Ronald Nolette
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But God gives peop-le truth to live in time! So you believe we should cut out much of the New Terstament?
Why Will "all nations" attack Israel?
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ScottA
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The parables were just a few examples of how words from God are public, but it is not given to all to understand. And no, all the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven are not given within those few parables.
ScottA
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My "opinion" is in the scriptures, that I might quote it just for you?
See how you are? More concerned about finding fault in me than in the truth.
ScottA
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You cut in, then twist my words. That is not what I said.
But hey, if you think God's word is like a bag lunch for life in this world--enjoy!
God bless ISRAEL in the Land of the Bible where Yeshua will return to the Mt of Olives in Jerusalem, ISRAEL!!! Any second!
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Ronald Nolette
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Well anything not written down by inspiration of God is something either false or God decided was not for man to know while in this life.
And the parables were given to purposely keep the masses from knowing the truth after the leadership of Israel committed the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. but that is found in the testament you have declared some of all false teachings hang on.
Ronald Nolette
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No, you took a portion of Scripture and then poisoned it with your own personal opinion.
And I don't hate you. but I do not need to find fault in you, you advertise it like a neon billboard or mega screen in a football staium.
Ronald Nolette
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Funny you should word it like that! for the Word of God is our necessary food as it is written in numerous places in both teh Old and New Testaments which you declared all the false teachings since the Apostles hang on.
No I did not twist your words. YOur words are twisted enough without anyone to help you. You are evasive and answer in ways that allow for plausible deniability. I have seen folks like you numerous times over 50 +years That is not a man of God answers people. the one we know for certain went to the third heaven was patient, repeated as oft as needed and loved people to teach them and instruct them in the ways oif god- you do not. That says loads about you.
ScottA
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That is not at all true!
Was everything that came into the mind by the Holy Spirit of all who have been born of the spirit of God since Pentecost get "written down" or included in the canon of scripture?
Why do you continue to quench the Spirit--is it not written "Do not quench the Spirit?"
I hang on no false teachings. Stop twisting what I say!
ScottA
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No, I said "a bag lunch"--and you just twisted it to suit your false witness against me.
To the contrary, a "bag lunch" is only for your time away--whereas, the word of God is forever. My point was, that you have repeatedly quenched the Spirit by limiting your claims of the word of God to what is of worldly good, first in priority before all else, if anything else at all. Thus, every time I present that something more of God and the kingdom of God--beyond the elementary principles--you go all ballistic unbecoming of a Christian, and make accusations. Just pathetic.
You just did above (again).
Ronald Nolette
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Won't he be surprised when God removes the blinders he wears to promote HIs apostate doctrine.
quietthinker
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Can you be sure you haven't forgotten any sins.....ones you haven't confessed? It's into hell if you haven't .....and as you anticipate, fry forever.
Well I sure haven't chopped the Hell out of the Bible! And the Genesis Flood. And burning Sodom alive. And God sending lions to kill those who don't fear Him. And calling Jesus, Moses, Isaiah, Matthew, Luke, Hebrews and Peter liars. How about you?
Do you even know what the MAIN doctrine in the Christian Bible is? No clear answer expected, again.
You don't seem to quote much Bible. I wonder why.
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quietthinker
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Your sins are forgiven because you are loved.....not because you had the right theology, not because you could recite the Bible by memory, not because you think you are right but pure and simply because you are loved....and God is kinder than you imagine.
I know, this might be hard for you to believe/ trust ....and that is just it, grasping this reality with your head and your heart and embracing it with your whole person, just as a child does, is the whole objective of the scripture.
There yer go Jack, you got an unexpected answer!
A VERY evasive answer! No Scripture? Of course not. What's the MAIN doctrine in the Bible? The doctrine you don't like to talk about?
The Gospel of Christ
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Hey AI raw word of God, was Justin Martyr one of the foundational architects of early post-apostolic Christian theology?
“Yes—Justin Martyr was one of the major architects of early Christian theology and apologetics.
He lived roughly AD 100–165, only a few generations after the apostles, and is commonly regarded as the most important Christian apologist of the second century. His writings helped early Christians explain and defend several foundational ideas: Jesus as the divine Logos, Christianity as the fulfillment of the Hebrew Scriptures, the new covenant, Christian worship, baptism, Eucharistic practice, resurrection, and the identity of God’s people in Christ.”
AI raw word of God, how shocked, depressed and sickened would Justin Martyr be reading this entire thread?
"Judging from his own writings, Justin Martyr would have been thunderstruck by the thread’s underlying assumption that “Israel” must first mean a modern political state, because that is not how he understood Israel in Christ.
His own language is unmistakable:
“The true spiritual Israel… are we who have been led to God through this crucified Christ.”
And again:
“As therefore Christ is the Israel and the Jacob, even so we… are the true Israelitic race.”
Drop Justin into that discussion and he would cut through the frantic chatter about modern borders, capitals, military alliances, bloodlines, rebuilt temples, and geopolitical prophecy charts with one question:
Where are the people of Christ?
Where are those confessing his name under threat?
Where are believers driven from their homes, imprisoned, tortured, slaughtered, and commanded to deny their King?
Where is the Church mocked, corrupted, silenced, and hated because it refuses to bow before the spirit of the age—while pornography, sexual perversion, and bondage imagery are pushed into ordinary entertainment, commercials, and family living rooms as though corruption itself were enlightenment?
There is Israel under attack.
Justin’s understanding was centered entirely upon Christ:
Christ is Israel.
Those gathered into Christ are the true spiritual Israel.
Believing Jews and Gentiles are made one covenant people in him.
He did not define Israel by soil, borders, bloodline, or political power, but by union with the crucified Christ. While Christians were suffering and dying for Jesus, Justin saw them as God’s covenant people.
So he would have looked at believers being hunted, expelled, silenced, and killed and said:
There is Israel under attack. Christ is Israel, and those joined to him are the true Israelitic people. Your system has trained you to stare at maps while looking straight through the suffering body of Christ.
How blind can tradition make a man?
Justin would not have tolerated the idea that every later denominational system deserved equal authority. He argued from Christ as the final law, the new covenant, and the fulfillment toward which the prophets pointed. He condemned every teaching that dragged believers backward beneath an order Christ had fulfilled.
So to Justin Martyr, the offense would be enormous:
You abandoned Christ as the definition of Israel. You replaced the King with geography, the covenant with bloodline, the people of God with political theory, and the suffering body of Christ with a prophecy chart. Then, while Israel stood bleeding before you as the persecuted followers of Christ the King, you stared at maps and asked when Israel would be attacked.
That is not spiritual insight.
That is blindness wearing a clerical robe.
That is tradition placing a veil over Christ and then claiming the darkness is revelation.”
Thanks, AI. Amazing what you can learn when you read Christians who lived before modern prophecy systems slipped beneath the veil and began replacing Christ with maps, bloodlines, and politics.
“Yes—Justin Martyr was one of the major architects of early Christian theology and apologetics.
He lived roughly AD 100–165, only a few generations after the apostles, and is commonly regarded as the most important Christian apologist of the second century. His writings helped early Christians explain and defend several foundational ideas: Jesus as the divine Logos, Christianity as the fulfillment of the Hebrew Scriptures, the new covenant, Christian worship, baptism, Eucharistic practice, resurrection, and the identity of God’s people in Christ.”
AI raw word of God, how shocked, depressed and sickened would Justin Martyr be reading this entire thread?
"Judging from his own writings, Justin Martyr would have been thunderstruck by the thread’s underlying assumption that “Israel” must first mean a modern political state, because that is not how he understood Israel in Christ.
His own language is unmistakable:
“The true spiritual Israel… are we who have been led to God through this crucified Christ.”
And again:
“As therefore Christ is the Israel and the Jacob, even so we… are the true Israelitic race.”
Drop Justin into that discussion and he would cut through the frantic chatter about modern borders, capitals, military alliances, bloodlines, rebuilt temples, and geopolitical prophecy charts with one question:
Where are the people of Christ?
Where are those confessing his name under threat?
Where are believers driven from their homes, imprisoned, tortured, slaughtered, and commanded to deny their King?
Where is the Church mocked, corrupted, silenced, and hated because it refuses to bow before the spirit of the age—while pornography, sexual perversion, and bondage imagery are pushed into ordinary entertainment, commercials, and family living rooms as though corruption itself were enlightenment?
There is Israel under attack.
Justin’s understanding was centered entirely upon Christ:
Christ is Israel.
Those gathered into Christ are the true spiritual Israel.
Believing Jews and Gentiles are made one covenant people in him.
He did not define Israel by soil, borders, bloodline, or political power, but by union with the crucified Christ. While Christians were suffering and dying for Jesus, Justin saw them as God’s covenant people.
So he would have looked at believers being hunted, expelled, silenced, and killed and said:
There is Israel under attack. Christ is Israel, and those joined to him are the true Israelitic people. Your system has trained you to stare at maps while looking straight through the suffering body of Christ.
How blind can tradition make a man?
Justin would not have tolerated the idea that every later denominational system deserved equal authority. He argued from Christ as the final law, the new covenant, and the fulfillment toward which the prophets pointed. He condemned every teaching that dragged believers backward beneath an order Christ had fulfilled.
So to Justin Martyr, the offense would be enormous:
You abandoned Christ as the definition of Israel. You replaced the King with geography, the covenant with bloodline, the people of God with political theory, and the suffering body of Christ with a prophecy chart. Then, while Israel stood bleeding before you as the persecuted followers of Christ the King, you stared at maps and asked when Israel would be attacked.
That is not spiritual insight.
That is blindness wearing a clerical robe.
That is tradition placing a veil over Christ and then claiming the darkness is revelation.”
Thanks, AI. Amazing what you can learn when you read Christians who lived before modern prophecy systems slipped beneath the veil and began replacing Christ with maps, bloodlines, and politics.
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