Why is there a harvest of the earth?

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Because the earth is God's field and 6 days we work the fields and on the 7th day we rest. The timing of God's 6 days is 6,000 of our years and then comes the harvest of SOULS to get ready for the new earth that will come and preparing the new rulers before the foundation of the new world.
However the last 1,000 yrs. or Day of Rest is for the earth to rest from all the destruction that has come about from the blood of men the old cities, all of the chemicals man has created, to restore the plants and trees the soil the animals who are being pushed out and starved due to the evil ways of man under the devils direction.
This Day will not be instantly at rest because we have the Great Supper of God/Armageddon that clears away much of the chaos with those who have chosen to reject Christ, but little by little as the Lord and the saints with him shall reclaim it and purify it, the more rest the earth will get after the children of God are birthed and caught up.
The angels are the ministers who have been raised up in the Word and are gathering in the harvest and the Lord is sorting them out according to their works (Letters to the Churches in Rev). Those who are not walking in the Word being faithful to Christ but still walking in the world's way are taken out and cast into the fire... either the line of fire as in war, or in the heat of anything that we see around us that God is bringing upon the world, such as storms, hurricanes, sunames, wild animal attacks, earthquakes, volcanos, oil spills to kill of the fish and turning the water red, nation rising up against their own nations, God is gathering the armies of the nations around Israel getting everyone lined up to carry out His Word that He told them He would bring to pass. God is not a fortune teller, He wrote the Book and told us the end from the beginning and His Word does not return Void! As long as there remains and earth there will be seedtime and harvest of the souls, to purify a people for God.
Rom 8:16-23
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
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Eph 3:21-4:1
21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
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Gen 9:1
22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.
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Matt 13:37-43
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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Rev 11:18
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead(spiritually dead), that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
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Titus 2:11-15
11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
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just curious, but where in the bible you get this 6 day 6,000 year timing as for God harvest?.
 

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just curious, but where in the bible you get this 6 day 6,000 year timing as for God harvest?.
The 7 day week represents the same 7 days of creation. God worked 6 days and rested on the seventh.
Also keep in mind that God says to plant for 6 yrs and then let the soil rest to replenish the soils nutrients. The same for the whole earth, it has to replenish after 6,000 yrs(6days of Gods) and Rest of 1 day or 1,000 yrs.

2 Peter 3:7-8
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
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Matt 13:39-40
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
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The earth is God's garden and for 6,000 years of our Adamic race in Gen.1:2 the earth has been in seedtime, and the harvest is on the 7th day or the last 1,000 yr. end of this world being the millennium where Christ will reign to cleanse the earth to prepare a place for the Bride heavenly Jerusalem to come down after the GWTJ and the new heaven and earth.
This is not counting the world of Gen 1:1 that He flooded for that was not of this world but was when the first Adam who was created both male and female before all other things and before the LORD divided him to two. You will notice that those born on the sixth day were already male and female and created After the other things.

2 Peter 2:5
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
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Gen 8:22
22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.
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Eph 3:21
21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
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2 a,
I not saying you're right or wrong, I hear your point.
The earth is God's garden and for 6,000 years of our Adamic race in Gen.1:2 the earth has been in seedtime, and the harvest is on the 7th day or the last 1,000 yr. end of this world being the millennium where Christ will reign to cleanse the earth to prepare a place for the Bride heavenly Jerusalem to come down after the GWTJ and the new heaven and earth.

This is not counting the world of Gen 1:1 that He flooded for that was not of this world but was when the first Adam who was created both male and female before all other things and before the LORD divided him to two. You will notice that those born on the sixth day were already male and female and created After the other things.


the harvest is on the 7th day or the last 1,000 yr. end of this world being the millennium


question, is we who are in Christ Jesus have entered into his rest. Hebrews 4:1 "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them, (them in the O.T.), but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief".

now this rest is the 7th. God is still in rest. "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. so "TODAY" is that day. supportive scripture, Hebrews 1:1 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds". these LAST DAYS?. which have been over 2,000 years since these word was written. so as the Holy Spirit said, "TODAY" if ye will hear his voice. so the last day couldn't be the 1,000 year millennium, after 2,000 have passed. but Hebrews states day(s) meaning more than one.

but I do understand what you are getting at. and thanks again.

Love and peace
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101G said:
2 a,
I not saying you're right or wrong, I hear your point.
The earth is God's garden and for 6,000 years of our Adamic race in Gen.1:2 the earth has been in seedtime, and the harvest is on the 7th day or the last 1,000 yr. end of this world being the millennium where Christ will reign to cleanse the earth to prepare a place for the Bride heavenly Jerusalem to come down after the GWTJ and the new heaven and earth.

This is not counting the world of Gen 1:1 that He flooded for that was not of this world but was when the first Adam who was created both male and female before all other things and before the LORD divided him to two. You will notice that those born on the sixth day were already male and female and created After the other things.


the harvest is on the 7th day or the last 1,000 yr. end of this world being the millennium


question, is we who are in Christ Jesus have entered into his rest. Hebrews 4:1 "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them, (them in the O.T.), but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief".

now this rest is the 7th. God is still in rest. "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. so "TODAY" is that day. supportive scripture, Hebrews 1:1 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds". these LAST DAYS?. which have been over 2,000 years since these word was written. so as the Holy Spirit said, "TODAY" if ye will hear his voice. so the last day couldn't be the 1,000 year millennium, after 2,000 have passed. but Hebrews states day(s) meaning more than one.

but I do understand what you are getting at. and thanks again.

Love and peace
101G
Thank you for your serious search for truth 101G, it is refreshing! Not that I am saying that I am teaching you anything that was not given to me, but that you are sincere in your responses and obviously know much truth already : ) most appreciated.

There are two different types of rest. One is when we physically do no work such as business to make ourselves money.
The other is when we rest in God to have faith to believe Him for all our needs in our wilderness walk, learning how to grow in the Word by the Spirit in our rebirth as we shed our fleshly lusts that will eventually bring us peace and teaches us to depend on God and not ourselves or man.

The Hebrew children did no physical work on the Sabbath so they kept that, yet they still could not enter into God's rest due to unbelief. They could not allow themselves to believe in God who they could not see(The Just shall walk by faith and not by sight) to take care of them in Their wilderness walk to their promised land even when they seen the promises of God that their clothes and shoes did not wear out, He brought them manna and parted the Red Sea, they still lived in unbelief and unrest and many wanted to return to Egypt where things Seemed better because they could SEE their desires and did not have to rest in FAITH that God would supply them.
They grumbled all the time even to the point of telling Moses they wanted him to hear from God for them because it was torment and hurt their ears. They could not enter into rest because they could not hear and obey God's Word and rebellion brings restlessness and torment to our souls when we separate our selves from God's Word. That is why we must draw near to Jesus to enter into peace by humbling ourselves to the truth of the Word.
So there will be the 7th day rest or 1,000 yr. millennium as the Bible tells us where Satan will be chained and the earth will begin to replenish her soil after birthing the sons of God.
But right now we are to be in rest from our own works of trying to provide, protect and heal our own self as we did before we knew God. We must lean on Christ/The Word to learn how to walk in the Word/Jesus as the Spirit teaches us trusting in our Father for all our needs when we abide in His Word and the Word abides in us.

We may have jobs that supply funds for needs, but our work is to do the will of God in that place and to sow Christ/The Word in the soil of men's hearts where God has planted us, as ambassadors for the kingdom of God. And God rewards us for our working His fields because again, we are learning to look to God as our source for all things, not our own self to be our own god nor the hand of man. : )
 

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thanks a,
but I'm looking from a spiritual prospective. the work we rest from is our sins. not the physical work. for the Lord is master of the sabbath. Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ". my covenant is a spiritual one, circumcise of the heart on the EIGHTH DAY, not carnal, we walk by faith.
so my rest is from sin. not from works.

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101G said:
thanks a,
but I'm looking from a spiritual prospective. the work we rest from is our sins. not the physical work. for the Lord is master of the sabbath. Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ". my covenant is a spiritual one, circumcise of the heart on the EIGHTH DAY, not carnal, we walk by faith.
so my rest is from sin. not from works.

101G
Yes, this is the spiritual understanding. We as children of God are not the lawless kind, as I said, our rest comes when Jesus takes away our sins by the Spirit writing the Word upon our hearts to be able to do them and not just look at them. Meaning when we abide in The Word, who is Christ and the Word abides in us we are growing to spiritual maturity as children of God.
The law written in "THE STONE/CHRIST" which the builders rejected before he became flesh, in itself changes no one. Proven by the fact that God gave them the law, who was Christ The Rock as I showed you earlier, they ate and drank from, But without the Spirit to help them, which we have in Christ who is our new covenant Word, we can never overcome our flesh and we will always be captive to the law due to sin in our lives.

But the Word, he can set us free by taking away our sinful ways by delivering us from the bondage of sin bowing to the devils temptations and never entering into God's Rest. But instead still living lives of misery going up the mountains and down in the valleys never making our paths smooth and never finding the keys to the kingdom
The added laws due to transgression the 10 were taken away when God forsook His Word {in the beginning was THE WORD}on the cross and left the added ordinances nailed, but raised Jesus as he was before with the Father in his original state which is the Word of God being the 10 commandments that have been condensed to 2 in Christ resurrected, which if done correctly fulfill all 10 and then with us having the Spirit to help us we are growing in the Word in Christ to keep us from needing the law to be exalted over us, for we will no longer sin.And where there is no sinful behavior, there is no need for the law. Where there is no law, there is no sin, because only sinners need laws hanging over them.. do you see
For example:
If someone comes into a home to visit, at first there are no rules and you are free to feel at ease. But if we begin to jump on the furniture, tear up and be disrespectful for lack of discipline, then that is when the laws begin to accumulate and you now have to be told not to jump on the furniture and you have now put yourself under bondage to a law and the more you break that law, more laws will be added, along with punishment to the law of freedom that you had at first.
If we were not under any laws Paul would not have said this:
Gal 5:18-21
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
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When the Hebrews came out of Egypt they did not know how to behave according to God's standards so the Law had to be given them to TELL them how to act.
But they couldn't because they had no one to show them how. We have a better covenant for we have the helper the Holy Spirit to teach us how to act so as to not allow the laws to accumulate over us again by knowing how to do right to begin with. God's Spirit will not lead us to sin against God or man. We are still learning, but we must keep growing till we reach maturity
Rom 3:25
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
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We had to be considered righteous by the blood of Jesus in order to receive God's Spirit, but that is just the beginning of our rebirth, we must learn how to walk in Christ and to do that, we all are given a clean slate of our past sins when we first come to Christ so that no man can boast as to why they were accepted as if their sin was less that another's. But we are led into our wilderness walk by the Spirit just as Jesus did to be tempted and tested by the devil to try us as gold and silver as we walk out our salvation.
Matt 4:1
4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
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The rest we must enter into to rest in God is to overcome our flesh man who can be tempted to sin against God that keeps us in our wilderness going round and round the mountain and never making it to our promise land that God has for us as His children.
And remember faith without Works IS DEAD FAITH meaning we must step out of God's promises by faith without seeing anything but because His Word promises it. Always we shall be His children when we walk in faith and we must look to Him for our provisions, protection and health which comes by abiding in Christ and the Word abiding in us.
 

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2 afaithfulone4u, greeting in the Lord Jesus.

thanks, and very insightful. I loved that example you used about being bay bay kids. (smile).

again, another a+ 4u

yes, that's true. "our rest comes when Jesus takes away our sins by the Spirit writing the Word upon our hearts". that's why preaching of the gospel is so important, one must believe that our sins are paid in full, and there is no effort on our part. the lord Jesus have already taken away our sin, but do one believe it. scripture, John 1:29 "The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world". so our rest is in the Lord Jesus, for he has already taken away our sin, but we must believe. how?, by the knowledge of God's word, (the truth/the Gospel). for the scripture is true, Romans 10:12 "For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God".
it is by the foolishness of preaching that save some. 1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God". and 1 Corinthians 1:21 "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men".
the Prophet and King, David, said it best, Romans 4:6 "Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin". amen, that works which David is talking about is the (Works of the LAW). which work a wrath from God, why is this?, answer, Romans 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one". why do none do good?, because we're all dead men to God, spiritually. Romans 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification".
as long as we're in these flesh bodies we will sin. that's why we must put on the new man, and we need help untill then, supernatural help, hence the promise. which is to come. as long as we're in the flesh bodies we will sin. so Romans 3:20 "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin". not in his (God) sight, that's why the high priest on earth is always standing, because no amount of sacrifice will take away our sin. for the Law reminded us of our sin, each year as the high priest entered the holies of holies a remenbrance of sin is noted..
scripture Romans 4:15 "Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression". just as the apostle Paul stated, "WHY SERVER THE LAW". I keep asking people who say we must obey the LAW. why?. some say the moral law, (the 10) was not done away with only the civil part, (the ceremonial), the sacrifices, and ect.. which tell you how to get right with the Moral (the 10). if the civil was done away, (no more sacrifices) a question, how are you going to get right with the 10 when the way to cleanses yourself is done away with?. can't do it. but in Christ Jesus they are rendered noneffective, why do I say this?. in Christ Jesus we're cleansed from sin by his blood, once and for all times, that's why he sits in heaven. and if we sin we have an advocate, (the new civil or ceremonial Law), called faith, and in faith we're cleanses from all unrighteousness, supportive scripture, 1 John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness". boy O boy what a covenant we have. a covenant based on better promises. this is a covenant right, TO BE FORGIVEN. his blood is given for the new covenant, ONCE. that's why we take the Lord's supper, to show his death for our sins. the Law I live by is the Law of FAITH. which is found only in Christ Jesus. for he has already paid the price. and I remember that I'm free or delivered/saved by showing his death, the price he paid for me. this is done in taking the Lord's supper. for he said do this in remembrance of me. not to remember your sins. for he said in Jer. 31:31- I will not REMEMBER your SINS. just as to remember the sabbath, which is in Christ Jesus. I must believe that. and by being in him I must, as you say grow in him. Grow in FAITH. that's why we have the 5 fold ministries, Ephesians 4:11 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ".

sorry about that "a", got off topic a little. but maybe, good read for someone, if it help them. that's why we're here to HELP. share with one another. not to see if someone is right or wrong. but to enlighten, to be an helper to one another.

Love and Peace
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Hi 101G,
It is true that we must receive Jesus to be saved for without receiving the Word we can not have the Spirit. Yet we do have to be careful for some have misunderstood that saved to live again and to inherit the kingdom of God are two different things.
1 Cor 9:24-27
24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
KJV
The kingdom of God is the government of God who will inherit the Bride heavenly Jerusalem and the elect/chosen will be kings and priests being the high calling of God that Paul talked about... where as those who are saved but not found worthy will live according to their rewards they stored up for themselves in their heaven and will be of those who inherit the rest of the earth outside of the Bride which is the City heavenly Jerusalem. They do not come back to life until the GWTJ when the books are opened which is the second resurrection, unless, they make it through the GT
They will be the ones who were not ready at his coming for his holy body and will say Lord Lord but he will not know them, for the Word was not familiar to them so he did not recognize them as part of him. We are in a grace period so that we can overcome our flesh man by the Word and the Spirit operating in us to transform us into the image of Christ as a perfect man.
1 Cor 3:11-15
11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ{THE WORD}.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
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Rev 3:5-6
5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
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Rev 20:12-21:1
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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And that is so very true, we are only interested in truth and we feed off each other as we are the body of Christ and he is the Word whom became flesh the Bread of LIFE to live by.
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I read your reply,
"Yet we do have to be careful for some have misunderstood that saved to live again and to inherit the kingdom of God are two different things".
now that is interesting. please explain a little more in more detail. thanks in advance.

Love and Peace
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101G said:
"Yet we do have to be careful for some have misunderstood that saved to live again and to inherit the kingdom of God are two different things".
now that is interesting. please explain a little more in more detail. thanks in advance.
Don't listen to her 101G. She doesn't know what she's talking about.

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lets encourage one another. for the scriptures states, 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works".

it's always refreshing to hear another point of view.
 

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101G said:
lets encourage one another. for the scriptures states, 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works".

it's always refreshing to hear another point of view.
I don't encourage false teachers. If you think it's refreshing to hear fairy tales, march ahead.
 

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we all are learning. as the apostle Paul states, Philippians 3:12 "Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. 13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus 15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. 16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing".
for one, speaking for myself, I don't know everything. I'm still learning. I have not yet attained, but I press toward the mark. I don't encourage false teachers either, but I do care for my brothers and sisters. even God himself said, "come lets REASON together". everyone in the body of Christ is important. turn not one away. if I can't be helpful, I'll say nothing.
 

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I don't know everything either. But if I do know something, and see a brother walking towards a ditch, isn't it love to warn him?
 

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if I walk in LOVE is that not the RULE. for if I fall in the Ditch, you who is perfect, will not you rescue me out of the ditch?


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I encourage you, using your scriptures you gave. run you race. we're not in a race to win anything, for the race is already won. we only need to finish our course. for our crown are already laid up for us. just finish the race. for the crowns is a one size fit all, there is no large, medium, or small crowns. let no one discourage you. let the Love of God rule in your heart. be strong int the lord and in the power of HIS MIGHT. seek not your own wefare, but other. I encourage you to fight the good fight of FAITH. and stay your course. for the Lord Jesus said I will never leave you nor forsake you. stay your course.

Love and Peace
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