World Communism Is Not Dead

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Here's a list of Communist goals that 1950's FBI agent Cleon Skousen listed in his 1958 book The Naked Communist. The list of goals was entered into the U.S. Congressional Record by Florida Congressman A.S. Herlong Jr. in 1963.

The question is, do they reveal the working of Communism still today, showing that the cold war did not really end?


1958 CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

Who realized that the United States accepting coexistence with Communism was a Communist goal? Has the U.S. accepted peaceful coexistence with Communist states like Russia, Cuba, and Red China today? What's the U.S.'s free trade agreement with Communist China about today?

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

This is about Communist countries like Russia, Cuba, and Red China uping the threat of nuclear war on the bet that U.S. leaders will always cave-in to appeasement, a strategy of bullying in order to attain advantage, political, economic, foreign aid, etc. It's worked pretty good, except with U.S. Presidents like Ronal Regean that were willing to make a stand.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament (by) the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

That's like a bully in the neighborhood telling victims it's more honorable and good for his victims to not put up a fight. Then the bully has his way, completely. Self-defense is just as much a God-given right as a nation's defense. That's why our Lord Jesus told His disciples in Luke 22 to go buy a sword if they didn't have one the last time He sent them on the road to preach The Gospel. START treaty talks for nuclear disarmament have been going on between the U.S. and Russia this past week. Russia has declared they don't plan to give up any missles, but to increase their number of missles, while they petition the U.S. to get rid of their's.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

Isn't that interesting? This was a 1958 Communist developed goal folks, not a goal devised in our present decade. During the Clinton era, computer technology was traded to Red China which essentially increased their missle accuracy. During the Vietnam conflict, strategic materials were sold to Soviet bloc countries. In our present decade, Communist Cuba has been desiring a free trade policy with the U.S., and that's now in the works. When South Vietnam fell to Communism in 1975, the West began trading with them also not many years thereafter. Makes one wonder just who is in control of our U.S. Trade Department, doesn't it? Did you really know what GATT and NAFTA was about?

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

Communist Socialism does not work economically. That's why the Communist nations are forced to develope that kind of foreign aid strategy with the economically independent West. If strategic goal number 1 is working, then all the Communist have to do is create some crisis that could lead to nuclear war, and the West will say, "What do you want to stop this crisis?" Hey, it worked with the Cuban missle crisis, the U.S. removed its missles out of Turkey it had there. There's no telling what else we gave them behind the scenes.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

Means sending U.S. foreign aid to nations that are Communist controlled. If the West would stop sending economic aid to Communist nations, they wouldn't have extra moneis to build their military arsenal against the West, now would they? Bankers don't care, money is their sovereign nation. They'll be anybody's dog that want's to hunt with them.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

For many decades, the U.S. did not recognize Red China. President Richard Nixon's visits to China kicked off the later recognition, and Jimmy Carter thrived on it later. The more Communist nation's represented at the U.N. increases Communism's power at the U.N. against the free nations.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

East and West Germany did become separate states kept divided by the Berlin Wall. Golitsyn in his 1984 work New Lies For Old predicted Communist Russia would allow the Berlin Wall to come down, if their disinformation strategy against the West that Communism was failing had duped the West. The Berlin Wall came down in the 1990's.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

But the Russians kept developing, and that was the reason for their wanting to prolong the talks.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

This goes back to strategies like number 7. More Communist nations allowed representation at the U.N. means increasing Communist power at the U.N. against the West.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

How many thought I was joking about world Communism's plans for "a one-world government", via international organizations like the U.N.? What's the U.N. headquarters doing in New York city anyway? We have western leaders both in the U.S. and in western Europe that have push that plan for a one world government. Whether they know it or not, they are siding with world Communist strategy in support of it. Remember, this Communist strategic goal the FBI agent Skousen listed in his book was in 1958.

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

The U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities in the 1950's got close to having the Communist Party in the U.S. banned. Senator Joseph McCarthy's naming of people in influential positions, some with high U.S. security clearances and their associations affiliated with Communists and/or the Communist party has been exhonorated, since the Venona project (declassification of KGB files that revealed Soviet communications and aid to those subversive Communist affiliations in the U.S. which McCarthy named, some of them later discovered to be Soviet spies.)

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

All public servants in the U.S., congressmen, senators, the president, police, fireman, councilmen, aldermen, mayors, and all military servicemen are required to take the oath to uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution of The United States of America. Communist infiltrators into U.S. government and positions required to take that oath of course don't like that, because it could increase danger of penalty upon them if they are discovered as Communist subversives.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

Who was the idiot that gave them access in the first place, I'd like to know. What better way to steal secrets and inventions where U.S. leaders haven't recognized their importance yet? Allowing Russia access to that is like opening the ground floor of new techology to them.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

When I grew up in the '60's, the term Left wing meant philosophical support and loose political allegiance with Communist Socialist states like Russia, Cuba, North Vietnam and Red China (remember what leftist Jane Fonda did, and leftist fomented riots of U.S. college campuses). Sad to say, but the Democratic Party in America supports more policies allied with Communist strategy than any other party, but the Republican Party is not far behind today, showing Communism's attack and infilatration within both U.S. parties (which has spurned the Tea Party movement). And this was a 1958 Communist goal!!

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

Can anyone say ACLU? I forget the ACLU's original name back in the late 1940's, but the FBI documented known Communists that worked among the group then. Should be no surprise with their strong anti-Christian bias today. The ACLU just issued a threat to public education heads in the state of Tennessee a couple weeks ago about allowing Christmas celebration in the schools. The ACLU relies heavily on the myth of 'separation of church and state', which is not written in the U.S. Constitution. Instead, the First Amendment does not allow government to make any law establishing religion, nor can it to prohibit the free expression of religion. The kids in the schools can celebrate Christmas there if they want per the law.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda.

Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
We were just talking about ACLU's attempted influence of schools weren' we? One might want to look at some of the policies of unions like the NEA teacher's union, which has some very far Left policies. See why Communists want Americans to think it's dead? And this was a 1958 strategy!

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

Who really knew just where the attack upon our public schools was coming from all along? Amazing that Communists would go to that level isn't it? No it's not amazing, for Marxist philosophy declared early on how getting ahold of young minds is an important cog in their works towards one-world Communist Socialism. Even with some here on this Forum one can see how they've been brainwashed by Communist's lies into thinking it can be a good thing if properly done.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

This was especially done during the Vietnam war era. It's still in operation today, especially in U.S. universities. Get hold of the mind, and their fanny will follow.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

What true American has not suspected this one? It's specific though. Book-reviews TELL the American public what's good to buy for reading. Might want to take a strong look at propaganda like the New York Times Bestseller lists. Last couple of times I checked it out, the number of fiction books involving murder and horror stories way outnumbered useful works beneficial to a moral society. Editorial writing is about a magazine or newspaper's opinion, not necessarily about reality. The aim is to INFLUENCE PUBLIC OPINION. Sadly, a lot of people simply do not think for theirself. They go out and form opinions only based on the opinion's of others. The public opinion Communist subversives well know that, and use it against Americans. Their aim to get ahold of policy-making positions in society should be obvious.


21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

Once again, what true American doesn't realize this strategy by Communists? This was 1958 remember? What about today? How many movies today suggest that Communism is NOT dead today? If you find a big hollywood movie that does suggest that, let me know.


22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

Did you know that's about the idea of art? Did anyone ever think how Communists would try to use modern Abstract art to replace portraits and sculptures of American heroes that promote American values of honor and family? Shouldn't be difficult to figure out why some art critics would favor a shapeless, meaningless form of art over one that promotes moral values. They'd allow phallus art right on the front lawns of kindergaten schools if the American public would allow it. "But this is an important work of art, it's simply in the Abstract style," they'd probably say.



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23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

There it is; the avant-gard art critics. Render some nudes and pour buckets of different colors of paint over it and call it art, then promite it as a high-valued investment. What a joke. (I was originally an art major in college by the way, so I’m not ignorant of the subject.)

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

There’s the origins of pushing pornography in the West. Strange that Adam Weishaupt’s Bavarian Illuminati had that goal in the 1700’s too. Communist Socialism is not just about an attack of missles and tanks. It’s especially an attack upon society’s moral values and nature itself, all for the purpose to overthrow their target. The Bavarian Illuminati had the same strategies as Skousen listed here in his 1958 work (See John Robison’s work Proofs Of A Conspiracy written in 1798 about the Illuminati’s goals).

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

Now radio broadcasters are allowed cuss on the airwaves, pushing the lie to our young children that’s it’s OK. Just think, everytime you support those things above, it’s actual goal is for the purpose of destroying the morality of our society, throwing people into rebellion against God.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

A 1958 Communist strategy folks!


27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

What have I been saying about the philosophy of Socialism brethren? Bet you didn’t figure what the purpose of Socialism in the Churches today was about. 1958 Communist strategy for the Churches, who would have thunk it! Revealed Christian religion only comes directly from God in His Word The Bible, not from Socialist published tracts written for the preachers to give their sermons from. Even the Communists well know that “revealed religion” from The Bible itself is a block to their strategy, even if some brethren on the Socialist boat don’t know that!

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

Next time you hear leftist groups like the ACLU protest against school prayer, or any religious expression in public schools, remember this 1958 Communist goal.

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

Next time you hear Leftists say that also, now you know where such false ideas originated from, i.e., 1958 Communist strategy for takeover of the West.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

Once again, next time you hear someone stress how the U.S. founding fathers were decrepid immoral men, you should realize that’s nothing but an attempt to defame the writings of the founding documents they produced, like the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, etc. Only One Perfect Man ever came in the flesh, our Lord Jesus Christ. The U.S. founding fathers weren’t perfect and had faults as all men, except our Lord Jesus.

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the grounds that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

Is it no wonder so many Americans don’t know much of our nation’s history, especially its Christian foundations? Christianity WAS the main American Culture in the founding days of the United States, and for many, many years thereafter. Russia prior to its Communist takeover, was a Christian State also! The royal families of Russia WERE Christians!!! That’s why the Communists murdered Czar Nicholas II and Alexandria at the 1917 Communist takeover of Russia. Nicholas II and Alexandria were kin to the royal families of Europe, even to Queen Victoria of England. Our Heavenly Father isn’t going to forget that either, when the time will come when He will destroy Communism and those behind it.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture -- education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

Communism IS Socialism. Some poor deceived souls try to fool us in trying to separate the two ideas from each other, when they both go hand-in-hand, and cannot be separated. Communism won’t work without Socialism, and visa versa. They’re both the same idealism. Why Communist would want support for mental health clinics will become obvious with a later 1958 stragety goal further below.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

That strategy by Communism should be well obvious. But is it still in operation today? Think about it, for it is.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

I don’t know exactly when that Committee officialy ended, but it is no more today. And it really has not been replaced with anything better. The Communists in the media and hidden within the U.S. state department saw to its ending not long after the American senator and hero Joseph McCarthy was demonized by them in the 1950’s. McCarthy has since been exonerated by facts in the declassified Venona Project KGB files.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

Communists have done some discrediting of the FBI, but they’ve yet to dismantle it today. They defamed Hoover’s era greatly.


36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

I’m not totally against the idea of trade unionws. But I am totally against the use of unions for subversive means. Communist infiltration should never be allowed within any American union, because what better way to subvert industry and the American economy? Note this says, “gain control of MORE unions”. Skousen was admitting in 1958 that Communism already had control of ‘some’ unions in America. Something to think about.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

Control of BIG business, not Ma and Pa Kettle. In a Communist controlled state, all big business is controled by the state apparatus.


38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand (or treat).

There’s the inroad to psycho drugs being almost freely prescribed to many Americans today. Even some drugs a doctor prescribes to help stop smoking can cause psychosomatic tendencies; even suicidal tendencies AS WARNED ON THE PACKAGE! The Bible calls that working sorcery. That’s the word pharmakatos in the Greek of Rev.9:21 and 18:23. Sorcery is the usage of drugs to creat altered mind states. Next time a doctor prescribes psycho drugs for your children think about that. (I’m not speaking of all cases though, use common sense and discretion).


39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

A 1958 Communist strategy goal. That false working has really taken off in the West today.


40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

The reason Communism uses that is because it’s simply another way to break down society and create rebellion to make their takeover easier. Because of how Communist strategy violates so many forms of human nature in God’s creation, I don’t see how any Communist is going to make it into Christ’s future reign on earth when He returns. Good thing that only Christ has that Power to judge to condemnation, we don’t.


41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

During the Bush administration, the suggestion then came out to start Federal kindergatens for ages up to 3 (?) years old, and then they’d revert to the public education system. Home schooling is a counter to all that, and is still a U.S. citizen right, but not in some European countries that have listened to the Communists.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use united force to solve economic, political or social problems.

Communist taught rebellion, pure and simple. “What are you rebelling against?” says the law-abiding citizen. “What da ya got?”, says the rebel who is just so cool! NOT!!!


43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

In other words, get control of the poorer nations that are just beginning to learn how to fend for themselves as free independent democratic states that ask from help from the Christian West. South Vietnam was in that situation, and asked help from the West when Communists were really pressing to take all of Vietnam. Look at a poorer nation today that is on the verge of self-independence, and you’ll eventually see Communist infiltrations and influence to try to take it over.


44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

Does anyone not know how this happened under Bill Clinton’s watch during his last term as president? I remember how Congress was set towards the end of December to finalize whether to do it or not. Clinton had the time moved up quickly in December with a small group and got it passed before that could happen. Clinton even made a slip-up in a news review to show his support of giving our Panama Canal to Communist control! He said he thought Red China would do an excellent job running the canal. It was later discovered the company brought in to run it was a front company of Communist Red China. They got it now.


45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

I haven’t researched this Connally reservation. Maybe some could help with that. But the idea of a World Court to do away with our protections under the U.S. Constitution, that’s been a major work of only the past few decades, and is a major working today.
 

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I thought Jimmy Carter gave up the Panama Canal, not Clinton.

I know it is a reflex to blame Clinton for everything, but.....
 

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And, with all the "green" programs and worry about global warming,,,,,,, (Let's not forget all the terror and programs implemented when they found the holes in the Ozon Layer!) Oh, and BTW,,, those holes are now believed to be normal and they're supposed to be there.


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And, with all the "green" programs and worry about global warming,,,,,,, (Let's not forget all the terror and programs implemented when they found the holes in the Ozon Layer!) Oh, and BTW,,, those holes are now believed to be normal and they're supposed to be there.


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I'm a communist by myself, and what you state here is B*lls'*t! The green party don't like us. Neither in Germany nor in the United States. Neither in Russia nor in France or Great Britain. They are TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS of people.
 

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Theoretically Communism as a Social Program and Economic Program has several up sides but lets also face a fact that Communism and I do me "Communism" not the off shoots that we have today will never work simply because human nature will not allow it to work. The greed of man is too strong and the idea that we must "share all things" is not something people are going to do willing. As for the Green is the New Red thing...thats a bit out there...I mean God made the world and everything in it, wouldn't it be a more positive statement to his work if we worked to preserve the planet and its beauty that the Lord has given us then to destroy it in the name of Corporate gain and money?

I could be wrong...but that has always been my view on it.
 

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Don't confuse the theories of Communism with simple root words like commune and community. Theoretical principles of Communism come from Karl Marx's and Lennin's theories, which are actually anti-God and anti-community, and utter abject materialism.

 

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Don't confuse the theories of Communism with simple root words like commune and community. Theoretical principles of Communism come from Karl Marx's and Lennin's theories, which are actually anti-God and anti-community, and utter abject materialism.


Well said. The first post in the thread is also quite accurate.

The argument that any part of this is nonsense is either an attempt to mask communist goals (allowing their work to continue) or to confuse the interpretations of what is discovered.

The American Communist Party (or Communist Party USA as they call themselves) is working like termites behind the wall to weaken the structure of American culture, government and dare I say even religion.

It is dangerous and not the subject of the lunatic fringe.
 

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Well said. The first post in the thread is also quite accurate.

The argument that any part of this is nonsense is either an attempt to mask communist goals (allowing their work to continue) or to confuse the interpretations of what is discovered.

The American Communist Party (or Communist Party USA as they call themselves) is working like termites behind the wall to weaken the structure of American culture, government and dare I say even religion.

It is dangerous and not the subject of the lunatic fringe.

I begin to worry about what is being taught in America about Communism. Communism is a theory established by the believe in communal harmony. Yes, Marx was a Materialist as was many others at that time in history. But if you really look at one of the core teachings of Communism it is actually a verse redone from the bible. I will put a few verses down that show the more "economic and social" aspects of Communism separated from the more "Materialist" parts.

One of Jesus' most famous remarks regarding the wealthy can be found in Matthew 19:16-24 (the same event is also described in Mark 10:17-25 and Luke 18:18-25, and the metaphor of a camel going through the eye of a needle is common to both Matthew and Luke).
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why do you ask me about what is good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

In the Gospel of Luke (1:49-53), Mary delivered the following description of the works of God:
49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. 50 And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation. 51 He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. 52 He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree. 53 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.
 

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The use of scripture to justify Communist ideology is not only inaccurate and unjust, it is very nearly criminal.

Economically, the communist economic system doesn't work. The evidence of that may be seen in the massive collapse of the Soviet Union in the 1980's. When that system fell, it took nearly every other communist government with it. Twenty plus years later, those countries have rebuilt their economies under a different method.

Socially, the system doesn't work either as Britain and much of Europe is discovering today. The people of the United States, possibly the most ill educated generation in the history of the republic, haven't observed the lesson which millions have suffered to learn.

Religiously, the Communist system has been historically suppressive of the practice and true context of Christianity and Judaism. The primary example of this is in posts entered here which proclaim loudly that the violations of human rights in the name of Communist regimes hasn't happened or that it wasn't a true Communist state that did it. Tell that to the millions that have suffered and died in Communsit gulags.

There is the truth and there are those who twist the truth to satisfy a lie and the agenda of murder, thievery and seditious activities aimed at the destruction of the American republic.
 

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I begin to worry about what is being taught in America about Communism. Communism is a theory established by the believe in communal harmony. Yes, Marx was a Materialist as was many others at that time in history. But if you really look at one of the core teachings of Communism it is actually a verse redone from the bible. I will put a few verses down that show the more "economic and social" aspects of Communism separated from the more "Materialist" parts.


I began to worry when it became obvious that leaders in our U.S. gov. had no intentions of winning in Vietnam against the Communist north. Kissenger even proclaimed that it was not desirable to win per U.S. foreign policy.

And you can't just try to separate Karl Marx and Lennin's 'materialism' from the theories of Communism. Like I said before, Communism is one theory, a materialistic theory, but the idea of commune or community is another. The idea of a commune or community God's Way is about certain inalienable rights of all peoples which Communist theory totally ignores. So it's a major sign of ignorance to even start to compare Communist theory with the idea of community per The Bible.

And I say, for those who love Communism so much, why not go over to those Communist countries to live and see if you can make it a better place. If you cared so much about people then you wouldn't want to come to the Christian West to try and tear its governments down.

 

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Our whole culture is based on materialism - it is the American dream

Seems funny to criticism Marx for it - he theory is just not as effective as ours.
 

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Our whole culture is based on materialism - it is the American dream

Seems funny to criticism Marx for it - he theory is just not as effective as ours.

The American dream was never materialism.

The dream was to own one's own home and the property upon which it stood.
The dream was to build and live a life free from the insinuations of government.
The dream was to work and hope for a better future for ourselves and our children.
The dream was to harness raw nature for the benefit of ourselves and the world.
The dream was to find meaning in work, religion and each other.

The realization of the dream resulted in prosperity, the fruit of hard labor.

Materialism is a cancer created by those who feed upon the fruit those dreamers created.

Socialists are the termites which quietly eat away at the community built by the dreamers.
Communists seek to jail and murder the dreamers altogether.

Where there is no vision, the people perish:
Pro 29:18
 

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Ownby (1999) identifies four dreams American dreams that the new consumer culture addressed. The first was the "Dream of Abundance," offering a cornucopia of material goods to all Americans, making them proud to be the richest society on earth. The second was the "Dream of a Democracy of Goods," whereby everyone had access to the same products regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, or class, thereby challenging the aristocratic norms of the rest of the world whereby only the rich or well-connected access to luxury. The "Dream of Freedom of Choice," with its ever expanding variety of good allowed people to fashion their own particular life style. Finally, the "Dream of Novelty," in which ever-changing fashions, new models, and unexpected new products broadened the consumer experience in terms of purchasing skills and awareness of the market, and challenged the conservatism of traditional society and culture, and even politics. Ownby acknowledges that the dreams of the new consumer culture radiated out from the major cities, but notes that they quickly penetrated the most rural and most isolated areas, such as rural Mississippi. With the arrival of the model T after 1910, consumers in rural America were no longer locked into local general stores with their limited merchandise and high prices, and to comparison shop and in towns and cities. Ownby demonstrates that poor black Mississippians shared in the new consumer culture, both inside Mississippi, and it motivated the more ambitious to move to Memphis or Chicago.[sup][17][/sup][sup][18][/sup].
 

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Ownby (1999) identifies four dreams American dreams that the new consumer culture addressed. The first was the "Dream of Abundance," offering a cornucopia of material goods to all Americans, making them proud to be the richest society on earth. The second was the "Dream of a Democracy of Goods," whereby everyone had access to the same products regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, or class, thereby challenging the aristocratic norms of the rest of the world whereby only the rich or well-connected access to luxury. The "Dream of Freedom of Choice," with its ever expanding variety of good allowed people to fashion their own particular life style. Finally, the "Dream of Novelty," in which ever-changing fashions, new models, and unexpected new products broadened the consumer experience in terms of purchasing skills and awareness of the market, and challenged the conservatism of traditional society and culture, and even politics. Ownby acknowledges that the dreams of the new consumer culture radiated out from the major cities, but notes that they quickly penetrated the most rural and most isolated areas, such as rural Mississippi. With the arrival of the model T after 1910, consumers in rural America were no longer locked into local general stores with their limited merchandise and high prices, and to comparison shop and in towns and cities. Ownby demonstrates that poor black Mississippians shared in the new consumer culture, both inside Mississippi, and it motivated the more ambitious to move to Memphis or Chicago.[sup][17][/sup][sup][18][/sup].

You've been watching too many TV commercials. Seems to me you're starting to believe them.
 

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Communism is a ghost of modernism

Ayn Rand and the fusion of Objectivism and Capitalism into Americanism is the problem - nothing Christian about it either.

Go read Atlas Shrugged - every CEO manifesto and come back and tell me about the immorality of communism.....

The American Dream - Mad Men on AMC - Ayn Rand's philosophy turned into a TV show.
 

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The American Dream is a part of history and defined by it. Sorry.

"The Dream" is the result of advertising and media hype.

The fastest car.
The biggest house.
The best job.
The prettiest wife.
The attitude of 'one up' on one's neighbor.

And a god who turns a blind eye to the way we got it.

The biggest difference between Communism and godless American capitalism is the millions of imprisoned and dead souls who have suffered under the red flag. I like to think that I have no illusions about American foreign policy, but neither have I accepted the fantasy that Communism is a good thing.

Personally I prefer the future monarchy of Jesus Christ.
 

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"World Communism Is Not Dead"

There will be a World dictator.

Revelation 13:7 (NKJV)
[sup]7[/sup] And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.