Both of you are wrong based on these verses.
Daniel 2:44
Daniel 7:14
Daniel 7:27
2 Peter 1:11
1 Corinthians 15:24
Ephesians 1:20-23
And if those weren't enough to completely shatter your argument, it would make no difference whatsoever because Jesus Himself made this statement:
"... All power and authority IS given unto Me in heaven and in earth."
Matthew 28:18
I rest my case.
LOL.....sorry, thrown out due to badly interpreted evidence....
Have you ever done a study in the book of Daniel? Apparently you have no idea what you are reading in the verses you cited.
In the closing chapter of his book, Daniel was told to do something that puts your understanding of his writings at odds with your interpretation.
Daniel 12:4-10...
“As for you, Daniel, keep the words secret, and seal up the book until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.”. . . . .
Then one said to the man clothed in linen, who was up above the waters of the stream: “How long will it be to the end of these marvelous things?”. . . as he raised his right hand and his left hand to the heavens and swore by the One who is alive forever: “It will be for an appointed time, appointed times, and half a time. As soon as the dashing to pieces of the power of the holy people comes to an end, all these things will come to their finish.”
8 Now as for me, I heard, but I could not understand; so I said: “O my lord, what will be the outcome of these things?”
9 Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end. 10 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand.”
Daniel was told to seal up the prophesies in his book (written some 500 years before Jesus was born) until “the time of the end”. According to Daniel’s prophesy in ch 2:44, Daniel had interpreted a divinely inspired dream for Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar, concerning the march of world powers after Babylon, which was the dominant world power of the day and the empire that held God’s people captive according to God’s direction. He was punishing them for their disobedience.
After the foretold Babylonian conquest by Cyrus, the Medo-Persians came to have dominion over the Jewish people. As foretold, Medo-Persia was in turn overthrown by Greece, under Alexander the Great, and then Rome through its conquests, was the dominant world power when Jesus was born.
Jesus himself had prophesied that Jerusalem (which had always represented the seat of God’s worship and the location of his temple) would fall by the edge of the sword until a certain time period had expired....
Luke 21:20-24....
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But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it, 22 for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written. . . . .24 They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.” (ESV)
This was speaking about Daniel’s prophesy concerning “the times of the Gentiles” or the domination of God’s people by gentile nations until those times expired. Since Rome was ruling at the time Jesus spoke those words in reference to Daniel’s prophesy, it was not the time for the Kingdom to “come” until two more world powers dominated the world.
Since Rome was not conquered, but rather fell due to its own decadence, out of the ashes of Rome came Britannia, who conquered many nations down to the time when the Kingdom of God would step in and bring all world powers to nothing. In “the time of the end” Britain would ally itself politically with its estranged children, the USA. This dual world power was to be the dominant ruling authority when God’s kingdom would carry out what is written in Daniel 2:44. It was “in the days of those kings” that the Kingdom would “come”.....we are presently staring down the barrel of the greatest tribulation in the history of mankind....(Matthew 24:21)...the prelude to Armageddon.
So your assertion.....
“Jesus' kingdom HAD very much come when He presented the Lord's Prayer to His disciples” is very much in error.
The chief representative of God’s kingdom, (its future King) was walking the earth and proclaiming the benefits of his coming rulership, which he said in the model prayer (that became known as “The Lord’s Prayer”) was to “come” so that God’s will could “be done on earth as it is in heaven”.
Who in their right mind could argue that God’s will has been seen to be “done on earth as it is in heaven” when it is under the control and influence of the one Jesus called “the ruler of this world”? (1 John 5:19) What was the purpose of the devil offering Jesus “all the kingdoms of the world” at that time if they were already his? (Luke 4:5-8)
John 14:28-31....
“You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. 29 And now I have told you before it takes place, so that when it does take place you may believe. 30 I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no claim on me, 31 but I do as the Father has commanded me, so that the world may know that I love the Father.” (ESV)
We are living in “the days of those kings” that Daniel spoke about.....the time has come for the kingdom of God to take control of this earth before wicked humans destroy it with their petty political squabbles and threats of nuclear weapons. (Revelation 11:18) The earth and all who inhabit it are now at greater risk than at any other time in history......so take stock and learn from what the Bible teaches. Your knowledge is woefully lacking I’m afraid....the truth is there for those not blinded by the devil....they will be the last to know, because they believe the lies that he has fed them. (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)
Time is running out for this world. It’s time to decide which “god” we serve.
