspen - your saying you cannot love God

with love and a holy kiss Roy

How so?

 

[year2027]

God first

thanks aspen


if you have the emotion of love God does too


but saying it not love cuts away the meaning of it


love - [luhv] Show IPAnoun, verb, loved, lov·ing.–noun1.a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.2.a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, asfor a parent, child, or friend.3.sexual passion or desire.


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Love is an emotion of strong affection and personal attachment.[sup][1][/sup] In philosophical context, love is a virtue representing all of human kindness, compassion, and affection. Love is central to manyreligions, as in the Christian phrase, "God is love" or Agape in the Canonical gospels.[sup][2][/sup] Love may also be described as actions towards others (or oneself) based on compassion, or as actions towards others based on affection.[sup][3][/sup]

In English, the word love can refer to a variety of different feelings, states, and attitudes, ranging from generic pleasure ("I loved that meal") to intense interpersonal attraction ("I love my partner"). "Love" can also refer specifically to the passionate desire and intimacy of romantic love, to thesexual love of eros (cf. Greek words for love), to the emotional closeness of familial love, or to theplatonic love that defines friendship,[sup][4][/sup] to the profound oneness or devotion of religious love.[sup][5][/sup] This diversity of uses and meanings, combined with the complexity of the feelings involved, makes love unusually difficult to consistently define, even compared to other emotional states.

Love in its various forms acts as a major facilitator of interpersonal relationships and, owing to its central psychological importance, is one of the most common themes in the creative arts.

Helen Fisher defines what could be understood as love as an evolved state of the survival instinct, primarily used to keep human beings together against menaces and to facilitate the continuation of the species through reproduction.




with love and a holy kiss Roy

 

[Perspectives]

Truth becomes a lie when religionists say what God said, not what God actually said.There's a world of difference between true and Truth. Something can be true today and not true tomorrow, weather for example. Truth is reality,reality is what we run into when wrong. We know that God can't lie, He is Truth. He can't lie because if He says it, it becomes the Truth! Paul tells us in Romans that He calls those things that are not as though the were. Sometimes I think we forget how big He is! He fills His universe and the heart of the smallest child all at once! He exceedes His own greatness! The last great thing He did He uses as a springboard to the next even greater thing!

 

[Prentis]

year2027, I think Aspen is saying that God's love is NOT like ours. And it isn't, it is far deeper and far greater! :)

I think truth is not truth anymore the moment you mix it with anything. Then it is just 'a truth', mixed with something. That is so often the problem. The devil doesn' need a big lie, just a small one with a big truth. But when it's purely truth, then it's 'THE truth'. Which is why the church is the Pillar and Ground of THE truth. Not a truth.

That's interesting, Big Picture, looking forward to more of what you have to say. :)

 

[rockytopva]

I have had people come to me, with a scowl that would curdle milk, and say those soul amazing words referring to "The Truth." If there is no love or warmth in that stove of yours please keep your so-called truth away from me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5658R1O-FE

 

[THE Gypsy]

"when does truth become a lie?"


Never.

 

[veteran]

Isa 5:13-20
13 Therefore My people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.
14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
15 And the mean man shall be brought down, and the mighty man shall be humbled, and the eyes of the lofty shall be humbled:
16 But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God That is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.
17 Then shall the lambs feed after their manner, and the waste places of the fat ones shall strangers eat.
18 Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:
19 That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it!
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
(KJV)

GOD's Truth is the only Truth that matters. His Message there in Isaiah especially applies for today, since the workers of iniquity are busying putting evil for good, and treating good as evil even while calling evil as truth.

 

[year2027]

God first

thanks Big Picture and Prentis and rocky topva and The Gypsy and veteran

Yes God is all is we mishandle what we call truth

truth is not found any book no even the bible

Truth is what we found in our hearts to be truth

God wrote not a book of paper but a book of love in our hearts

its not law its a desire to follower God

we search against everything to find the truth

otherwise we must able to handle even verse not just that seem easy to ourselves

like why does God kill all if God is love



Numbers 31:17-18

King James Version (KJV)




[sup]17[/sup]Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
[sup]18[/sup]But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

This is one the those hard verses to justify God orders and there are more

Kill every men child no matter how small but keep alive every female child so you do what to them

you have to be able to handle every word that was wrote to discover the truth

because a loving does not order to death all without some reason

to save them from what God people would do to them

because there life other than this one

with love and a holy kiss Roy