Yes, it is possible to reconcile all of the New Testament Scriptures

[Zachary]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Since almost the beginning, all humans have been born with an inherited sin nature.
But, because of God’s great love and mercy, He devised a Plan to save some of them.
The Word (i.e. God) came down from heaven, and became flesh, and lived on the earth.
This “God-man”, the Messiah, came to die for the sins of the world and to redeem man.
Gabriel said to call Him “Jesus (Savior)”; He came to give mankind many spiritual truths.
Those who “believe”(?) in Jesus and His gospel (good news) message were to be saved.
They would be reconciled to God, justified, and receive Jesus’ imputed righteousness.
They would be sanctified (set apart) to be worked on by the Holy Spirit unto holiness.
God’s grace (unmerited favor) made eternal life possible for some … for it is conditional.
Jesus gave many instructions and commandments as part of His great gospel of salvation.
These were to be followed to the best of man’s ability because of the first commandment,
which says to love God with all of your heart, and all of your soul, and all of your mind.
Jesus said those who love Him will keep His commandments. Does anyone get to heaven
who does not love Jesus? Does anyone get to heaven who does not keep His commands?
Those who “know” Jesus keep His commandments; this “knowing” results in eternal life!
He who keeps Jesus’ commandments will bear fruit of eternal value, which will glorify the
Father, but he who does not bear fruit is cast out, taken away, thrown in the fire, burned.
Those who overcome “as I also overcame” will be allowed to be seated with Him in heaven.
Believers are called to be overcomers … they are to overcome sin, the devil, and the world.
All of this is about a continual action: a continuing belief-faith accompanied by obedience.
In all of the NT letters written to the churches, we see warnings about the need for this.
One of the warnings: believers must continue practicing/maintaining their righteousness
(which reminds some people of Jesus’ warnings about hating one’s life in order to save it).
Another continuous warnings to churches: habitual unrepentant sin leads to eternal death!
E.G. Habitual unrepentant sinners are not allowed to inherit/enter the kingdom of heaven.
And one’s belief-faith-trust-obedience must endure all the way until the end of one’s life!
Having a true saving belief-faith is all about having the correct heart attitude toward God,
and following through with obedience, for “he who does the will of God abides forever”.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]• “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord’, shall enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]‘Lord, Lord’ … And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me,
you who practice lawlessness!’ Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine,
and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock …” (Jesus, [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]Matthew 7:21-24[/SIZE])
[SIZE=10.5pt]Notice the contrast between doing God’s will vs. practicing lawlessness (sin).[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Doing God’s will gets you into the kingdom of heaven.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Doing lawlessness (sin) gets you rejected by Jesus.
Whoever commits sin commits lawlessness; sin is lawlessness, as is all unrighteousness![/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]• “Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you,
will seek to enter and will not be able.” (Jesus, [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]Luke 13:24[/SIZE])
[SIZE=10.5pt]Years ago, I used to think this was referring to the many people of other religions![/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Now, I believe this “striving” refers to trying to obey the gospel and the commandments.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Paul often wrote about his struggle to run the race and his hope of salvation.

All of the above is Scriptural … if you would like a reference for something, please ask.

Is all of the above from the Scriptures a pile of nonsense?
Or perhaps you can see how it reconciles the whole of the New Testament?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]And a closing thought …[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Even though I don’t believe this little item is brought up in the NT,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]I ask you … does it make any sense?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Unbelievers who sin habitually go to hell.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Believers who sin habitually go to heaven.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]What is all this business about "God is no respecter of persons"?[/SIZE]

 

[StanJ]

A few responses Zachary;

Unbelievers DO sin habitually, as it is their nature, so their ultimate wrong is NOT accepting Jesus, which damns them to eternal punishment.

Believers who do have a problem with sin are admonished to leave it behind and move on, Heb 12:1, and move on towards wholeness. Their reward is Eternal LIFE, not heaven.

God is NOT influenced by title or position as men are. God looks at the heart.

 

[ATP]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Believers who sin habitually go to heaven.[/SIZE]

1 John 3:9 NIV No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

 

[Zachary]

1 John 3:9 NIV
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them;
they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

John is trying to outdo Paul by stating what he wishes were true!
Paul does this quite often.
An example is the U/L found in Romans 6:18-19 ...
[SIZE=12pt]"And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]... so now present your members as slaves of righteousness"[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Please note that Romans 6 is all about Paul's dire warning to them:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]sin results in eternal death ... but if you're still in Christ[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] (not sinning), [/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]you're okay and still under God's grace (Romans 6:23).[/SIZE]

 

[Zachary]

Perhaps a reminder is in order ...
[SIZE=12pt]“… narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to [/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt](eternal) life, and there are few who find it.” (Matthew 7:14)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]This flies directly in the faces of easy believism and greasy grace.[/SIZE]

 

[ATP]

John is trying to outdo Paul by stating what he wishes were true!
Paul does this quite often.
An example is the U/L found in Romans 6:18-19 ...
[SIZE=12pt]"And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]... so now present your members as slaves of righteousness"[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Please note that Romans 6 is all about Paul's dire warning to them:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]sin results in eternal death ... but if you're still in Christ[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] (not sinning), [/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]you're okay and still under God's grace (Romans 6:23).[/SIZE]

Take a look again. Notice the word "seed"...1 John 3:9 NIV No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

1. This seed, truth and word of God remains in them.
2. This seed, truth and word of God is perishable without the root of Jesus Christ.
3. This seed, truth and word of God is imperishable if you have the root of Jesus Christ.
4. This seed, truth and word of God seals us until redemption.
5. This seed, truth and word of God lives in us and will be with us forever.

Matt 13:20-23 NIV The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 22The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. 23But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”

Luke 8:11 NIV “This is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God.

1 Cor 15:54-57 NIV When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.” 55“Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?” 56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Eph 1:13-14 NIV And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

1 Pet 1:23 NIV For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.

2 John 1:2 NIV because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:

Do you have the seed, truth, root and word of God Zach living in you? John 3:3, 7, Rom 10:9-10 - ATP

 

[ATP]

Perhaps a reminder is in order ...
[SIZE=12pt]“… narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to [/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt](eternal) life, and there are few who find it.” (Matthew 7:14)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]This flies directly in the faces of easy believism and greasy grace.[/SIZE]

Matt 7:13-14 NIV - Believing only comes once. What does Jesus mean when he says "through me"...

John 10:9 NIV I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture.

John 14:6 NIV Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Matt 7:13-14 NIV - These passages refer to salvation in Christ. Jesus is describing two gates, the gate to death Job 38:17 NIV, Psalm 107:18 NIV, Isa 38:10 NIV, Matt 16:18 NIV.......and the gate to heaven and eternal life Matt 7:14 NIV, Matt 22:14 NIV, Luke 13:22-30 NIV, John 10:9 NIV, John 14:6 NIV, Acts 14:27 NIV.

Also, the word "destruction" refers to the spirit of the antichrist...2 Thess 2:3 NIV Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

And the word "perish" refers to nonbelievers...John 3:16 NIV For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

 

[StanJ]

[SIZE=12pt]This flies directly in the faces of easy believism and greasy grace.[/SIZE]

I like it! Will have to remember this line. ;)

 

[OzSpen]

Zachary,

According to the heading you created, you state that it is possible to reconcile all of the NT Scriptures. Have you examined all conflicts and supposed conflicts in the entire NT and reconciled ALL of them?

Please reconcile these three verses:

1 Cor 11:5 (ESV): 'but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven'.

1 Cor 14:34 (ESV): 'the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says'.

1 Tim 2:12 (HCSB): 'I do not allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; instead, she is to be silent'.

 

[Zachary]

OzSpen,
Did you read the OP?
I'm talking about salvation, and if it can be lost (rejected, fallen from, etc.).

 

[ATP]

OzSpen,
Did you read the OP?
I'm talking about salvation, and if it can be lost (rejected, fallen from, etc.).

No response to post 6&7. hmm. :mellow:

 

[Zachary]

No response to post 6&7. hmm. :mellow:

Bin dere and done dat ...
I ask for a comment on a whole bunch of verses,
and what I get is another whole bunch of different verses
(which seem to favor the poster's position)!

One has to REONCILE all of the NT verses to have a viable doctrine of salvation.

So, get busy, and quit wasting people's time.

 

[ATP]

Bin dere and done dat ...
I ask for a comment on a whole bunch of verses,
and what I get is another whole bunch of different verses
(which seem to favor the poster's position)!

One has to REONCILE all of the NT verses to have a viable doctrine of salvation.

So, get busy, and quit wasting people's time.

But forever means forever, no?

2 John 1:2 NIV because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:

 

[OzSpen]

OzSpen,
Did you read the OP?
I'm talking about salvation, and if it can be lost (rejected, fallen from, etc.).

It's too bad that you did not put salvation in the title of your thread. You had more in the OP than salvation, including:

1. 'Notice the contrast between doing God’s will vs. practicing lawlessness (sin).'
2. 'What is all this business about "God is no respecter of persons"?'

 

[logabe]

But forever means forever, no?

2 John 1:2 NIV because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:

No... it means to the Age.

Logabe

 

[Zachary]

Matt 7:13-14 NIV - Believing only comes once.
What does Jesus mean when he says "through me"...

Check out "in Me" (John 15:1+) and see where some of those "in Me" end up.
These are the tares, who are in the kingdom of God/heaven!
(I learned this yesterday)
I.E. one must be in this kingdom to make it to heaven,
but not all in this kingdom make it to heaven.

"Believing only comes once" ... is from the very pits of hell.

 

[Zachary]

It's too bad that you did not put salvation in the title of your thread. You had more in the OP than salvation, including:

1. 'Notice the contrast between doing God’s will vs. practicing lawlessness (sin).'
2. 'What is all this business about "God is no respecter of persons"?'

Numero uno has everything to do with salvation.

 

[Zachary]

But ...

Don't feel bad ... your's is the typical response of "believers" who:
-- do NOT want to accept what Scripture clearly says
-- do want to reject and disobey what Scripture clearly says
-- do want to rationalize their way out of obeying Scripture
-- do want to hope that their "grace only" gospel will get them to heaven
etc.

 

[Zachary]

[SIZE=12pt]“… narrow is the gate and [/SIZE][SIZE=medium]difficult[/SIZE][SIZE=medium] is the way which leads to [/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt](eternal) life, and there are few who find it.” (Matthew 7:14)[/SIZE]

“And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.
For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and
count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it — lest, after he has
laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him,
saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish’? ... So likewise,
whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.” (Luke 14:27-33http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Luke 14.27-33)

Again, so much for the easy believism and easy grace gospel.

 

[ATP]

No... it means to the Age.

Logabe

Uhh no. The "truth" which is the seed of God is sealed in us until redemption and is imperishable..

2 John 1:2 NIV because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:

Eph 1:13-14 NIV And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

1 Pet 1:23 NIV For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.

Check out "in Me" (John 15:1+) and see where some of those "in Me" end up.
These are the tares, who are in the kingdom of God/heaven!
(I learned this yesterday)
I.E. one must be in this kingdom to make it to heaven,
but not all in this kingdom make it to heaven.

"Believing only comes once" ... is from the very pits of hell.

John 15:1 is an allegory. That's like proving soul sleep is false by using Luke 16:19-31. :huh:

"Believing only comes once" ... is from the very pits of hell.

Notice it says "when you believed", "you were marked" past tense bro..

Eph 1:13-14 NIV And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

Rom 10:9-10 NIV If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

Don't feel bad ... your's is the typical response of "believers" who:
-- do NOT want to accept what Scripture clearly says
-- do want to reject and disobey what Scripture clearly says
-- do want to rationalize their way out of obeying Scripture
-- do want to hope that their "grace only" gospel will get them to heaven
etc.

Well, it's hard not to feel bad for you. The deception of your doctrine is overwhelming at times. I'm usually in awe most days.

“And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.
For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and
count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it — lest, after he has
laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him,
saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish’? ... So likewise,
whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.” (Luke 14:27-33http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Luke 14.27-33)

Again, so much for the easy believism and easy grace gospel.

And I believe in the perservance of the saints in which the truth and the promised Holy Spirit that lives in us will be with us forever and is sealed in us until redemption...

2 John 1:2 NIV because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:

Eph 1:13-14 NIV And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.