Where Is Whitney Houston Now?

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Since Houston was raised a Baptist; then she had a pretty good chance of
making it to safety when she passed.

What's so special about Baptists? Answer: Christ's administration. He's a
Melchizedekian high priest rather than an Aaronic high priest (Ps 110:4, Heb
5:4-6, Heb 6:18-20, Heb 7:11) so his constituents aren't subject to the Ten
Commandments; and the reason for that is quite simple. Moses' covenanted
law isn't retroactive (Gal 3:17) therefore none of Mel's constituents were
obligated to comply with it; including Mr. Abraham.

So then; since Christ is Whitney's high priest; then her salvation isn't
dependent upon compliance with the Ten Commandments.

†. Gal 5:4 . . For if you are trying to make yourselves righteous with God by
keeping commandments, then you have been cut off from Christ! You have
fallen away from God's kindness and generosity.

†. Gal 2:21 . . I am not one of those who treats the kindness of God as
meaningless. For if we could be spared by keeping commandments, then
there was no need for Christ to die.

†. Gal 3:21-22 . . If the commandments could have given us new life, then
we could have been made right with God by obeying them. But the
Scriptures have declared that we are all prisoners of sin, so the only way to
receive God's promise is to trust in Jesus Christ.

In other words: Whitney could conceivably thumb her nose at every
commandment in the book and still be okay just so long as she was relying
upon Christ's crucifixion to protect her from the wrath of God.

Cliff
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[biggandyy]

She's six feet underground, other than that, it's up to God on her final destination not our torturing scripture to pretend Baptists have any advantage over other demoninational systems.

 

[brightmorningstar]

It is up to God, end of story.

 

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There is a theory in psychology called Attachment Theory. It studies human development with an emphasis on the quality of the attachment a child has with their caregiver. The children who appear to attach to everyone are actually attached to no one and end up having terrible problems trusting anyone and anything in later life. Infants and young children need to rely on their caregiver as their primary relationship or they can grow up relying on themselves during a time when they cannot possibly handle the problems that life throws at them.

The reason I mention this is because it perfectly describes Adam and Eve's predicament in the Garden. Once Adam and Eve saw the contradiction of the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil - looks good, smells good / forbidden - they started relying on themselves instead of God. They were not equipped to make divine decisions and made a big mess of the whole situation, which turned into a disaster for their children and future children.

Instead of relying on God to determine Good and Evil (a determination that never had to be made if evil did not enter the world), we now think we are competent to make divine decisions.

Determining the eternal destination of Whitney Houston is a divine decision.

 

[Templar81]

Its not for any of us to say. leave it to God to decide where she is.

 

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Personally, I think Houston made it. Yes; her life as a Christian was a train
wreck; but when a high priest of the Melchizedekian order is your mediator
between man and God; that's not the deciding factor.

I think her life's fatal error was in marrying a non-Christian.

†. 2Cor 6:14-18 . . Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do
righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light
have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What
does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is
there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the
living God.

. . . As God has said: I will live with them and walk among them, and I will
be their God, and they will be my people. Therefore come out from them and
be separate— says the Lord —touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.
I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters— says the
Lord Almighty.

Whitney's association with God went on the rocks the day she got hitched to
the wrong man.

†. 1John 1:5-6 . .This is the message we have heard from him and declare
to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have
fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the
truth.

Houston can still be saved in spite of her marriage to Bobby Brown; though I
doubt she'll get much recognition for loyalty to Christ's wishes.

†. 1Cor 3:11-15 . . For no one can lay any foundation other than the one
already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If any man builds on this foundation using
gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for
what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire,
and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built
survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he
himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.

Some folk attempt to use that passage to prove there's a purgatory, but
that's not what it's saying. The last part "as one escaping through the flame"
depicts somebody wakened in the middle of the night by their house on fire
and they get out just in time but take nothing with them except the clothes
they wore to bed. All their mementoes, all their belongings, and sometimes
even their pets go up in smoke. The person is spared, but everything they
owned is gone. Poor Whitney. She threw away the best years of her life on
the wrong man and was out of sorts with God in the process; and now her
daughter is paying for Whitney's spiritual indiscretion with depression and
drug addiction.

There's a pretty cool scene in the movie "Moonstruck" where a man wants to
come inside with Loretta's mom after an impromptu dinner out. Well; she
said no and her reason was "I know who I am". In other words: Loretta's
mom was married and she was not about to cross that boundary. Houston
forgot who she was and crossed 2Cor 6:14-18 and you can see what it got
her.

†. Gal 6:7 . . Don't be misled. Remember that you can't ignore God and get
away with it. You will always reap what you sow.

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There is a theory in psychology called Attachment Theory. It studies human development with an emphasis on the quality of the attachment a child has with their caregiver. The children who appear to attach to everyone are actually attached to no one and end up having terrible problems trusting anyone and anything in later life. Infants and young children need to rely on their caregiver as their primary relationship or they can grow up relying on themselves during a time when they cannot possibly handle the problems that life throws at them.

The reason I mention this is because it perfectly describes Adam and Eve's predicament in the Garden. Once Adam and Eve saw the contradiction of the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil - looks good, smells good / forbidden - they started relying on themselves instead of God. They were not equipped to make divine decisions and made a big mess of the whole situation, which turned into a disaster for their children and future children.

Instead of relying on God to determine Good and Evil (a determination that never had to be made if evil did not enter the world), we now think we are competent to make divine decisions.

Determining the eternal destination of Whitney Houston is a divine decision.

Very well written. My hat's off to you for this post.

Of course, you are quite correct in that the sentence for her eternal destiny lies squarely in the hands of God.

Still it continues to amaze me,
why there's so much admiration,
for a woman who is after all,
just another dead junkie.

For one who received blessing,
beyond any gift most folks know,
who received fame,
that none who gave it could understand,
one who flushed it all down the toilet,
to feed her own appetites.

Let's be quite honest and straight about Whitney Houston shall we? Let's write and speak the truth about this meteor of talent and self-gratification. Like so many before her she did not deserve the worship she received. She did not deserve the talent that she was given. And even in her grave she does not deserve the generous eulogies that have been heaped upon her memory.

A man or a woman dies as they live. Selfish or selfless, their end provides a stamp and an end piece to the story of their lives.
Houston was a fine entertainer, but personally she had her demons. In the end they killed her because she could never ever master them.
The whole world saw it, yet the whole world denies it. Whitney Houston died a selfish self-abusive self-destructive self-important shell of a woman. Even a person who works a minimum wage job, has no talent, and isn't famous beyond their own family has more redeeming qualities than Whitney Houston. She was a burned out has been and died the way that sort always dies .... alone and full of the thing they love most in life. In Houston's case, that would be dope.

All have heard of the life and death of Jesus. He gave everything He had and He gave it willingly. No one has ever moved so many people as He has. Jesus wasn't rich and He wasn't a rock star, not by the world's standards anyway. Christ died publicly giving of Himself. Houston drowned in her own bathtub alone and full of drugs.

The world today ridicules and hates Jesus; who always and only gave of Himself. Yet the world loves Houston, who sucked the very last ounce of kindness (and not a few dollars) from everyone who knew her and who knew of her and threw it back in our faces.

In the end she died a thief. She robbed herself of life, her family of her presence, and she robbed the world of any further pleasure she might have given. She continues to rob from the grave because few will acknowledge what a fool she proved to be with her life and talent. I see nothing admirable or good to say about that.

One thing is for sure. If she is now in the presence of God it will be for the same hope that the least member of God's Kingdom may have, and that is the blood of Christ. It is up to God to redeem her if He wishes. It certainly won't be done because a voice is needed in heaven. As far as I'm concerned, God's voice is good enough for me.

Where is Whitney Houston now? Frankly my dear I don't......(you know the rest of the line).

but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...

 

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Something I totally forgot about Melchizedekian priests is that their authority
supersedes the authority of any and all priests of the tribe of Levi.

†. Heb 7:4-10 . . Just think how great he was: even the patriarch Abraham
gave him a tenth of the plunder! Now the law requires the descendants of
Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the people— that is, their
brothers —even though their brothers are descended from Abraham.

. . .This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected
a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. And without
doubt the lesser person is blessed by the greater. In the one case, the tenth is
collected by men who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to
be living. One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the
tenth through Abraham, because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was
still in the loins of his ancestor.

What that means is: people trying to earn their way into heaven by means of
the Ten Commandments are working within the jurisdiction of the wrong
priesthood. The Levitical order wasn't established for heavenly people to live
by, no, the Levitical order is only for earthly people to live by and it
absolutely will not get them into heaven simply because that's not its
purpose.

†. Rom 10:5 . . For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law:
that the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

In other words: the Levitical order is the law of the land; while the Melchizedekian
order is the law of heaven.

†. John 14:6 . . Jesus saith unto him, I am the way . . . no man cometh unto
the Father, but by me.

The primary reason that Jesus went up to heaven is because his priesthood
has no jurisdiction down here.

†. Heb 8:4 . . If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are
already men who offer the gifts prescribed by the law.

So then, in a nutshell; the Levitical order is for earthly people; while the
Melchizedekian order is for heavenly people; viz: for people who've made
the cut.

†. Col 1:13 . . He has delivered us from the power of darkness, and
translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son

In other words: the Levitical priesthood serves the dead, while the
Melchizedekian priesthood serves the living.

†. John 5:24 . . I assure you: those who listen to my message, and believe
in God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for
their sins, but they have already passed from death into life.

Not only are believing Christians among the living; but so are Abraham,
Isaac, and Mr. Jacob too.

†. Mtt 22:31-32 . . Have you not read that which was spoken unto you by
God, saying: I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God
of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Cliff
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