Once Saved Always Saved

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That's not what that verse says. It says "kept by God's power through faith" but it nowhere says God's power continues keeping those who depart from the faith--

No kidding!!

THE CONTINUING TO HEAR...IS PRECISELY "HOW" AN INDIVIDUAL "INCREASES" IN FAITH!

God is NOT KEEPING THE "unconverted" man "IN FAITH'...
God is Gifting the man measures of FAITH,
FOR the man, by his OWN POWER, to CONTINUE HEARING Gods Word.

Between There ^

(Any man CAN (by his own Power STOP Listening, STOP Hearing, STOP Believing)

and Here >

THE individual WHO HEARTFULLY CONFESSES his BELIEF.... "THEN" Everything for that man CHANGES....."GODS POWER KEEPS that man "IN FAITH----FULLNESS". For Ever.

and Hebrews 3:12-13 says the heart can become hardened and unbelieving on account of sinfulness, and Hebrews 10:36-39 says if we don't endure God will destroy us.

Sure a Heart can become Hardened....
"IF" the man HAS NOT BECOME Converted.[/B]

 

[GracePeace]

No kidding!!

THE CONTINUING TO HEAR...IS PRECISELY "HOW" AN INDIVIDUAL "INCREASES" IN FAITH!

God is NOT KEEPING THE man "IN FAITH'...
God is Gifting the man measures of FAITH,
FOR the man, by his OWN POWER, to CONTINUE HEARING Gods Word.

Between There ^

(Any man CAN (by his own Power STOP Listening, STOP Hearing, STOP Believing)

and Here >

THE individual WHO HEARTFULLY CONFESSES his BELIEF.... "THEN" Everything for that man CHANGES....."GODS POWER KEEPS that man "IN FAITH----FULLNESS". For Ever.



Sure a Heart can become Hardened....
"IF" the man HAS NOT BECOME Converted.

Regarding Hebrews 3, it says by means of sin hearts are hardened and that it can happen to "brothers".

Update : I reread what you said and boy are you mixed up. LOL You have to do all kinds of mental gymnastics to retain your position. Where is an unbeliever said to have faith? That would make him a believer! LOL

 

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Regarding Hebrews 3, it says by means of sin hearts are hardened and that it can happen to "brothers".

Any man who has become a "son of God", SINS NO MORE.

Becoming a "son of God";
requires...A CONVERSION.
A Conversion, requires ...
HEARTFUL CONFESSION OF BELIEF IN God in Heaven "AND" Christ Jesus.

There ARE MANY "brethren" (JEWS), who BELIEVE in God, and "DO NOT BELIEVE in Christ Jesus, Son of God, their Messiah."

Yes, Jews CAN stop believing in God.
Yes, Jews CAN Never believe in Christ Jesus.
Yes, Gentiles can never believe in God, or In Christ Jesus.
Yes, Gentiles can stop believing in God, and In Christ Jesus.

ANY man who has HEARTFULLY Confessed Belief IN God "AND" Christ Jesus....SHALL Never Again (SIN)...Stop Believing IN God "AND" Christ Jesus....BECAUSE the POWER of God IS IN THEM, "MAKING" THEM FAITH-full, and KEEPING them IN BELIEF, and FAITHFUL to the Lord God Almighty. Never Again can they NOT BELIEVE.

Jews began being "BROTHERS" IN CHRIST...
THEN after the Apostals Died off...
Jews returned to Preaching God and waiting for their Messiah..."Keeping their Jewish LAW".

Some Jews have (MORE MODERNALY), BEGAN accepting Christ Jesus as their Messiah....they do not call themselves "Christians". They call themselves; "Messianic Jews".

Some Scripture IS precisely to JEWS, who were Under the Law, and Learning ABOUT Jesus.
Some Scripture IS precisely to GENTILES, who knew nothing about God or Jesus.
All Scripture does not apply the same to Every individual.

I am Converted.
My "brothers" are other individuals who ARE Converted.
My "brothers" are NOT Jews who are still under the Law, "not accepting" Christ Jesus.

Jesus has provided a WAY for all men to become Converted.
Many Gentiles Reject His offer.
Many Jews Reject His offer.
The Converted, are accounted as Christ's People.
The UnConverted STILL obeying the Jewish Law, are accounted as Gods People.
What Jesus has offered to His People is ...
FOREVER LIFE.
TO BE WITH HIM FOR EVER.
TO BE NOT SUBJECT TO ... WRATH.
TO BE NOT SUBJECT TO ... DAMNATION.

God has always "punished" His People for "disobedience"... Gods People Rejecting Christ Jesus IS "disobedience"... they shall Suffer, a small portion of Wrath...(expressly the Wrath of the Lamb) ...(and portions of the Wrath of the Devil).....
God has a plan FOR THEIR SALVATION, TO Learn About Christ Jesus, FROM "JEWS", (Gods Witnesses)...
They SHALL NOT SUFFER, Gods WRATH.

 

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Why does Paul say:
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection?

What is "it" ?

 

[GracePeace]

Any man who has become a "son of God", SINS NO MORE.

Oops! The verse you're referencing teaches those born of God, who retain God's Word in themselves, don't CONTINUE in sin (see the exegesis of the Greek of that verse here) I agree. That stipulation doesn't cover those who do not keep the seed. Being God's child isn't immutable Deuteronomy 32:5.

Becoming a "son of God";
requires...A CONVERSION.
A Conversion, requires ...
HEARTFUL CONFESSION OF BELIEF IN God in Heaven "AND" Christ Jesus.

Your error is in rejecting God's Holy Word which establishes the precedent that God's children can be rejected as God's children "they are no longer His Children" Deuteronomy 32:5. Join a different religion since you hate this one's teachings.

There ARE MANY "brethren" (JEWS), who BELIEVE in God, and "DO NOT BELIEVE in Christ Jesus, Son of God, their Messiah."

LOL Not whom God recognizes as "My Righteous One"!
Again an unbeliever can't fall away from God because he isn't with God in the first place.

Yes, Jews CAN stop believing in God.
Yes, Jews CAN Never believe in Christ Jesus.
Yes, Gentiles can never believe in God, or In Christ Jesus.
Yes, Gentiles can stop believing in God, and In Christ Jesus.

Epistles aren't written to unbelievers! LOL

ANY man who has HEARTFULLY Confessed Belief IN God "AND" Christ Jesus....SHALL Never Again (SIN)

So, according to God's Word I know you're a liar because "anyone who says they haven't sinned is a liar and God's Word doesn't abide in them" rather "if we walk in the Light... the blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin". So stop lying against God. You think you are holier than John? He sinned in Revelation 22:8-9 bowing to worship a creature! Get over yourself!

...Stop Believing IN God "AND" Christ Jesus....BECAUSE the POWER of God IS IN THEM, "MAKING" THEM FAITH-full, and KEEPING them IN BELIEF, and FAITHFUL to the Lord God Almighty. Never Again can they NOT BELIEVE.

Sorry you reject Hebrews 10:36-39 which says if God's righteous one doesn't endure he won't receive the promise but be destroyed and then affirms such a group exists but encourages them that they aren't going to be among them (eg, the ones referred to in Hebrews 6 who cannot be restored to repentance because they've put Christ to an open shame and offended God in that way).

Jews began being "BROTHERS" IN CHRIST...
THEN after the Apostals Died off...
Jews returned to Preaching God and waiting for their Messiah..."Keeping their Jewish LAW".

You're confused. The Judaizers were hard at work while Apostle Paul was alive--read Galatians.

Some Scripture IS precisely to JEWS, who were Under the Law, and Learning ABOUT Jesus.
Some Scripture IS precisely to GENTILES, who knew nothing about God or Jesus.
All Scripture does not apply the same to Every individual.

Nope, epistles aren't written to unbelievers only Churches.

I am Converted.
My "brothers" are other individuals who ARE Converted.
My "brothers" are NOT Jews who are still under the Law, "not accepting" Christ Jesus.

You reject God's Word, which says believers have been misled with a false gospel, bewitched, and errantly gone back under Law Galatians 1:6, Galatians 3:1-5, Galatians 4:21, Galatians 5:3-4. You just reject Apostolic teaching to make your man-made tradition make sense. Join a different religion buddy.

Jesus has provided a WAY for all men to become Converted.
Many Gentiles Reject His offer.
Many Jews Reject His offer.
The Converted, are accounted as Christ's People.
The UnConverted STILL obeying the Jewish Law, are accounted as Gods People.
What Jesus has offered to His People is ...
FOREVER LIFE.
TO BE WITH HIM FOR EVER.
TO BE NOT SUBJECT TO ... WRATH.
TO BE NOT SUBJECT TO ... DAMNATION.

Interesting. God says "you are not My people and I am not your God" Hosea 1:9-10.

God has always "punished" His People for "disobedience"... Gods People Rejecting Christ Jesus IS "disobedience"... they shall Suffer, a small portion of Wrath...(expressly the Wrath of the Lamb) ...(and portions of the Wrath of the Devil).....
God has a plan FOR THEIR SALVATION, TO Learn About Christ Jesus, FROM "JEWS", (Gods Witnesses)...
They SHALL NOT SUFFER, Gods WRATH.

No the unbelieving Jews are "cut off from their people" Romans 11:17-23 and going to hell. They deny the Son and so do not have the Father--they don't have eternal life.

 

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Regarding Hebrews 3, it says by means of sin hearts are hardened and that it can happen to "brothers".

Update : I reread what you said and boy are you mixed up. LOL You have to do all kinds of mental gymnastics to retain your position. Where is an unbeliever said to have faith? That would make him a believer! LOL

Mental is the MIND. The MIND is last thing to come into Understanding the Word of God.

If you Walk in the Spirit, Think in the Spirit.
A Converted man WITH A NEW BORN AGAIN SPIRIT....IS a New TRUTH (spirit) IN YOUR HEART...NOT YOUR MIND.

God DOES NOT CHANGE the "FAITHFUL".
God CHANGES "CORRUPT SINNERS" INTO "FAITH-FUL" individuals.
(IOW....God DOES NOT "SAVE" the SAVED".)
God SAVES the "UNSAVED".

A Heartful Confession of Belief, IS NOT MADE by the SAVED. It's MADE by the UNSAVED.

A SINFUL man can not BECOME "saved", WITHOUT "FAITH"!!!.

God is the GIVER of FAITH.
God "GIVES"......MEASURES of FAITH....
To Men.

HOW, WHY, HOW MUCH Faith does God Give a MAN?

* HOW...IS by Gods POWER.
* WHY...BECAUSE THE individual man (by his own power....( less mommy is dragging you kicking and screaming to Church)...CHOSE TO HEAR the Word of God.
* HOW MUCH...(faith does a man receive?)...
Depends on HOW MUCH the man is willing TO HEAR the Word of God.

For some men...
Never hearing is okay with them.
Or twice a year.
Or an hour a week.
Or everyday.

Rom 10:
[17] ... faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

[GracePeace]

Mental is the MIND. The MIND is last thing to come into Understanding the Word of God.

If you Walk in the Spirit, Think in the Spirit.
A Converted man WITH A NEW BORN AGAIN SPIRIT....IS a New TRUTH (spirit) IN YOUR HEART...NOT YOUR MIND.

God DOES NOT CHANGE the "FAITHFUL".
God CHANGES "CORRUPT SINNERS" INTO "FAITH-FUL" individuals.
(IOW....God DOES NOT "SAVE" the SAVED".)
God SAVES the "UNSAVED".

A Heartful Confession of Belief, IS NOT MADE by the SAVED. It's MADE by the UNSAVED.

A SINFUL man can not BECOME "saved", WITHOUT "FAITH"!!!.

God is the GIVER of FAITH.
God "GIVES"......MEASURES of FAITH....
To Men.

HOW, WHY, HOW MUCH Faith does God Give a MAN?

* HOW...IS by Gods POWER.
* WHY...BECAUSE THE individual man (by his own power....( less mommy is dragging you kicking and screaming to Church)...CHOSE TO HEAR the Word of God.
* HOW MUCH...(faith does a man receive?)...
Depends on HOW MUCH the man is willing TO HEAR the Word of God.

For some men...
Never hearing is okay with them.
Or twice a year.
Or an hour a week.
Or everyday.

Rom 10:
[17] ... faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Anyway, there are no unbelievers with faith--that's an oxymoron.

 

[GracePeace]

Mental is the MIND. The MIND is last thing to come into Understanding the Word of God...

Rom 10:
[17] ... faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

So according to you if a Chinese speaking person preaches the Gospel to an English speaking person they can have faith? LOL Why does Paul say he would prefer to speak a few words in an intelligible language rather than 10000 words in an unknown language then? Because no one is spritually edified if they can't understand what's being said. You're mixed up. If someone preaches in a language you don't speak it doesn't help you--your MIND has to understand BEFORE you can have faith, so what do you mean the mind is last? LOL

NEXT!

 

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...those who do not keep the seed.

LOL..."the seed"....what seed? How do they not KEEP, "the seed"... cough it up? LOL

Your error is in rejecting God's Holy Word [/B]

False claim.

Epistles aren't written to unbelievers! LOL

That IS FUNNY Claim you made.

So, according to God's Word I know you're a liar

According to YOUR WORD, I know you are inept at comprehension, and make unfounded slanderous accusations.

because "anyone who says they haven't sinned is a liar

Here is YOUR unfounded slanderous accusation....
NOW mr GracePeace...be a Honest boy and "QUOTE ME SAYING I HAVE NOT SINNED"...

Nope, epistles aren't written to unbelievers only Churches.

LOL - I never mentioned "epistles".

You just reject Apostolic teaching to make your man-made tradition make sense.

Oops... you forgot to expressly Identify, Quoting me, what IS "my supposed man-made tradition" Hummm?

Interesting. God says "you are not My people and I am not your God" Hosea 1:9-10.

So? Guess you have a problem.

No the unbelieving Jews are "cut off from their people" Romans 11:17-23 and going to hell. They deny the Son and so do not have the Father--they don't have eternal life.

"Unbelieving Jew.....?? Form a complete thought...."Unbelieving IN WHAT?"
God, OR Christ Jesus....or BOTH.

It is obvious you are still in walking in a Juvenile's shoes. Short on Comprehension and Quick with a vile tongue.

 

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don't CONTINUE in sin (see the exegesis of the Greek of that verse here) I agree.

You need to understand this doesn't really change the meaning of the passage.

Whoever is born of God doesn't go on sinning. Does not continue in sin. Doesn't keep sinning. It's simpler than "habitual practice" or like that. A false word here, a bristled thought there, here a jab, there a jab, a worry, an anger, an impatience, a covetousness, here a little, there a little.

Again, as Paul also wrote, Now it is no more I, but sin that lives in me.

Much love!

 

[GracePeace]

You need to understand this doesn't really change the meaning of the passage.

Whoever is born of God doesn't go on sinning. Does not continue in sin. Doesn't keep sinning. It's simpler than "habitual practice" or like that. A false word here, a bristled thought there, here a jab, there a jab, a worry, an anger, an impatience, a covetousness, here a little, there a little.

Again, as Paul also wrote, Now it is no more I, but sin that lives in me.

Much love!

Refer to my previous reply where I've already answered these things.

 

[GracePeace]

LOL..."the seed"....what seed? How do they not KEEP, "the seed"... cough it up? LOL

Yeah you have no answers. I'm glad you're showing that to everyone. Your theology is baseless.

 

[Riverwalker]

Yes, it is a matter of faith.......continuance of faith.

Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to what we profess. Hebrews 4:14​

Grace and faith work together and both free gifts that cannot be earned
Ephesians 3: 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I'm learning from you and being inspired to deeper insights just as much as you (hopefully) are by me.


I think this is talking about the saved person who sins. 1 John 2:1 in that passage shows us that.


I think there is a condition......you have to acknowledge your sin. That's when cleansing occurs. Not legal cleansing. That happened the moment you and I were born again, praise God. Your continuing faith in Christ/God immediately covers your legal guilt, perhaps before you even realized you've sinned. But then there is the matter of God addressing your situational guilt and how it ties God's hands in the matter of you being in close, felt fellowship with Him. You've become 'dirty' that way, and it shuts the Spirit of God down inside of you. Which, eventually, as our dear brother @GracePeace has pointed out, can lead to unbelief. At which point you then lose your legal justification and are lost. I'm of the opinion that's quite a hard road to hoe and you'd have to be pretty stubborn and resistant to get to that point, but scripture does seem to bear out the fact that it can happen. The deeper the word is rooted in a person, the less likely that's going to happen to them. That's what I get out of the Parable of the Sower.

Lol......you sure have a way to complicate the things that God made simple.....The Bible That I read says that Jesus “ Took Away” the Sins Of the World.....All That is left for us to do is to “ cash in” on what has already been accomplished 2000 years ago.....Refusal to REST in what has already been done for us at the Cross leads to all kinds of confusion and complications....you have witnessed some of them here in this post....It”s “ Jesus Saves”. Period. That Simple.

 

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So according to you if a Chinese speaking person preaches the Gospel to an English speaking person they can have faith?

WHAT YOU blather, IS, According to YOU.

LOL

You speak gobblegook then ATTEMPT to FALSELY dump your words me...
THEN Laugh...

Your immaturity is Noted.

[ QUOTE] what do you mean the mind is last? [/QUOTE]

Rom 8:
[7] ...the carnal mind is enmity against God:

Can't say for you, but Scripture reveals Earthly men are Naturally Born IN SIN, AGAINST GOD.
Students of Scripture typically SHOULD have learned early on, the MIND is NOT "spiritual".
Guess you require more study, to Learn;
Exactly what God "Changes" in a Converted man, and Exactly HOW man is taught to MAKE his OWN MIND submissive to the thoughts of his CHANGED HEART.

LOL

You're comical, but not what you say.

 

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Yeah you have no answers. I'm glad you're showing that to everyone. Your theology is baseless.

LOL - no answer to an incomplete question...
That's right, sometimes ignorance should just be ignored along with trolls and your unfounded accusations.

 

[GracePeace]

Grace and faith work together and both free gifts that cannot be earned
Ephesians 3: 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

No, actually, the Greek shows that the "this is a gift" refers to the "salvation" not the "faith"--and, even in English, "not of works" would be redundant if "faith" was what "this is a gift" referred to. OBVIOUSLY "faith" and "works" are in completely different categories, so why would it be stated that "faith is a gift, it is not of works"? No, the salvation is a grace received through faith not of works.

 

[GracePeace]

WHAT YOU blather, IS, According to YOU.



You speak gobblegook then ATTEMPT to FALSELY dump your words me...
THEN Laugh...

Your immaturity is Noted.

what do you mean the mind is last?

Rom 8:
[7] ...the carnal mind is enmity against God:

Can't say for you, but Scripture reveals Earthly men are Naturally Born IN SIN, AGAINST GOD.
Students of Scripture typically SHOULD have learned early on, the MIND is NOT "spiritual".
Guess you require more study, to Learn;
Exactly what God "Changes" in a Converted man, and Exactly HOW man is taught to MAKE his OWN MIND submissive to the thoughts of his CHANGED HEART.



You're comical, but not what you say.

1) Oops! Paul could not speak to the Corinthian Christians as spiritual men but only as carnal men, so he could only impart the milk, the basics, of the Gospel--the "spiritual wisdom" the carnal men consider "folly" refers only to things the "spiritually mature" could hear, not to the Gospel. Therefore, it doesn't take a spiritual person to believe the Gospel.

2) Hidden in your false assumptions is the false doctrine of Calvinist justification. There is a thorough and complete refutation of that false doctrine on YouTube called "Protestantism's Big Justification Lie".

I will have to share the notes from that presentation in another set of replies.

 

[GracePeace]

1/2 Protestantism [Calvinism]'s Big Justification Lie Notes

Here, for the assistance of the readers (including yourself), are some notes that can disabuse people of your false justification doctrine:

According to "Reformed" theology, regeneration and justification are two separate acts which can even be separated temporally (even by years)--"Man must be regenerated first in order to believe later on," they insist.

Justification, they say, happens not within the man but outside of man in the tribunal of God, does not change a man at all, is merely a forensic declaration
about man, changes the person's status not the person, charges the sins of the believer to Christ and Christ's righteousness to the believer, and man's sins are removed and he becomes a child of God. Regeneration, on the other hand, they argue, happens within man and changes man.

Alister McGrath, "Justitia Dei" pp212-213
The following three features are characteristic of Protestant understanding of justification over the period of 1530 - 1730:
1. Justification is defined as the forensic declaration that believers are righteous, rather than the process by which they are made righteous, involving a
change in their status rather than in their nature.
2. A deliberate and systematic distinction is made between justification (the external act by which God declares the sinner to be righteous) and sanctification
or regeneration (the internal process of renewal within humans).
3. Justifying righteousness, or the formal cause of justification, is defined as the alien righteousness of Christ, external to humans and imputed to them,
rather than a righteousness which is inherent to them, located within them, or which in any sense may be said to belong to them.

Erwin Lutzer, "How You Can Know You Will Spend Eternity With God" p74
Justification happens outside of us; it is God's declaration in heaven that we are as righteous as Christ. The new birth happens inside of us.

John MacArthur, "Justification by Faith" (video)
Justification is a forensic or purely legal term. It describes what God declares about the believer, not what He does to change the believer. In fact,
justification effects no actual change whatsoever in the sinner's nature or character.

James White, "The God Who Justifies" p88, p94
When a man is justified, he himself is not changed (the change takes place in regeneration and sanctification).
...
Though he reborn and changed by the work of the Spirit in regeneration, and God continues the process of sanctification throughout his life, justification
itself does not change the man.

This view is held to because they know if they admit the actual Scriptural view it changes everything :

James White, "The God Who Justifies" p116
...if that imputation involves a subjective change in the person... the entire gospel message takes on a completely different meaning and nature.

 

[GracePeace]

2/2 Protestantism [Calvinism]'s Big Justification Lie Notes

Well, bad news, guys : Scripture actually teaches regeneration and justification are one and the same. Good news for my view is that these very same men
(who clearly are at odds with Scripture) unwittingly teach (while reading the Bible) what refutes their own error:

John Piper, "Through the Washing of Regeneration"
But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own
mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit.
Salvation is the big overarching idea in this text (verse 5: “he saved us”). But the specific way he does it is regeneration.

Piper just taught that to be regenerated is to be justified (saved)--and by acknowledging that regeneration (what happens within man) saves man, changes his
status, makes him right with God, etc, (because that's what the text he's quoting from plainly states) Piper contradicts Reformed theology on justification
and proves it's inconsistent and false.

Thus, enough with all of this anti-Scriptural Calvinist nonsensical wrangling about regeneration needing to precede justification. Stick with Scripture instead.

Titus 3:5
"...He saved us not because of works done by us in righteousness but according to his own mercy through the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy
Spirit."

Reject the clearly false teachings of Reformed theology (which ever ones are proven false--some of them are good).
Instead, be consistent, be logical, be honest.

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More comedy from ridiculous (worthy of ridicule) anti-Reformation "Reformed" "exponents" :

James White, "The God Who Justifies"
p57 : Here the apostle describes the desperate and hopeless condition of everyone, including Christians prior to the gracious act of regeneration (Ep 2:5).
We all share this state: deadness in trespasses and sins, enslavement to the 'ruler of the kingdom of the air,' sonship to disobedience, servitude to the
cravings and desires of the flesh...
p370 : This is the promise of the new birth as Jesus explained it to Nicodemus... and so the work of regeneration
and renewal that makes salvation the present reality in the believer is just as fully divine and God-centered as all that has come before. Here Paul is
describing the means by which He has saved.
p372 : God saves on the basis of His mercy, and he does so 'through' (dia) the work of the Spirit in regeneration and renewal...

He admits these passages are about regeneration--but I thought men were saved by justification not by regeneration.

James White, "The Potter's Freedom"
p252 : The elect, until they are regenerated, are fallen sons of Adam as are all others.

Oopsie! So sloppy. "Well, Poppie's a little sloppy." (A lot of people consider White to be a "father" in the faith.)

James White, "The Potter's Freedom"
p267 : There is an element of truth here in the sense that until the point of regeneration, the benefits of
Christ's death are not applied to the elect."

So, the benefits of Christ's death (which, of course, involve pardoning man's sins and changing his status) are applied in regeneration. He admits without
realizing that regeneration does what justification does.

R.C. Sproul, "Regeneration, A Sovereign Act"
(Ephesians 2) But what He is talking about is a divine and supernatural work by which a human being who by nature is a child of wrath is changed spiritually
from a state of spiritual death and transformed into a state o spiritual life which the Apostle calls here quickening. Now both quickening and rebirth are
what we consider under the topic of this word regeneration.

John MacArthur
Col 2:13 When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh He made you alive having forgiven you all your transgressions.
Again the testimony of Scripture is that this is a work of God. Regeneration is recreation, new life, being born again.

Regeneration wipes out man's transgressions--therefore regeneration justifies.

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Justification is ostensibly (so say the Calvinists) completely separate and different from regeneration (which occurs within man and changes man), yet, when faced with what Scripture teaches about regeneration, because God prevents them from understanding that the Scripture contradicts their position on the issue, they freely admit God changes man's status and saves him (therefore justifies him) specifically with what He does within man in regeneration (through what He does to change man).