What do you think about the example I gave with 2 Timothy 3:8 about 'reprobates' per Apostle Paul? That's an example of 'falling away', but it is NOT the same falling away event of 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 that is caused by the coming of the false-Messiah at the 'end' of this world. Sharpen up and study your Bible.
It might help me give a response to “what do you think about the example I gave with 2 Timothy 3:8 about ‘reprobates’ per Apostle Paul? That’s an example of ‘falling away’, but it is NOT the same falling away event of 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 that is caused by the coming of the false-Messiah at the ‘end’ of this world.”
If I can understand better how you see it; it might help. Do you think Mark 4:16-17 also gives an example of ‘falling away’? In a similar way these are the ones on whom seed was sown on the rocky [places] who, when they hear the word immediately receive it with joy; and they have no [firm] root in themselves, but are [only] temporary; then, when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately they fall away.
If you do see Mark 4 16-17 as an example of ‘falling away’; Is it an example of 2 Timothy 3:8 or 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4? Also when Jesus Christ said to them you must eat my flesh and drink my blood; some was offended and went away. he turned to his disciples asking “will you go away also”…is this an example of ‘falling away’: many became offended and left him? Is it more toward 2 Timothy 3:8 or Thessalonians 2:3-4.
You will most likely say I’m taking “out of context” what isn’t connected, but have you ever notice how close the parable of the seed in the sower in Mark is to the parable told to the Lawyer willing to justify himself about the man who fell among thieves? How similar the the seed sown along the road is; to the man beside the road who is beaten, stripped of his clothing, wounded, and left half-dead by thieves? A priest looks at the man beaten, stripped of his clothing, wounded and left half-dead, but doesn’t
see the man passing…by on the other side of the road. He hears but doesn’t
hear; not moved with compassion in his inward parts.. A Levite also “looks” on the man beaten, stripped of his clothing, wounded and left half-dead but doesn’t
see nor
perceive, passing by on the other side of the road. the Lawyer willing to justify himself asked “who
is my neighbor?” The Samaritan
looks on the man beaten, stripped of his clothing, wounded and left half-dead; the Samaritan and
sees and
hears being “moved with compassion”. he cares for the one beside the road side taking him to an inn, and says to the innkeeper “what more you spend for this man.” “I will repay when I return.” Compare that to Paul’s words “I will gladly spend and be spent for you.” With the parable where “that sown on good ground” …one increases.(which increase between the priest, the Levite and the Samaritan?) Both parables given by Jesus Christ has to do with seeing and hearing. What did the Samaritan see and hear… That the priest and the Levite did not? I’ve always heard and been taught the mystery of the kingdom of “seeing” and “hearing” is all about hidden knowledge of “events”. Of being right. About raptures. About end-times. But then what did the Samaritan
see and
hear when he “looked” on the man beaten, wounded, stripped of his clothing and left half-dead by side of the road that the priest and the Levite proved to turn away from?
Jesus then asks the Lawyer “which do you think proved to be neighbor to the one that fell among thieves?” You may ask “what does that have to do with the falling away”? Deafness? The point is I’m not debating the timing of an event…I’m only saying more and more every ‘event’ or teaching of Christ …I don’t see the main point as being about the timing but the fruit. he was always teaching about brothers.
