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Are humans transitioning to a state of prefection?

What is human perfection?

When is it obtained? Happen?

Using these two sources, and any others submitted, I hope to get the facts of this "tormented phase in the history of the Church" (per Pope John Paul 11)(from CERC).



(1)This is a link to the Catholic Education Resource Center (CERC): Status: Inquisition in the Catholic Church
(2)Henry Charles Lea, The History of the Inquisition of the Middle Ages.

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers...

I woke this morning with this question for God: why do we all hear a different message in His word? How can we read the same verses and not agree on the meaning?

What distorts?
What divides?


1 Corinthians 14:24-26 KJV
[24] But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: [25] And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth. [26] How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

Here are those verses I always...

Do you know much about it? Any theories?

it is stated that the Pope said there will be Atheists in Heaven - but it seems Christianity also states this - so who is going to accept or reject this and why ? - any comments - twinc

The golden rule according to secular:
Do to others what you want them to do to you

In reference to:
KJV: Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

If you agree that you should do unto others as you would have them do unto you, then, you also agree that what you do unto others should be done unto you. Because if you live by the golden rule you expect the same in return.
Therefore, if you murder someone, then what should be done to you? golden rule doesn’t negate eye for an eye.

Therefore, one doesn’t agree to be treat as one would be treated by treating others as one would not be treated. The agreement is to treat as one would be treated....

Jesus tells us the Words Spoken by a Man in Hell for over 2000 years!!!

And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.'
25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.
26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'
27 Then he said, 'I...

Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. James 1:15

reserved for anyone who has found Speaking in Tongues in the OT please.

how many times do you say "i have to" or "i gotta" in a day?
How many times do you hear it said?
What is another common way to define this concept, this something that you have to do?