Why Christians Call Mary the Mother of God.

[Dryhn]

That's rude. Did you decide to be mean when you woke up this morning?

Then don't read it Stump

 

[Stumpmaster]

Then don't read it Stump

Too late, so now I urge you to bring joy and harmony to the members here.

 

[Dryhn]

Too late, so now I urge you to bring joy and harmony to the members here.

To those who give they shall have it returned in spades

 

[Taken]

Catholics know the same things, unlike Protestants, each denomination knows different things.

You accuse Catholics praying to the deads.

I recognize they Call on Mary, as they have Said…. And Pray TO her.
Mary’s Body IS Dead, in the Earth. Not in Heaven.

When a man on Earth Prays “FOR” ( not “TO”another ) the prayer is For the Whole of that man…body, soul, spirit.

Yet, your 'sola scriptura' bible says:
Matthew 22:32 that God "is not the God of the dead, but of the living, pointing directly to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Yes my Bible says that.

‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

Jesus did not say Abraham, Isaac and Jacob dead people!

Yes… and exactly Where IS “Your body”…?

My body is Already Dead… crucified with Jesus…My saved soul, quickened spirit… lives IN Christs Risen Body…
Until my own body is risen IN glory.

Bodily dead saints Bodily Raised out of their graves
And appeared to men on Earth with Jesus walking about..Whole?

Matt:27:52-53

 

[BreadOfLife]

Flat out False Accuser…Gaslighter.
“I SAID” no such thing!

My “Rejection” is the “Living” attempting to Communicate with “ANY” of the “Departed”.
“A Saint in Heaven or a Fallen in Hell”.

My “Acceptance” is to Communicate with the “Saints “ON Earth”…
Pray FOR them.
Pray WITH them.
Petition them to Pray FOR or WITH me.
Never Pray TO Them.

Scripture … To the Saints “ON” Earth…
Salute, greet with a kiss, be hospitable, contribute to the poor, visit in prison,
Minister to….

While “it seems all your “saints” are bodily Dead and Departed”…
And no Scriptures For the Mortally Alive TO attempt to interact with the departed…

AND …
My perspective according to Scripture…

IS…
God takes care of the Saints IN Heaven…

AND…
The bodily alive saints “ON Earth”…are to assist in “caring for the saints “ON Earth”!

Acts 9:13……..saints in Jerusalem
Acts9:33………saints at Lydda
1 Cor 14:33… churches of saints
2 Cor 1:1 ……..saints at Achaia
Eph 1:1…………saints at Ephesus
Phi 1:1………….saints at Philippi
Col 1:2………….saints at Colosse
Rom 1:7…………saints at Rome


A completely OPPOSITE “View and Understanding”, between you and me.

NEXT..[16] Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

NEXT..

Ahhh, yes - there's that "Gaslighter" slur again . . .

WOW - now THAT was quite the angry and verbose diatribe.
You used up FOUR posts echoing the SAME nonsense . . .

Again – your ENTIRE argument can be reduced to your total rejection of the Communio0n of Saints.
Allow me to explain . . .

The Church is made or of 3 parts:
- The Church Militant - the Church on earth.

- The Church Suffering - the Church going through final purification (1 Cor. 3:10-15, Matt. 5:25-26, Matt. 12:32, Matt. 18:32-35, Luke 12:58-59). Since nothing impure or unclean can enter Heaven (Rev. 21:27)., final purification is necessary for many.

- The Church Triumphant – the Church in Heaven (2 Cor. 5:6, Phil. 1:23, Heb. 12:1).

ALL of the parts make up the ONE BODY of Christ. Paul writes that ALL of the parts of the Body NEED each other (1 Cor. 12:12-20). It’s not up to YOU to change the will of GOD.

If that’s too much for you to handle – then maybe you should re-think some of your twisted beliefs . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Get over yourself BOL, I do not consider you or the Vatican as the authority to teach Scripture
Go waste the time of others

Just calling out heresy when it raises its ugly head . . .

 

[beechan]

I recognize they Call on Mary, as they have Said…. And Pray TO her.
Mary’s Body IS Dead, in the Earth. Not in Heaven.

When a man on Earth Prays “FOR” ( not “TO”another ) the prayer is For the Whole of that man…body, soul, spirit.

Yes my Bible says that.

Yes… and exactly Where IS “Your body”…?

My body is Already Dead… crucified with Jesus…My saved soul, quickened spirit… lives IN Christs Risen Body…
Until my own body is risen IN glory.

Bodily dead saints Bodily Raised out of their graves
And appeared to men on Earth with Jesus walking about..Whole?

Matt:27:52-53

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Why Christians Call Mary the Mother of God.

Nowhere in Scripture is Mary called 'the mother of God' The absence of the exact phrase "Mother of God" in Scripture does not refute the doctrine. The terms "Trinity" and "Incarnation" are not found verbatim in Scripture either, yet they describe biblical truths. Elizabeth was the first...

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[Taken]

Ahhh, yes - there's that "Gaslighter" slur again . . .

Just a Fact…
You speaking for me…same as you do For Others…
You deciding their … Thoughts, emotions and speaking For Them, what they have Not Said!

WOW - now THAT was quite the angry

Again Gaslighter…
How do you know my emotions?
Never did I say I was Angry…

You used up FOUR posts echoing the SAME nonsense . . .

You can call my speech nonsense all you please…
Not a mystery we disagree!

Again – your ENTIRE argument

I’m not arguing with you Gaslighter.
I am disagreeing with you.

can be reduced to your total rejection of the Communio0n of Saints.

No rejection Gaslighter…
Communication OF saints occurs every time Two saints ON Earth Converse!

Allow me to explain . . .

You mean without me Deciding your Emotions and disagreeing with you?

The Church is made or of 3 parts:
- The Church Militant - the Church on earth.

- The Church Suffering - the Church going through final purification (1 Cor. 3:10-15, Matt. 5:25-26, Matt. 12:32, Matt. 18:32-35, Luke 12:58-59). Since nothing impure or unclean can enter Heaven (Rev. 21:27)., final purification is necessary for many.

- The Church Triumphant – the Church in Heaven (2 Cor. 5:6, Phil. 1:23, Heb. 12:1).

Christs Church …are the Saved.

Seems you are talking about buildings…
Where: the unsaved, curious, are invited and the saved gather along with Them… and all are ministered to.

I notice Protestant Church Buildings usually post a marque “inviting anyone”.

Don’t notice that with Catholic Church buildings.

ALL of the parts make up the ONE BODY of Christ. Paul writes that ALL of the parts of the Body NEED each other (1 Cor. 12:12-20).

And “saints” in heaven need you FOR WHAT?? To be comforted, fed, adored, helped ?? Jesus with them is Not Sufficient to make them at peace and rest in comfort?

It’s not up to YOU to change the will of GOD.

It’s not up to you…to attempt to impose on saints in Heaven With The Lord God.

If that’s too much for you to handle – then maybe you should re-think some of your twisted beliefs . . .

No. I ‘ll stick with the Truth and Understanding the Lord God has Given me…

And you can be content with what your human appointed / elected popes decide For you.

See…? FREEWILL

I will keep in remembrance my post to you based on Scripture that you called nonsense, and ignored what Scripture actually teaches…

 

[Taken]

goto here:
#330

Why Christians Call Mary the Mother of God.

Nowhere in Scripture is Mary called 'the mother of God' The absence of the exact phrase "Mother of God" in Scripture does not refute the doctrine. The terms "Trinity" and "Incarnation" are not found verbatim in Scripture either, yet they describe biblical truths. Elizabeth was the first...

www.christianityboard.com

No thanks…

I already went TO here…

Heb 7:
[3] Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[beechan]

Get over yourself BOL, I do not consider you or the Vatican as the authority to teach Scripture
Go waste the time of others

OK, the Bible is your only authority.
so, let take a look at what your authority actually said.
Acts 15, church members argued on 'Must Gentiles follow Mosaic Law?'. When disagreements arose, Christians didn’t say, “Everyone check your scriptures.”
They asked: What did the apostles teach?
Council of Jerusalem was held. No Gospel quote settled it. Apostles met, debated, prayed, and issued a decision. The ruling was binding on churches.

Turn out, you are the one who do not follow your 'authority'!

 

[Dryhn]

OK, the Bible is your only authority.
so, let take a look at what your authority actually said.
Acts 15, church members argued on 'Must Gentiles follow Mosaic Law?'. When disagreements arose, Christians didn’t say, “Everyone check your Bible.”
They asked: What did the apostles teach?
Council of Jerusalem was held. No Gospel quote settled it. Apostles met, debated, prayed, and issued a decision. The ruling was binding on churches.

Turn out, you are the one who do not follow your 'authority'!

The Apostles wrote the 27 books of the NT & not the Vatican/Roman Catholic Church

 

[beechan]

The Apostles wrote the 27 books of the NT & not the Vatican/Roman Catholic Church

Among these 27 books, the gospel of Matthew clearly stated that Jesus gave the keys to heaven to Peter and his church......not to any Protestant XYZ Church.

Jesus also asked Peter to feed his sheep, attend HIS flocks.
Does it imply only Peter's flock is Jesus' flock?

 

[beechan]

The Apostles wrote the 27 books of the NT

check your biblical knowledge first!
Mark, Luke, James, and Jude are not apostles.

 

[Dryhn]

Among these 27 books, the gospel of Matthew clearly stated that Jesus gave the keys to heaven to Peter and his church......not to any Protestant XYZ Church.

Jesus also asked Peter to feed his sheep, attend HIS flocks.
Does it imply only Peter's flock is Jesus' flock?

Gal 2:7-9
ALL the apostles agreed who would teach who from that point on

Now who did they agree was to teach the Gospel to the gentiles/heathen/uncircumcison ? :)

 

[Dryhn]

check your biblical knowledge first!
Mark, Luke, James, and Jude are not apostles.

GOD's appointed holy men wrote the 27 books of the NT & not the Vatican/Roman Catholic Church

 

[beechan]

GOD's appointed holy men wrote the 27 books of the NT & not the Vatican/Roman Catholic Church

GOD's appointed holy men (not apostles any more?) wrote the 27 books of the NT.
good to see you correct your errors!

 

[Dryhn]

GOD's appointed holy men (not apostles any more?) wrote the 27 books of the NT.
good to see you correct your errors!

Did you say Jude was not an Apostle ?
Hmm, let's see :-"""Mark, Luke, James, and Jude are not apostles.""

OOPS, you wrong :)

 

[beechan]

Did you say Jude was not an Apostle ?
Hmm, let's see :-"""Mark, Luke, James, and Jude are not apostles.""

OOPS, you wrong :)


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well......things written by Catholics/vatican....have authority now!

 

[Dryhn]

well......things written by Catholics/vatican....have authority now!

Accuracy is important & I see that I missed disciples while rapidly typing

The 27 books of the NT were written by Apostles/Disciples

 

[beechan]

Accuracy is important & I see that I missed disciples while rapidly typing

The 27 books of the NT were written by Apostles/Disciples

This statement looks like the fig leaves on Adam, to hide your shame.