Which one are you in the story of the Prodigal?

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Lambano

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This is what Jesus teaches us, that no forgiveness is possible without repentance.

I do question this comment though.

Forgiveness is the obligation of the injured party, regardless of the response from the perpetrator.
We can't let a requirement for remorse, or repentance, prevent us from forgiving others. IMO
"Forgiveness" and "Reconciliation" are related but separate processes. As St. Steven says, forgiveness comes from the heart of the injured party and may or may not be conditioned on an attitude readjustment on the part of the offending party. Reconciliation, the repair of the broken relationship, does require both forgiveness by the injured party and a change of heart (Greek, metanoia) on the part of the offending party. And note that the hearts and minds of BOTH the injured and the offending need to change for Reconciliation to take place.

And standing behind this is 2 Corinthians 5:20:

We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God.

As I understand this in the light of the parable, the Gospel proclamation is that the Father HAS forgiven us and wants us to come home.
 
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Jack

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Stevie seems to be very practiced at dodging Bible questions.
 

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You do ERR. I'm obsessed with defending the Christian Bible. So you're defending stevies attacks on the Bible???
I don't see him attacking the bible, but asking questions. I find them helpful to turn to God and ask about things for clearer understanding. As an example, there are many things I've noticed, when part of any church, where traditions are created, and people just go along with it, instead of checking out what the bible really says. Especially deep diving into translations and seeing what earlier manuscripts really say.
 
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I don't see him attacking the bible, but asking questions. I find them helpful to turn to God and ask about things for clearer understanding. As an example, there are many things I've noticed, when part of any church, where traditions are created, and people just go along with it, instead of checking out what the bible really says. Especially deep diving into translations and seeing what earlier really manuscripts say.
I asked him several times which Books of the Bible he believed to be the written Word of God. He won't answer!!!
 

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I don't see him attacking the bible, but asking questions. I find them helpful to turn to God and ask about things for clearer understanding. As an example, there are many things I've noticed, when part of any church, where traditions are created, and people just go along with it, instead of checking out what the bible really says. Especially deep diving into translations and seeing what earlier really manuscripts say.
I agree.....an undefended faith is not worth having.....blind faith is easily undone, so we have to know what we believe....but more importantly, why we believe it.

For most ‘church going’ people, they have fallen for the ruse of theological degrees...thinking that study of the Bible is beyond them academically, so they have to rely on the one with the degree to spoon feed them Bible truth. Sadly a study of theology is not a study of the Bible, but of church doctrine and what they believe is scriptural proof for what they accept as truth.

In the big picture, all we need to do is read the Bible for ourselves and ask questions like the ones @St. SteVen has asked on his various threads. Questions are how we get answers. We might not agree with the answers, but at least we have some food for thought....and because there are “wheat and weeds” in the world, sometimes the “wheat” are portrayed as “weeds” by the real ones.

It was the same in Jesus’ day....satan had thoroughly corrupted the Jewish religion and when Jesus came to teach the Jewish people the truth about his Father, the leaders of that corrupted faith had Jesus put to death as a blasphemer....but it was they (the educated leaders of the faith) who were the real blasphemers and who became murderers....backed up by the misled majority. (Matt 27:25)

This Jesus was teaching them things that their rabbis never did. They said he was a liar who got his power from the devil. The majority believed them.
Only a relatively small number of national Jews accepted the real truth that Jesus was teaching...the majority stayed with what they had been taught all their lives....the comfortable lies were more acceptable than an uncomfortable truth.

Is history repeating? Are the haters here who are condemning others to “hell” because they teach something different to the mainstream, actually heading there themselves? Are they simply repeating what has happened before?

We are all being separated at this juncture when Christ is about to judge the world, and there is no place to hide. “Sheep and goats” are all there are....which means that we are all one or the other....on the straight and narrow “road less travelled”....or the broad highway to destruction in a spiritual traffic jam. (Matt 7:13-14)

We are at this point, deciding our own destiny. We are making choices that will place us in one category or the other, and there will be no excuses accepted when that judgment is handed down and sentence passed. (Matt 7:21-23)

Claiming to have the true religion and believing what “the church” has taught its members for centuries, really is no indicator...as Israel itself has already proven. The whole nation lost their place because they didn’t accept the truth when it was right in front of them. They were persuaded to stumble at the messengers and taught to hate them...(John 15:18-21)....smug in their ignorance.

The only way history can repeat, is for the past to be ignored and disregarded. There are no second chances in this time of the end....like the days of Noah. (Matt 24:37-39)
 
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