Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT COMMIT sin. Really?

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TonyChanYT

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This shall be the last time I respond yet again.
Everyday.
This may assist your question. Perhaps it is you who need know how often you should read the Bible.

As shall you. You will answer for every word.
Reference is linked above. And here again.
Thanks for the references. To save the effort of everyone, this is how to do referencing in a scholarly manner:
  1. Give the name of the source.
  2. Provide the link to the source. It is the URL address.
  3. Indent the quoted text.
  4. Bold the relevant keywords that are important to the point that you are making.
  5. Be concise and to the point.
This is what I do for others who read my posts. It is a standard high-school scholarship. If you practice this, I guarantee you: it will improve your analytical thinking. In any case, no one is required to do it here :)
 

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Asked and answered.

Why do you repeatedly ask the same question when it has already been afforded an answer?

How often do you read the Bible? When was the last time you lied?
I read the Bible every day.

The last time I lied was decades ago. I don't even remember exactly.

Feel free to ask me again if you wish.

On the other hand, I am sorry that I am slow. Please focus on this question:

When was the last time you lied?
 

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"Flesh" does not carry the same overtones of sinfulness in the Hebrew scriptures. For example:

I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. (Ezekiel 36:26)​
"Flesh" is actually a good thing in this passage. (At least compared to stone.)
I'm glad you noted the context--the issue is hardness and softness of the heart, it is not related to "flesh" as used by Paul in the NT, but to the issue of how a heart can be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin (Hb 3:12,13) versus "a good and honest heart" that receives the Word and bears fruit (Mt 13).
 

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No one born of Christ does.

To my knowledge, Christ doesn't have any descendants; he has siblings.

** Words are important in the Bible, otherwise language and grammar serve
no useful purpose. For example 1John 3:9 speaks of God's posterity rather
than Christ's and I really think we should leave it that way.
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To my knowledge, Christ doesn't have any descendants; he has siblings.

** Words are important in the Bible, otherwise language and grammar serve
no useful purpose. For example 1John 3:9 speaks of God's posterity rather
than Christ's and I really think we should leave it that way.
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Born of Christ is a biblical term. Of course it doesn't apply to offspring,as we know
 
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To my knowledge, Christ doesn't have any descendants; he has siblings.

** Words are important in the Bible, otherwise language and grammar serve
no useful purpose. For example 1John 3:9 speaks of God's posterity rather
than Christ's and I really think we should leave it that way.
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We are referred to as Christ's offspring in Isaiah 53.
Perhaps relevant: The Jews say, based on a verse in the Law, that one's disciples are accounted as one's children.
But, it is a little confusing, because those of us in Christ are sons of God the Father, and, yes, it does say we are Christ's siblings. LOL
 

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This issue is easily resolved: it is true that our flesh is sinful, which is why Christ destroys it for us when we share in His death (Ro 6:6, 7:4), but Christ's flesh was not.
No, that implies that Christ was not REALLY human, but only APPEARED to have human flesh. This is the very docetic/gnostic heresy against which John is arguing in the referenced John 2 verse.
 
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No, that implies that Christ was not REALLY human, but only APPEARED to have human flesh. This is the very docetic/gnostic heresy against which John is arguing in the referenced John 2 verse.
Lol I'm sorry!
How so? He truly had flesh, I am not doubting or debating that. He just didn't have sinful flesh, He had flesh without that, sorta like Adam and Eve had had before the fall.
 

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Gal 4:4-5 . .When the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth His
son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were
under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Eph 1:5 . . Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus
Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of His will.

Adopted children have advantages that foster kids don't have. Adopted
children have a right to their father's name, a right to a place in his
genealogy, and a right to his affections.

Whereas foster kids eventually age-out of their homes, adopted children are
permanent residents because foster kids are more or less guests, whereas
adopted children have a status in the home equal to those born in it.

Foster kids don't have inheritance rights, whereas adopted children do. (Eph
1:11 and Gal 4:7)

At one time I was alienated from God-- I had a lot to answer for, and on a
highway headed straight for Hell; whereas today I'm listed in His family tree,
and in line for an inheritance. Pretty amazing.
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Gal 4:4-5 . .When the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth His
son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were
under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Eph 1:5 . . Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus
Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of His will.

Adopted children have advantages that foster kids don't have. Adopted
children have a right to their father's name, a right to a place in his
genealogy, and a right to his affections.

Whereas foster kids eventually age-out of their homes, adopted children are
permanent residents because foster kids are more or less guests, whereas
adopted children have a status in the home equal to those born in it.

Foster kids don't have inheritance rights, whereas adopted children do. (Eph
1:11 and Gal 4:7)

At one time I was alienated from God-- I had a lot to answer for, and on a
highway headed straight for Hell; whereas today I'm listed in His family tree,
and in line for an inheritance. Pretty amazing.
_
I have read that adoption worked differently back in ancient Rome--ie, it was one's own children that one "adopted" when they came of age.
 

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We are referred to as Christ's offspring in Isaiah 53.

I'd imagine that Jews have trouble with Isaiah 53 because it predicts the
servant would die and leave no one behind.

Anyway; this can only make sense from a Christian's point of view and even
then we have to enlist Adam for an allegory or we'll mess it up, to wit: all "in
Adam" are Adam's body. In a similar manner all "in Christ" are Christ's body.
In other words: just as all in Adam are Adam's offspring, so all in Christ are
Christ's offspring: so to speak. Get it?
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I'd imagine that Jews have trouble with Isaiah 53 because it predicts the
servant would die and leave no one behind.

Anyway; this can only make sense from a Christian's point of view and even
then we have to enlist Adam for an allegory or we'll mess it up, to wit: all "in
Adam" are Adam's body. In a similar manner all "in Christ" are Christ's body.
In other words: just as all in Adam are Adam's offspring, so all in Christ are
Christ's offspring: so to speak. Get it?
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LOL YOU were the one who was correcting someone else for saying we were Christ's children!
 

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A very unusual adoption is depicted in Gen 48:5-6 wherein Jacob took
possession of Joseph's two sons Manasseh and Ephraim, thus making them
tribal heads equal in rank and privilege to his paternal sons Reuben and Simeon.

** We're very fortunate to have that incident in the Bible because without it,
we'd have a difficult time convincing the Jews that it was legitimate for Jesus
to take Solomon's place thru Mary's husband Joseph.
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