Where does the Pope get his authority?

[Peterlag]

Matt. 7:1-5
“Stop judging,* that you may not be judged.
For as you judge, so will you be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you.
Why do you notice the splinter in your brother’s eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye?
How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove that splinter from your eye,’ while the wooden beam is in your eye?
You hypocrite,* remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother’s eye.

The Pharisees judged Jesus with the same certitude you judge His Mystical Body, the Catholic Church. Coincidence? I think not.

Again you quote from the gospels that was not written to Christians.

 

[Peterlag]

Pope has the flu----

Every time he gets a sniffle or a cough there's a group of Cardinals shining their shoes...

Who will be the next Pope? The contenders.....

• Cardinal Angelo Scola - Italy
• Cardinal Odilo Pedro Scherer - Brazil
• Cardinal Peter Turkson - Ghana
• Cardinal Christoph Schonborn, O.P. - Austria
• Cardinal Marc Ouellet, S.S.P. - Canada
• Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle - Phillipines
• Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan - United States
• Cardinal Peter Erdo - Hungary
• Cardinal Gionfranco Ravasi - Italy
• Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga - Honduras
• Cardinal Leonardo Sandri - Argentina
• Cardinal Robert Sarah - Guinea

Does it matter?

 

[Augustin56]

Again you quote from the gospels that was not written to Christians.

You do realize that you are very afar from what the vast majority of Christians believe, yes? Are you a Gnostic, believing in some secret information?

 

[Peterlag]

You do realize that you are very afar from what the vast majority of Christians believe, yes? Are you a Gnostic, believing in some secret information?

I'm an expert in biblical data concerning the New Testament. I do not know why we have so many Christians who believe the entire Bible is written directly to them, the Church of God. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate such thinking, and I would like to add nothing could be further from the truth. It's true the Word of God was written for everyone for all time, and it's for our learning because it contains what everyone should know. That does not mean every part of it is addressed to everyone in this time, because the subject matter was written either to the Jews, to the Gentiles, or to the Church of God (1 Corinthians 10:32).

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I'm an expert in biblical data concerning the New Testament.

Oh wow! We had no idea who it was we were dealing with

 

[Mr E]

Does it matter?

Of course it matters. Does it matter who leads your family?

Papa Pope has a family with one billion members.

 

[Peterlag]

Of course it matters. Does it matter who leads your family?

Papa Pope has a family with one billion members.

The big boss never changes.

 

[Mr E]

The big boss never changes.

That simply isn’t true.

Modern Christianity was born when the boss changed.

 

[Peterlag]

That simply isn’t true.

Modern Christianity was born when the boss changed.

I do not believe the Catholic church teaches the Bible. I have asked a few folks over the years to tell me what they ever taught that was biblical and so far nothing. Who sits on the throne does not seem to matter in my opinion.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Papa Pope has a family with one billion members.

And sadly... they are NOT any of the folks the Lord claims as being His family....

Matthew 12:50
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Those following extra biblical doctrine are not God's family since they aren't following His Word and are not one with Him

John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

 

[Illuminator]

I do not believe the Catholic church teaches the Bible. I have asked a few folks over the years to tell me what they ever taught that was biblical and so far nothing. Who sits on the throne does not seem to matter in my opinion.

You believe in false caricatures, misrepresentations and blatant lies about the Catholic Church. You are a minority of anti-Catholics within a minority, a whole different breed of anti-Catholics, and you do not speak for all Protestants. There is nothing "Christian" about bigotry. Your replies to counterarguments always includes off topic flaming zingers making discussion with you impossible.

 

[Peterlag]

You believe in false caricatures, misrepresentations and blatant lies about the Catholic Church. You are a minority of anti-Catholics within a minority, a whole different breed of anti-Catholics, and you do not speak for all Protestants. There is nothing "Christian" about bigotry. Your replies to counterarguments always includes off topic flaming zingers making discussion with you impossible.

Just telling the truth.

 

[Augustin56]

Just telling the truth.

Peter, keep in mind that the Pharisees had an equal amount of certitude that they were right about Jesus being a blasphemer as you do that the Catholic Church is wrong. If nothing, it should give you pause. I suspect your bigotry has blinded you to the truth.

 

[Peterlag]

Peter, keep in mind that the Pharisees had an equal amount of certitude that they were right about Jesus being a blasphemer as you do that the Catholic Church is wrong. If nothing, it should give you pause. I suspect your bigotry has blinded you to the truth.

And I think the same of you.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Peter, keep in mind that the Pharisees had an equal amount of certitude that they were right about Jesus being a blasphemer as you do that the Catholic Church is wrong. If nothing, it should give you pause. I suspect your bigotry has blinded you to the truth.

And still... catholics cannot explain why praying to mary is not in the bible

If it was a thing, Jesus would have told us... "you fellas need to do a seance
and git in touch with my momma and see if she'll put in a good word for you"

 

[Peterlag]

And still... catholics cannot explain why praying to mary is not in the bible View attachment 42383

If it was a thing, Jesus would have told us... "you fellas need to do a seance
and git in touch with my momma and see if she'll put in a good word for you"

It's not just Mary. I can't think of anything the Catholics teach that's correct.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

It's not just Mary. I can't think of anything the Catholics teach that's correct.

Well, that';s the obvious one and it's the one almost all catholic quickly get mad
about since they have all made an idol out of mary and are guilty of the sin of idolatry

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

[Peterlag]

Well, that';s the obvious one and it's the one almost all catholic quickly get mad
about since they have all made an idol out of mary and are guilty of the sin of idolatry

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

The trinity is their flag ship. I use it as a gauge that tells me if they believe it then it's probably wrong.

 

[Peterlag]

Well, that';s the obvious one and it's the one almost all catholic quickly get mad
about since they have all made an idol out of mary and are guilty of the sin of idolatry

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Right now I'm working on sin nature because I just learned a few years ago that the Catholics started that one to.

 

[BreadOfLife]

John 1:14
The "Word" is the wisdom, plan or purpose of God and the Word became flesh as Jesus Christ. Thus, Jesus Christ was the Word in the flesh, which is shortened to the Word for ease of speaking. Scripture is also the Word in writing. Everyone agrees that the Word in writing had a beginning. So did the Word in the flesh. In fact, the Greek text of Matthew 1:18 says that very clearly: "Now the beginning of Jesus Christ was in this manner..." The modern Greek texts all read "beginning" in Matthew 1:18. Birth is considered an acceptable translation since the beginning of some things is birth, and so most translations read birth. Nevertheless, the proper understanding of Matthew 1:18 is the beginning of Jesus Christ. In the beginning God had a plan, a purpose, which became flesh when Jesus was conceived.

The Son’s FLECH had a beginning.
The Son ALWAYS existed – prior to becoming flesh.

Paul tells us that the Son was also a Rock that followed the Israelites in the desert (1 Cor. 10:4). According to YOU – the Son only came into being when He was manifested as flesh.

In Genesis, when God created man – He is described as a plurality of Persons, but ONE Being:
Gen, 1:26
Then God said, "Let US make mankind in OUR image, in OUR likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

John echoes this truth ion John 1:1