Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Is this meaning during or after what Matthew 24:15-22 below is involving?
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
One clue in determining that, is maybe verses 29-31.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
It is not reasonable to argue that the tribulation of those days meant in verse 29 is not involving great tribulation pertaining to verses 15-22. And since it obviously is involving those verses, it matters where one places verses 15-22 in history, whether that be in the past, or whether that be in the future, because immediately after the end of those days verses 29-31 have to be fulfilled.
The reason I bring up Matthew 24:23-26 in relation to Matthew 24:15-22 is because some interpreters are trying to get around verses 29-31 by insisting those verses are meaning immediately after what verses 23-26 are involving, but not immediately after what verses 15-22 are involving. IOW, Matthew 24:23-26 is not meaning during verses 15-22 it is meaning after. And why do these particular interpreters do that to begin with?
It's because they are apparently interpreting verses 23-26 to be involving tribulation, just not the same tribulation verses 15-22 are involving. They are taking verses 15-22 to be involving the first century and 70 AD, while taking verses 29-31 to be involving the end of this age and the 2nd coming. Therefore, they apparently have verse 29 meaning immediately after what verses 23-26 are involving, not immediately after what verses 15-22. IOW, they are somehow seeing two tribulations in Matthew 24 rather than one.
So where does Matthew 24:23-26 fit in relation to Matthew 24:15-22? That is the question. I tend to think it is meaning during verses 15-22 myself. Which means one can't insist that verses 15-22 are involving the first century and 70 AD if verses 23-26 fit during what verses 15-22 are involving. IOW, verses 23-26 don't fit 70 AD events. 70 AD had nothing to do with what verses 23-26 are involving.
The way I deal with it then since I do take verses 29-31 to be involving the end of this age and the 2nd coming, and that I take verses 23-26 to be meaning during what verses 15-22 are involving, is that verses 15-22 are not involving the first century and 70 AD. Problem solved.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Is this meaning during or after what Matthew 24:15-22 below is involving?
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
One clue in determining that, is maybe verses 29-31.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
It is not reasonable to argue that the tribulation of those days meant in verse 29 is not involving great tribulation pertaining to verses 15-22. And since it obviously is involving those verses, it matters where one places verses 15-22 in history, whether that be in the past, or whether that be in the future, because immediately after the end of those days verses 29-31 have to be fulfilled.
The reason I bring up Matthew 24:23-26 in relation to Matthew 24:15-22 is because some interpreters are trying to get around verses 29-31 by insisting those verses are meaning immediately after what verses 23-26 are involving, but not immediately after what verses 15-22 are involving. IOW, Matthew 24:23-26 is not meaning during verses 15-22 it is meaning after. And why do these particular interpreters do that to begin with?
It's because they are apparently interpreting verses 23-26 to be involving tribulation, just not the same tribulation verses 15-22 are involving. They are taking verses 15-22 to be involving the first century and 70 AD, while taking verses 29-31 to be involving the end of this age and the 2nd coming. Therefore, they apparently have verse 29 meaning immediately after what verses 23-26 are involving, not immediately after what verses 15-22. IOW, they are somehow seeing two tribulations in Matthew 24 rather than one.
So where does Matthew 24:23-26 fit in relation to Matthew 24:15-22? That is the question. I tend to think it is meaning during verses 15-22 myself. Which means one can't insist that verses 15-22 are involving the first century and 70 AD if verses 23-26 fit during what verses 15-22 are involving. IOW, verses 23-26 don't fit 70 AD events. 70 AD had nothing to do with what verses 23-26 are involving.
The way I deal with it then since I do take verses 29-31 to be involving the end of this age and the 2nd coming, and that I take verses 23-26 to be meaning during what verses 15-22 are involving, is that verses 15-22 are not involving the first century and 70 AD. Problem solved.