aspen2 said:
Evil is the absence of Good. It is not a force. If God created evil, did He also create cold?
In addition to directly deny the scripture says that God created evil still ignores? I thought their faith was on the deed.
If evil is the absence of good, so good is the absence of evil and there is nothing and nothing is true.
The sufferings of the prophets were the absence of good or suffered by them were exactly the Spirit of Christ? The sufferings of Christ were an illusion, it was the absence of good? Friend, these are theories of men.
I can not do good to someone without making it worse, is just as it was, but if I give lher punched certainly will hurt you, and it is real and not the absence of good.
Eve sinned because evil was present outside and inside (so coveted) even before sin.
Then all the evil that exists is the absence of good, if not as a force can destroy something that does not exist? The devil, sin, curse and death is an illusion?
Jesus came to die and shed their blood for something that is not real? If evil is the absence of good to say that the reason for his suffering is because they do not have Christ? Those who belong to Christ have no suffering, or is it just the opposite?
FHII said:
I can sit in a chair and not do anything good.... Does that mean I'm doing something evil? There's an absense of good, but am I doing something evil? Of course not.
There was the child in Isa 7 who doesn't know to choose good or refuse evil. Doesn't really make much sense that he didn't know how to choose good and refuse the absense of good.
People also say that darkness is the absense of light.... But God also said he made darkness, just like he said he created evil. And by the way, yep.... I would think God created all temperatures!
Never bought that arguement that evil wasn't a "thing", "force" or anything else like that...
Certo, FHII
aspen2 said:
Sitting in a chair is doing something good - your body is operating as it should - you are breathing and producing neurotransmitters and thinking. You are also prone to being selfish while you are sitting, perhaps you could be helping you neighbor or worshiping God.
Yes, Moses thought that darkness was a force rather than a lack of light, but he was wrong. We now know better.
Also, Good cannot create Evil without being culpable in the havoc the evil causes.
Friend because stubbornly contradict the scriptures to defend the error when the Bible is full of evidence that God is who created evil?
There goes another one:
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done {it}? {be afraid: or, run together?} {the LORD ...: or, Shall not the LORD's somewhat?}
Amos 3:6
Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?
Lamentations 3:38
Let the most outrageous things, because God's people kill women and children? see:
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that They have, and spare Them not, but slay Both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
1 Samuel 15:3
This is the absence of good or commandment is precisely the well?
God is the cause and the end of everything, so he is the Lord.
Dan57 said:
Show me a bible verse that says God created sin? He did not create sin, there's a big difference between sin and evil. God created evil in the form of hardship, calamity, suffering, etc., but all of those evil things are ramifications of sin.
Originally, everything God created was good, but when A&E sinned, they were expelled from the garden and many forms of evil fell upon mankind. The reason was 'sin', that's the one thing God did not create.
If we didn't have free-will, sin would not exist. Sin is not of God, He hates sin and made it clear that the wages of sin is death. Evil is the result of sin, which is why neither will exist in heaven. If all righteousness resides in God, then sin cannot be of God. JMO
Suffice it to say that God created everything and you do not believe that sin is not part of creation?
When God made the world was not there the darkness, the devil and the deep: and the father of sin? It was they who created alone?
Of course it was God who created sin, and that by the law: for if God had not given a law and a conviction (not eat ... die), there would never sin.
Because the law worketh wrath: for where the law is, {there is} in the transgression.
Romans 4:15
So is the law itself that generates sin because of our transgression, but there's no law, neither is there sin in fact the law is the life and power of sin, so Jesus nailed to the cross and freed us from the law of sin.
The sting of death is {} sin, and the strength of sin {is} the law.
1 Corinthians 15:56
But the question is very simple, just the fact that they do not believe in what is written to give way to the reasonings free will, only reveals a lack of faith, and it is rather dangerous.
Who defends the free will have faith in yourself, in your choices, not God, he did.
Are relying on their flesh!