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I believe that is referring to nominal, name only, Christians.Yes it can be. I always recall the scripture of 'Not everyone who says to me Lord, lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my father who is in heaven', something along those lines
No I recall the scripture says 'My sheep hear my voice and follow me. No one can snatch them out of my hand.'I believe that is referring to nominal, name only, Christians.
John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all ; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.
Yes, that would one part would be in verse 27 preceding verses 28 & 29 that I'd already posted.No I recall the scripture says 'My sheep hear my voice and follow me. No one can snatch them out of my hand.'
Hello there,
I found this video clip entitled, 'Can Salvation be Lost', on a site I visit often called, believer.com, and thought it would be helpful to someone.
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
but to say these verses are talking about not keeping the 1st and 2nd greatest commandments and still being able to make it to Heaven are a fallacy.
I don't think anyone at all keeps those commandments as they would have to be kept, if that were what determined our acceptability to God. Since God is completely holy, and, without holiness, no one will see God, I have to ask, who loves God with all their heart at all times?
Love for God supplants everything else, and of itself flows unbidden from our hearts to all who are around us. When we have absolute love for God alone. This is what I believe.
But our acceptability by God isn't determined our performance, or how fully we can grow in love for God and others.
For me, nothing in my life is intended to keep the Law given through Moses to Israel.In the strictest sense, I'm guessing not many. But then who always keeps the second commandant without fail? James bemoaned the fact that many of those he was writing to were not keeping that perfectly either. But the question becomes, do we keep it? A child that obeys his father on a regular basis yet fails in one place is simply a child who has to be dealt with on that issue alone, but he could rightly still be called an obedient child. Likewise, those who regularly live their lives observing the 1st and 2nd greatest commandments could be said to be keeping them, even should they fail on certain occasions and in certain instances regardless.
Of course NOTHING happens that is only in theory and not in practice. Like saying, You're not doing it if you aren't doing it.Not if we only do so in theory, but not in practice.
Our acceptability is not in question. Nor is salvation. Obedience is what is in question.
For me, nothing in my life is intended to keep the Law given through Moses to Israel.
For me, my primary intention, my one big thing to do, is, remain settled in my mind that God loves me, and has redeemed me, He owns me, has forgiven me, the first and foremost and #1 thing, trust Him!
Both in my Bible reading, and in my experience in life, I find that the more settled we are concerning our acceptability to God, the more consistently we walk in the Spirit.
I know, people become afraid, "IF you tell them they are forgiven, they will just utterly paganize themselves!" But I find, in knowing I'm forgiven, I feel free to be with the God Who's come to live inside me.
Isn't that all bound up in trusting Him?after this there is letting Him do His work of conforming us to His image,
On this point, I'd jump over to one of the chastisement threads. God will train us, and if He has to use the grievous ways, He will, and it will be effective upon us.But a child who no longer seeks to conform to his father's image, or walk in obedience to Him is now on shaky ground, IMO, no matter how he may see himself.
I daresay he was welcomed back because he was a son. Besides, he wouldn't have been allowed to keep the pigs, I would think. I wonder what he smelled like?He was welcomed back because the father could see he was leaving the pigs behind in returning home.