1. Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Why is highly effective hydroxychloroquine under attack ?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Enoch111, May 19, 2020.

  1. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,438
    Likes Received:
    7,271
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Canada
    Ever since dirt-cheap hydroxychloroquine has been recommended to fight Wuhan virus, it has been savagely attacked by the media and the so-called experts. And Anthony Fauci – who knows better – has been undermining its use from day one.

    Now that President Trump publicly announced that he is taking Dr. Zelenko’s treatment, everyone on the Left is up in arms and attacking Trump (for protecting himself). So it is the Trump-haters, the Leftists, the Globalists, and Big Pharma who stand to lose while the general population stands to win.


    Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko sent a letter to all medical professionals around the world on March 23, 2020 (reproduced below), with copies to President Trump and Mark Meadows to let the world know that he had an extremely effective treatment for COVID-19.

    Had Mr. Trump immediately replaced Fauci and Birx with Zelenko, and made every effort to get this treatment into the hands of all doctors throughout the USA, it is conceivable that thousands of lives could have been saved. And had he allowed Zelenko to handle any briefings, he could have saved himself a lot of grief. But even now, after announcing his own personal regimen, Trump is holding back and talking about forced vaccinations. So something seems to be rotten in Washington, and Mr. Trump needs to divest himself of all the saboteurs, and also stop sabotaging himself.
    ************************************************************************

    Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko
    Board Certified Family Practitioner
    501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950
    845-238-0000
    March 23, 2020

    To all medical professionals around the world:


    My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.

    As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc).

    Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results:
    1. Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated.
    2. Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated.
    3. Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2).


    My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:
    1. Hydroxychloroquine 200 mg twice a day for 5 days
    2. Azithromycin 500 mg once a day for 5 days
    3. Zinc sulfate 220 mg once a day for 5 days


    The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.

    Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen. [Note: since then he has administered this to at least 700 patients]

    Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.

    In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives.

    With much respect,

    Dr. Zev Zelenko


    cc: President Donald J. Trump; Mr. Mark Meadows, Chief of Staff
     
    Nancy, Willie T, Taken and 3 others like this.
  2. Justadude

    Justadude Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,420
    Likes Received:
    525
    Faith:
    Agnostic
    Country:
    United States
    Fox News is part of the conspiracy too! Guess you can't trust them anymore. :rolleyes:

    Fox News Host Warns Viewers After Trump Says He’s Taking Hydroxychloroquine: ‘This. Will. Kill. You.’

    Moments after President Donald Trump shockingly declared that he has been taking the controversial anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine as preventive treatment for the coronavirus, Fox News host Neil Cavuto warned viewers that the drug could literally kill them.

    “All right, that was stunning,” Cavuto gasped after Trump’s remarks concluded. “The President of the United States just acknowledged that he’s taking hydroxychloroquine, a drug that is really meant to treat malaria and lupus. The president insisted that it has enormous benefits for patients either trying to prevent or already have COVID-19.”

    The veteran Fox News anchor went on to note that while the president in the past has said “what have you got to lose” regarding taking the drug, several recent studies showed that vulnerable people do “have one thing to lose—their lives.”

    Cavuto highlighted the results from clinical trials and extensive studies that revealed no noticeable efficacy in treating COVID-19, including a recent government-funded Veterans Affairs study that found more deaths associated with coronavirus patients who took the drug as a treatment.

    “The VA study to which the president alluded wasn’t a loaded political one, it was a test on patients there,” Cavuto declared. “And those who took it in a vulnerable population including those with respiratory and other conditions, they died.”

    “I want to stress again, If you are taking this as a preventative treatment to ward off the virus or in a worst-case scenario, you are dealing with the virus, and you are in this vulnerable population, it will kill you,” the Fox host strongly stated. “I cannot stress that enough. This. Will. Kill. You.”

    After pointing out that the Food and Drug Administration has warned against the use of the drug due to serious side effects such as “serious heart rhythm problems in patients with COVID-19,” Cavuto brought on a doctor to discuss Trump’s announcement, who said he was “very surprised” by Trump’s revelation.

    “As far as our treatment of COVID-19 patients, whether you are slightly ill or very ill, we have seen no effect whatsoever with this drug,” St. Joseph University Hospital Chairman Dr. Bob Lahita said, expressing additional concerns about the potential for fatal arrhythmia.​
     
  3. Giuliano

    Giuliano Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,484
    Likes Received:
    2,638
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    We are saved!

    From another thread:
    Yes, Trump's been played by almost everyone; but this Zev Zelenko sounds like a real patriot, a really sensible and honest fellow.

    What's this? He's being investigated by the DOJ? Of course he would be. You know, the deep state and all that.

    Could it be Mike Pence who told Trump this drug "couldn't hurt"? Does Mike Pence want to become President that much? Oh let's hope not, but you never can tell nowadays. Or is the White House medical staff part of the deep state, answerable to Obama and Hillary? Would they like to see Trump kill himself?
     
    Nancy likes this.
  4. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,438
    Likes Received:
    7,271
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Canada
    Anti-Trumper Neil Cavuto was simply FEAR-MONGERING. Here are the facts and the truth.

    PART I
    VA chief rebuts 'phony' study discrediting 'Trump drug'

    Agency dispenses 42,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine daily

    By WND Staff
    Published May 19, 2020 at 7:16pm

    [Please note that I have added sub-headings to make it more helpful]

    1. VA AFFAIRS SECRETARY SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT

    Responding to what he called inaccurate media reporting, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie criticized a widely cited study of veterans that concluded treating COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine was unsafe. Speaking to reporters Tuesday afternoon during a Cabinet meeting at the White House, Wilkie said the Department of Defense and the Veterans Administration have been using hydroxychloroquine for 65 years for diseases such as malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. "On any given day, the VA uses 42,000 doses of this drug," he said.

    2. THE ANTI-TRUMP MEDIA WERE IN A UPROAR BECAUSE OF TRUMP

    Trump caused an uproar Monday afternoon when he revealed to reporters he's been taking hydroxychloroquine every day for the past couple of weeks as a preventative measure against the coronavirus.

    3. THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA (UVA) STUDY WAS A SHAM

    Wilkie emphasized that the study in question was not conducted by the VA as has been widely reported. As WND has reported, it was a "UVA" study, short for the University of Virginia. "Researchers took VA numbers and they did not clinically review them," Wilkie said. "They were not peer reviewed. They did not even look at ... the various comorbidities that the patients who were referenced in that study had." The researchers at the University of Virginia School of Medicine said they found that more patients who took hydroxychlorquine died than those who didn't. Renowned infectious disease specialist Dr. Stephen Smith –
    who has promoted hydroxychloroquine as a "game changer," reporting success among his patients – has called the Virginia study a "sham."

    4. NEIL CAVUTO IS AN ANTI-TRUMPER AND TRIED TO ATTACK TRUMP WHILE FEAR-MONGERING

    But after Trump's news conference Monday, Fox News anchor Neil Cavuto pointed to the results of the UVA study as cause for alarm, telling viewers people in the "risky population" or who have the virus will die if they follow the president's example.

    5. NY GOVERNOR CUOMO ASKED FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOSES OF HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE!

    On Tuesday, however, the VA secretary emphasized that he received clear instructions from the president "to preserve and protect life." "Those of us who have had a military life -- some of us around this table -- we've been taking this drug for years," he said of hydroxychloroquine. "And what we did when this virus first hit us was to every means necessary to help preserve life," he said. "So I want to knock down the story that this is somehow the VA going back on what the president told us to do, which was to use every means possible to protect and preserve the lives of our veterans," he said. Wilkie pointed out that New York Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo asked for "tens of thousands of doses" of hydroxychloroquine for "frontline workers."

    6. FDA HAD ALREADY APPROVED HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE FOR DECADES AND "OFF LABEL" USE IS LEGITIMATE

    Wilkie had been asked by President Trump to respond after a reporter asked the president why he was taking hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic when the FDA has advised that it not be used outside of a hospital setting. Trump said that is not what he had been told, calling on Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar for input. Azar pointed out that hydroxychloroquine has been approved by the FDA for decades for treatment of malaria, lupus and RA "Once a drug has been approved and on the market, a doctor can prescribe it for "off-label" purposes, which are "indications that are not yet proven and not yet on the label," he explained. Azar referenced the "right to try" legislation passed under Trump's leadership that allows experimental therapies with existing drug regimens. The HHS secretary noted that many studies of hydroxychloroquine have been done later in the progression of COVID-19. He said his agency is still working on controlled studies earlier in the progression of the disease in mild to moderate cases.

    7. TRUMP CORRECTLY CALLED THE UVA STUDY PHONY

    Calling the study on veterans "phony," Trump said the patients reviewed were "extremely sick people" near death with heart problems or diabetes. He pointed to "great studies" on the drug from Italy, France, Spain, the U.S., and other countries. The president emphasized that taking the drug as a prophylactic is a "line of defense" against the virus that is "very inexpensive" but must be done in consultation with a doctor. "I think it gives you an additional level of safety," he said. "But you can ask many doctors who are in favor of it. Many frontline workers won't go there unless they have hydroxy."

    8. HCQ GOT A BAD RAP ONLY BECAUSE TRUMP PRAISED IT

    Trump quipped that it's "gotten a bad reputation only because I'm promoting it." "So obviously I'm a very bad promoter," he said. "If anybody else were promoting it, they would say this is the greatest thing ever." Earlier Tuesday, Trump said that along with vaccines, many therapies are in the works, including a "cure." "They are working on a cure, and we have more than one doing it, and very advanced," he said.
     
    Helen and Reggie Belafonte like this.
  5. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,438
    Likes Received:
    7,271
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Canada
    PART II
    9. INFECTIOUS DISEASE EXPERT SMITH EXPOSED THE UVA STUDY AS BOGUS
    The infectious disease expert Smith argued
    in an April 28 interview with Fox News' Laura Ingraham
    that in the University of Virginia study, not one dosage was listed of hydroxychloroquine or azithromycin and "not one person in that paper saw one COVID patient." Published in the medRxiv online depository, the study was not peer-reviewed. It analyzed the medical records of 368 male veterans hospitalized with confirmed coronavirus infection at Veterans Health Administration medical centers who died or were discharged by April 11. About 28% of patients who were given hydroxychloroquine in addition to the usual care died compared to 11% who received routine care alone, the study concluded. But only three of the researchers were physicians and all of them were trained in ophthalmology, Smith argued. "It's a sham. It's a shame on UVA," he said. "I sent an email to the dean of the medical school at UVA. I have not heard back from them. It is an embarrassment that UVA allows this thing to be called a study."

    10. 6,200 PHYSICIANS WORLDWIDE FOUND HCQ THE BEST DRUG AVAILABLE

    In early April, a poll of 6,200 physicians in 30 countries found hydroxychloroquine to be the best drug available to treat COVID-19. At the same time, Smith declared he had seen 100% success in his treatment of 72 seriously ill COVID-19 patients with hydroxchloroquine and azithromycin. "I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic," he said in an April 1 interview with Ingraham. "I'm very serious." "It's a game-changer. An absolute game-changer."

    11. CAVUTO WAS MORE INTERESTED IN FEAR-MONGERING THAN FACTS
    Cavuto: 'This will kill you'. On Monday, Cavuto cited the University of Virginia study, saying it found that "those with vulnerable conditions, respiratory conditions, heart ailment, they died." He also pointed to a recent study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association of 1,438 individuals in the New York City area who were patients in 25 different hospitals in March. It found no statistical difference between treatment with hydroxychloroquine and no treatment. Another study in Manhattan showed the same. The Fox News host insisted the Virginia study on veterans "wasn't a loaded politically one." "It was a test on patients there, and those who took it in a vulnerable population, including those with respiratory or other conditions, they died," he said. "I want to stress again, they died," said Cavuto. "If you are in a risky population here, and you are taking this as a preventative treatment to ward off the virus, or in a worse case scenario you are dealing with the virus, and you are in this population, it will kill you," he said. "I cannot stress enough. This will kill you."

    12. DOCTORS INTERVIEWED BY CAVUTO CONTRADICTED EACH OTHER
    Cavuto then interviewed Dr. Bob Lahita, the chairman of medicine at St. Joseph University Hospital, who said he was surprised by Trump's statement. The physician said he and his colleagues used it two and a half months ago on patients who were very ill, "and we saw absolutely no effect." However, Cavuto then spoke to another physician, Fox News medical contributor Dr. Janette Nesheiwat, who said she thought it was "very smart" for Trump to take the drug as a "prophylactic preventative measure" after members of his administration tested positive for the virus. She cautioned that people who have "underlying cardiac arrhythmia" should be careful, using it only if they are "on their death bed" as a last resort.

    13. DR JANET NESHEIWAT WAS TREMENDOUSLY IMPRESSED WITH THIS DRUG THROUGH PERSONAL PRESCRIBING
    The doctor has personally prescribed hydroxychloroquine to many of her patients. "For some of them, they said it helped tremendously," she said, while for others "it didn't make much of a change." She said it's best to consult one's doctor. "It's not going to be good for everyone, but it may be beneficial and potentially lifesaving for others," she said. Nesheiwat said physicians should have hydroxychloroquine "in their tool box" along with another drug approved for FDA emergency use amid clinical trials, remdesivir, "while we wait for a vaccine to become approved and for other drugs to get on the market." 'Doctors like me out in the real world'

    14. OUSTED DR RICK BRIGHT WAS A BOGUS WHISTLE BLOWER

    The hot-button issue came up at a House hearing last Wednesday featuring the testimony of ousted federal vaccine official-turned whistleblower Dr. Rick Bright. Trump noted Monday that Bright signed off on the FDA's emergency use of hydroxychloroquine. However, Bright said in his whistleblower complaint that he opposed the use of the drug for COVID-19 while Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar sought an "expanded use protocol." Bright said the emergency-use authorization was a compromise. At the hearing, two lawmakers who are physicians, Reps. Michael Burgess of Texas and Larry Bucshon of Indiana, said they had heard from many doctors who have reported success treating patients with protocols of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, and sometimes zinc. "They are recording significant benefits if it is used early enough in the course," Burgess said.

    15. BRIGHT AND FAUCI ARE FALSELY TALKING ABOUT “ANECDOTAL REPORTS" INSTEAD OF ACTUAL STUDIES
    Bright testified to the committee Thursday he became aware of "the anecdotal reports" of hydroxychloroquine's efficacy with COVID-19 but said it hasn't shown in randomized studies "an overwhelming level of evidence that it has benefit."

    16. DR. LARRY BUCSHON EXPOSED DR BRIGHT’S HYPOCRISY
    Bucshon, however, noting he is a cardiovascular and thoracic surgeon who has been in health care for 30 years, said doctors "across the country will use drugs off-label in a circumstance where they don't have or they don't see a viable alternative." He acknowledged the need for double blind studies, but "in this situation, I think a little bit of understanding and leeway from the federal government is in order." "We do want to ensure the safety," he said, but hydroxychloroquine "has been proven safe for many, many years in appropriate doses." He acknowledged it can lead to cardiac arrhythmias if not used properly.

    17. STATES WERE WRONG TO TRY TO STOP DOCTORS FROM USING HCQ AND MAY HAVE CAUSED SERIOUS HARM
    "But when states tried to stop doctors from using [hydroxychloroquine], there was such a backlash they had to back away from it, because the physicians in the community wanted to use it," Bucshon said. "So doctors like me out in the real world, if things are working, even anecdotally, they're not going to wait for the government bureaucracy to approve it," he said. "This is why doctors are using it." The data eventually will show whether or not it should be used for COVID-19, he said, but lives are on the line now. "If two years from now we have the studies, and we say, 'Hey, that stuff really would have worked, and the government stopped that from being used,' if I was the family of a person that was stopped from getting hydroxychloroquine, I'd be pretty mad," the Indiana lawmaker said.
    VA chief rebuts 'phony' study descrediting 'Trump drug' - WND
     
    Taken, Helen and Reggie Belafonte like this.
  6. Justadude

    Justadude Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,420
    Likes Received:
    525
    Faith:
    Agnostic
    Country:
    United States
    Ah, "World Net Daily", or as it's more commonly known...."Whirled Nut Daily". Very appropriate for you.
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2020
    Rita and Giuliano like this.
  7. Giuliano

    Giuliano Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,484
    Likes Received:
    2,638
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    How many Republicans will be alive to vote if this kind of stuff keeps happening?

    Or will it work the other day with Democrats dying because they refuse to take hydroxycholorquine?
     
  8. 69chapels

    69chapels Member

    Messages:
    263
    Likes Received:
    1
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    [​IMG]
    burkesoutlet.com/Shop/Beauty-Full-Body-Massage-Glove-0324513467200/

    For the Right Breast, Area, its a "unclassified field area" ............... may provide some comfort. Like a Second Heart.

    (Minorities are opposed to any positive treatment, because, 99.999 Percent of them will die in a real "unified field" the bodies naturally design transitions in such fields, has been designed outside of their area of function, generations of sin) (in the scope of the arguments god allows for that, that are not in our direct means to modify/remove, in the human genome without euthanasia, loss of life)

    The Human Mind/Body, resonates. These people that are dying from the marker only, not a virus, are just unclean and die from more complicated reasons, requantified as, "climate change earth magnetic field to bio-magnetic field resonances". They are "living more clean", now then they would of been.

    You can rely on treatments to the body to a certain degree, depending on the progression of covid-19 ............. many people will die and there is no hope for them, you may not come to this conclusion, but everything will be resolved by the end of summer, by the end of this year.
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2020
  9. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,438
    Likes Received:
    7,271
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Canada
    Is that the best you can do when you encounter some serious factual reporting? Your liberal bias is astounding.
     
    Taken and Helen like this.
  10. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,438
    Likes Received:
    7,271
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Canada
    Here is a report that should give pause to those who think a vaccine will be the answer:

    EXPERTS SUGGEST £90 MILLION OXFORD UNIVERSITY CORONAVIRUS VACCINE DOESN’T WORK

    All the monkeys in the trials went on to get the virus

    Steve Watson | Infowars.com - MAY 19, 2020

    Scientists have expressed doubts over the effectiveness of a coronavirus vaccine that has been rushed to human trials, after all of the monkeys used in initial testing later contracted coronavirus.

    The British government has spent approximately £90 million on the research so far, however, Dr William Haseltine, a former Harvard Medical School professor, noted that the rhesus macaques monkeys who received the vaccine were found to have the same amount of virus in their noses as non-vaccinated monkeys in the trial.

    “All of the vaccinated monkeys treated with the Oxford vaccine became infected when challenged.” Dr Haseltine wrote, adding that “There was no difference in the amount of viral RNA detected from (nasal secretions) in the vaccinated monkeys as compared to the unvaccinated animals.”
    “Which is to say, all vaccinated animals were infected.” the doctor added.

    “It is crystal clear that the vaccine did not provide sterilising immunity to the virus challenge, the gold standard for any vaccine.” Dr Haseltine also said.

    [Jonathan] Ball, Professor of Molecular Biology at Nottingham University said that the ChAdOx1 nCov-19 vaccine findings are “concerning”.
    “The amount of virus genome detected in the noses of the vaccinated and un-vaccinated monkeys was the same and this is concerning.” Ball wrote. “If this represents infectious virus and a similar thing occurs in humans, then vaccinated people can still be infected and shed large amounts of virus.” he added, warning that “This could potentially spread to others in the community.”

    Eleanor Riley, a professor of immunology and infectious disease at Edinburgh University also said the number of antibodies produced was ‘insufficient’ to prevent infection and viral shedding.
    “If similar results were obtained in humans, the vaccine would likely provide partial protection against disease in the recipient but would be unlikely to reduce transmission in the wider community,” Riley said.

    While funding is pouring into vaccine trials, research from California claims to have discovered anti-bodies that can completely block COVID-19.

    San Diego based Sorrento Therapeutics announced that an antibody named STI-1499 stopped coronavirus from entering 100 percent of healthy human cells in petri dish experiments.
    The company has filed for emergency approval from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), promising that it can produce up to 200,000 doses of the antibody a month.

    In further research at the University of Washington School of Medicine in Seattle, another antibody, called S309, was found to effectively target the ‘spike proteins’ found on the outside of the coronavirus, that are key to the invasion of human cells.

    In a press release, researchers said that lab tests showed S309 attaches itself to the proteins, neutralizing them.
    It will be interesting to observe whether the ineffective vaccine or the effective antibody research gets more funding going forward.

    Experts Suggest £90 Million Oxford University Coronavirus Vaccine Doesn’t Work
     
    Taken, Scoot and Helen like this.
  11. Justadude

    Justadude Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,420
    Likes Received:
    525
    Faith:
    Agnostic
    Country:
    United States
    Ooh, and now Infowars! If you bring in the Gateway Pundit you'll hit the trifecta of crazy! :rolleyes:
     
    Giuliano likes this.
  12. Prayer Warrior

    Prayer Warrior Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,779
    Likes Received:
    2,329
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    Good article! I read a report of treatments where the zinc was not used, and the results were paltry compared to the results that the doctor in your article got. Here's another article about this doctor.

    Dr. Zelenko's miracle cures coronavirus | 14 Street Medical

    March 31, 2020​

    Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak

    Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a board-certified family practitioner in New York, after he successfully treated 350 coronavirus patients with 100 percent success using a cocktail of drugs: hydroxychloroquine, in combination with azithromycin (Z-Pak), an antibiotic to treat secondary infections, and zinc sulfate. Dr. Zelenko said he saw the symptom of shortness of breath resolved within four to six hours after treatment.

    Now, Dr. Zelenko provides updates on the treatment after he successfully treated 699 COVID-19 patients in New York. In an exclusive interview with former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Vladmir Zelenko shares the results of his latest study, which showed that out of his 699 patients treated, zero patients died, zero patients intubated, and four hospitalizations.

    Dr. Zelenko said the whole treatment costs only $20 over a period of 5 days with 100% success. He defines success as “Not to die.” Dr. Zelenko first posted his Facebook video message last week calling on President Trump to “advise the country that they should be taking this medication.”​
     
    Cristo Rei, Helen and Enoch111 like this.
  13. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,438
    Likes Received:
    7,271
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    Canada
    Your cheap shots are not even funny and no one is impressed. But they do reveal how you (and all Liberals and Leftists) have degraded yourselves by your willingness to believe all the Fake News media, but attack all conservative sources of information.

    So, in order to enlighten those who want FACTS -- not Leftist baloney -- here's an article from WND which exposes Rick Bright (who is NOT a medical doctor) as being an Obama-appointed saboteur who has caused the loss of thousands of lives. I call it "criminal sabotage".

    CRIMINAL SABOTAGE BY RICK BRIGHT

    Unprecedented: Obama bureaucrat brags about blocking HCQ drug

    Exclusive: Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D., decries gov't interference with physicians' medical decisions

    By Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D.
    Published May 20, 2020 at 12:48pm

    How could a cheap, effective drug, FDA-approved and in use worldwide since 1955, suddenly be restricted for outpatient use by American physicians? On March 28, 2020, as physicians worldwide were seeing striking success using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, the FDA erected bureaucratic barriers.

    Rick Bright, Ph.D., is an FDA bureaucrat, vaccine researcher and was appointed by President Obama on Nov. 15, 2016, to head BARDA (Biomedical Advance Research and Development Authority, a sub-agency of the FDA). In an unprecedented move, Bright expanded his power and claimed credit for being the person imposing his will on all of us.

    In an appalling admission, Bright said: "Specifically, and contrary to misguided directives, I limited the broad use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, promoted by the administration as a panacea, but which clearly lack scientific merit." Meanwhile, he promoted both remdesivir, a never-approved experimental antiviral in development by Gilead Sciences, and a vaccine for COVID-19. Early effective use of the older, safe and available hydroxychloroquine, whose patents had expired decades ago, would decrease demand for these new products.

    Rick Bright's dictatorial decree limits the use of chloroquine (CQ) and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) from the National Strategic Stockpile in COVID-19 to hospitalized patients only. States are using Bright's fiat to impose broad restrictions limiting the drugs' availability for physicians to use for outpatients to help them recover without hospitalization.
    [Note: the question arises as to why Trump failed to immediately fire Bright and rescind his criminal restrictions]

    In other countries, early use in outpatients is changing the life-and-death equation by reducing severity and spread of illness, greatly reducing the need for hospitalization and ventilators and markedly reducing deaths.

    By his own admission, Rick Bright, who is not a physician,knowingly and unilaterally countermanded Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar, Adm. Giroir in charge of Public Health Service and the president of the United States, who had directed BARDA to establish a Nationwide Expanded Access Investigational New Drug ("IND") protocol for chloroquine, which would provide significantly greater outpatient access for the drug than would an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). Unlike an EUA, a Nationwide Expanded Access IND protocol would make the drug available for the treatment of COVID-19 outside a hospital setting at physicians' medical discretion based on patients' needs.

    How does one non-physician bureaucrat have such power with impunity? How can one person brag about blocking physicians' attempt to reduce hospitalization and deaths during a national emergency?
    [Note: and how could this man be allowed to even be in office when Trump promised to Drain the Swamp?]

    It is a falsehood to say that the administration promoted HCQ as a "panacea" or that this medicine "clearly lacks scientific merit." Both statements are contradicted by video recordings of presidential briefings, by NIH/CDC studies going back 15 years, and by U.S. and worldwide clinical outcomes studies in COVID-19.

    It is unprecedented to restrict physicians from prescribing FDA-approved drugs for a newly discovered use – "off-label." This is contrary to FDA regulations in place since World War II.

    Basic science studies published in 2005 from our own CDC and NIH showed clearly that CQ and HCQ work early in SARS-CoV to block viral entry and multiplication, and suggested that they would not work as well in late-stage disease when the viral load had become huge. When SARS-CoV-1 waned and disappeared by late 2003, the drugs were not submitted for FDA-approval for this coronavirus.

    In 2019, when Chinese doctors recognized the deadly impact of SARS-CoV-2, they began trying known and available anti-viral medicines, especially CQ and HCQ, based on 15-year-old studies. They shared information with South Korea, India, Turkey, Iran and several other countries, which also began quickly and successfully using CQ and HCQ, alone or with azithromycin. Later, Brazil, Israel, Costa Rica, Australia and others followed, with good results.

    Based on these initial clinical reports, President Trump said, at an early press briefing, that CQ and HCQ "offered hope."
    [Note: President Trump failed to fire Fauci, Birx, and Redfield, and made such a weak and equivocal statement when a strong, unequivocal statement was required. So Mr. Trump must take as much blame as Rick Bright]

    More studies have replicated these findings. HCQ given within the first week of symptoms, especially with zinc, can prevent the virus from entering your body's cells and taking over, much like people use locks and alarms to stop burglaries. Waiting until you are in the ICU is like installing home locks and alarm system after burglars have invaded, vandalized your home and stolen all your valuables. The drugs cannot reliably undo the damage from the exaggerated immune response, or cytokine storm, triggered by COVID-19.

    Examples from the world data on May 18, 2020, which is updated daily, show how Third World countries are faring far better than the U.S., where entrenched bureaucrats, governors, and medical and pharmacy boards are interfering with physicians' medical decisions.


    Instead of orchestrating a war on HCQ, the media should be asking key questions, such as:
    1. How does ONE person, by his own admission, block directives from his superiors to expand availability of HCQ for outpatients and nursing home patients in the U.S.?
    2. What is the cost in lives and economic damage resulting from one person's decision to restrict physicians' independent medical decision-making?
    3. How many nursing home deaths could have been prevented if physicians had been allowed early access to HCQ?
    4. Why are U.S. doctors and nurses prevented from using HCQ prophylactically when workers in China, South Korea, India, Brazil, Argentina, Israel, Australia, Turkey, France and other countries can be protected?
    5. Why does the U.S., with its a much more sophisticated medical infrastructure, have a much higher mortality rate than poor countries?
    [Note: you can be sure that the Leftist MSM will never address the hard questions to the Deep State operatives]


    Bright's disastrous bureaucratic decision may well be remembered as one of the worst preventable medical tragedies in our time. Never again should one government employee be allowed unrestrained power without oversight, and be allowed to make a sweeping order interfering with the prescribing authority of front-line physicians trying to save lives.


    Unprecedented: Obama bureaucrat brags about blocking HCQ drug - WND
     
    Reggie Belafonte likes this.
  14. marks

    marks Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,597
    Likes Received:
    5,525
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    That reminds me of my all-time favorite bumper sticker:

    upload_2020-5-20_16-2-38.png
     
    Giuliano and Justadude like this.
  15. Justadude

    Justadude Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,420
    Likes Received:
    525
    Faith:
    Agnostic
    Country:
    United States
    Then by the same token, I guess we must conclude that all conservatives and right-wingers are gullible conspiracy theorists who believe whatever their goofball websites/supermarket tabloids tell them. :D
     
    Giuliano likes this.
  16. Rita

    Rita Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    869
    Likes Received:
    1,296
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    @Enoch111 Just thought I would let you know they are trialling this drug on front line nurses in Brighton ( where I live ) and Oxford in the UK to see if it acts as a preventative - not sure how long the trial will go on for , but if I hear anymore I will add it to this thread x
    Rita
     
    Taken and Helen like this.
  17. Giuliano

    Giuliano Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,484
    Likes Received:
    2,638
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    It makes them happy, I guess, to find sourcess that tell them how right they are. If that takes swallowing conspiracies theories, who cares? If it makes them happy, that's what matters.

    Ha, the same rule often seems to apply to religion too.
     
  18. Giuliano

    Giuliano Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,484
    Likes Received:
    2,638
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    I think the concern may be over who it might not be safe for. It's probably safe for most people; but there may be some people it's not.
     
  19. Taken

    Taken Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,458
    Likes Received:
    3,387
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United States
    Why is highly effective hydroxychloroquine under attack ?
    ^ OP

    Because:
    Shoddy Testing and Testing reports.

    The Cov-19 is a "respiratory attacking" (influenzia) strain.
    Flus are nothing new...and the transmission between humans ... is nothing new...
    it's the "Strains" that appear as New...
    * finding the Source
    * trying to discover the damage to human cells.
    * trying to find a "quick" prohibiter
    * trying to find a "quick" treatment

    Fact is:
    * more than HALF of Americans:
    * * already regularly Take Prescription Drugs
    * * already live in and frequent busy cities businesses, offices, schools, etc.
    * * Mixing One drug with another Can BE Fatal.

    * * people LIE about what non-prescription drugs they regularly consume.
    * * popping a Pill IS NOT an Instant "CURE" for anything.
    * * people Already on a Doctors Care Regiment of
    hydroxychloroquine
    (Per their own "history" of health issues have been successful in NOT Contracting the latest Strain of influenza.)

    ** There are NO KNOWN "Cures" for Influenzia...

    ** There ARE practitioners ... scientists...Who "experiment" in "Trials", Testing" per an Individual's "medical" history (Physicians) AND in labs (Scientists), without Consideration of individual humans Existing Medical health issues.

    ** Its ALL guesswork, "AFTER the Fact" of
    Humans showing signs of having contracted symptoms of a respiratory health issue.

    * * Its ALL guesswork, (injecting FEAR and Testing Control) projecting "Numbers" of WHO will be infected.

    * * political "Agendas" rule the times we live in... Opinions, Commentaries and Half-Truth Quips Blast the Headlines as "gospel TRUTHS".

    The Government is not your Daddy. You should know Yourself better that a Stranger. Get to Know and Trust God...
    He is the answer in All things.

    Glory to God,
    Taken

     
    Helen likes this.
  20. Rita

    Rita Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    869
    Likes Received:
    1,296
    Faith:
    Christian
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    I think that is why they are doing trials rather than say ‘ it’s okay ‘ .I would presume that it also depends on what other meds you are taking, which is a problem with many drugs.
    I guess there will always the stupid people who just decide to take it rather than find our if it is okay for them to take it, especially when there is so much fear about this virus. I am amazed about many people ‘ hear ‘ something in the press and totally believe it without using their common sense. Equally, the president is at liberty to take what he wants under medical supervision, but as with everything tases days it is all used to argue a point from one side or the other !
    Rita
     
    Justadude and Giuliano like this.
Loading...