The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

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Spiritual Israelite

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You have nothing to bring to the table but noise.

Facts are stubborn things!
Look what happens every time pre-tribs have no answers to our posts. They start complaining about insults, as if they haven't frequently made insults themselves. That's always their go to excuse to get out of admitting that they have nothing to refute what we've said.
 

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Gaslighter…Dishonest…
I have not mentioned being insulted…
You are the one being dishonest.

You said:

Taken said:
Pfff… no interest in your hate, accusations, finger pointing, some irrelevant dead mens beliefs, blather to wonder, guess, what you believe.
Are you telling me that you don't consider "hate, accusations, finger pointing" to be insults?
 

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You fail at speaking your own Standing…
Yet you think yourself qualified to speak for others…

Blue Ribbon award for Delusion!
You act like a little child. It's pointless trying to have an adult discussion with you. You have no ability to stay focused and just stick to the topic. You post incoherent gibberish whenever you do try to talk about scripture and the rest of the time you just make things personal and try to distract from how weak your doctrine is.
 

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They have nothing. Their doctrine is dead!
It is six feet under and they are frustrated that they have no scriptural arguments to make in response to us. That's why all they do is whine about insults despite making a lot of insulting comments themselves. If they had anything in response to what we're showing in scripture, they would show it, but they have nothing at all.
 

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LOL. Talk about childishness!

Is this an attribute required to debate Pretrib online?

False facts does not qualify you to discuss let alone debate Gods Offering of Escape from His Judgements upon the inhabitants upon the Whole face of the Earth.
 

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False facts does not qualify you to discuss let alone debate Gods Offering of Escape from His Judgements upon the inhabitants upon the Whole face of the Earth.
We who belong to Christ will escape what Paul said those in spiritual darkness will not escape, which is the "sudden destruction" that will come unexpectedly as a thief in the night when Jesus returns (1 Thessalonians 5:2-3). Peter indicated that the "sudden destruction" Paul said will occur on that day Jesus returns will be caused by fire coming down on the entire earth (2 Peter 3:10-12). Nowhere does scripture say we will be taken off of the earth at any point before that day that Jesus destroys all of His enemies on the earth.
 
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We who belong to Christ will escape what Paul said those in spiritual darkness will not escape, which is the "sudden destruction" that will come unexpectedly as a thief in the night when Jesus returns (1 Thessalonians 5:2-3). Peter indicated that the "sudden destruction" Paul said will occur on that day Jesus returns will be caused by fire coming down on the entire earth (2 Peter 3:10-12). Nowhere does scripture say we will be taken off of the earth at any point before that day that Jesus destroys all of His enemies on the earth.

Jesus’s descent to the Clouds…is Not Jesus’ return to Earth…

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A mystery to you the meaning of those things…. :rolleyes:
 
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Nowhere does scripture say we will be taken off of the earth at any point before that day that Jesus destroys all of His enemies on the earth.

False. It is plain language.
No matter to me if you reject Gods Truth.

Matt 24:
[37] But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Gen 7:
[17] And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

1 Thes. 4:
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 

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Jesus’s descent to the Clouds…is Not Jesus’ return to Earth…

Earth
Clouds
A mystery to you the meaning of those things…. :rolleyes:
LOL. The real mystery is why Jesus would bother descending from heaven to meet us in the air if He's just going to turn around and return to heaven with us. Why wouldn't we just be gathered and brought to Him to meet Him in heaven instead of "in the air" in that case? I'm sure you have no convincing answer to that question.
 

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False. It is plain language.
No matter to me if you reject Gods Truth.

Matt 24:
[37] But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Gen 7:
[17] And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

1 Thes. 4:
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Is the following not plain language to you in terms of what He is going to do to His enemies at that point, which can be compared to what happened to unbelievers when the flood came?

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
 
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