Proof that Jesus is God

[Wrangler]

Sorry I hurt your wittle feelings.

Mocking is not in the Spirit.

 

[robert derrick]

"God is a Spirit" (John 4)

Therefore, that Spirit is God. (IF A = B, then B = A)

This isn't rocket science, and it only feels like childish reiteration of what is obvious to all, because certain pagans have crept in unawares to spy out our liberty and inform us that, though A = B, B still doesn't = A.

And how do they know this? Because they are ELECT. Yes, that's it folks. That is why the analytic math of Scripture is not so analytically true after all.

And if any other Scripture gets in their way, such as the Word was God, and so God was the Word, then the ELECT assure us that it is only 'figurative' speech by God, Who is not the Word, because the Word was not God, but rather the Word was only figuratively God.

I keep telling you. These are not serious people to be taken seriously. They are childish children. ELECT childish children I am sure, but childish children nonetheless...

 

[Wrangler]

"The "man" Jesus Christ, was/IS every much a "man" as you, or I am!"

I did not know my mother was a virgin at my birth.

So, despite the Bible repeatedly saying Jesus is a man, you don’t believe it. Wow!

 

[robert derrick]

"Mocking is not in the Spirit."

"But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh." (Prov 1)

Wrong again bozo.

Jehovahites. Jehovahities. Jehovahittites. Jehovahooters. Jehovahellions.

 

[robert derrick]

"The "man" Jesus Christ, was/IS every much a "man" as you, or I am!"

Neither Jesus nor I am a man such as you. Jesus was not a pagan, neither am I.

The man Christ Jesus is not a man of sin and never has been.

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition" (2 Thess 2)

By all the childish and insipidly foolish dribble that these Jehovahites have been peddling on this thread, I get the distinct feeling that a falling away is first come here...

 

[robert derrick]

Look, it's all very simple folks.

If you believe Jesus Christ was a created being from the beginning, then you can never ever worship the man Christ Jesus, because whether mortal or immortal, He is a created creature from the beginning and therefore must never be worshipped as the Creator can only be worshipped. (Rom 1)

A created christ is a false christ. (Matthew 24)

These people do not worship the little Lord Jesus, and will only worship their BIGGER LORD 'Jehovah'.

That is why they are the BIG ELECT, and we are just the little sheep.

I will follow the little Lord Jesus over their BIGGER LORD Jehovah, because their 'Jehovah' is not the Lord Jehovah of the Bible, and their created christ is not Jesus Christ of Scripture.

They are pagans worshipping in a cult of 'Jehovah', who give lip service to Jesus, while pushing a falsely created christ.

It's just that simple, folks.

 

[kcnalp]

We walk by faith understanding our God by the unseen eternal not by sight after the temporal seen.

The Spirit of Christ dwelt in the Son of man,Jesus is the treasure spoken of. Remember its one work performed by two working as one God ..

No power is attbuted to the flesh. It was the unsen power of the father working in Jesus to both will and empower him to live a life without sin .Jesu said of his own flesh as that part of the demonstration of the two profited for nothing.

2 Corinthian4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Job 9 says it directly while dismissing the idea of a Pope called a Daysman .(An infallible teaching umpire set between God not seen and mankind seen). One is our teaching master as Lord our Father in heaven

Job 9:32 -33 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.

Another witness

Job 33:12Behold, in this thou art not just: I will answer thee, that God is greater than man.

It would seem the idea that God is a man comes from a pagan foundation. (gods in likenes of men) . Therfore no faith coming as it is written. It would point to those who seek after the things seen as signs that cause wonderment and not prophecy the one source of faith in the end of a matter.

In that way Jesus declared to Nicodemus who did seek after signs and wonders. In respect to the greatest miracle you must be born again. . saying "marvel not" .Again wondering and marveling is not believing.

In the end of the matter ( 1 Samuel 8) Mankind was falsly hoping that God is a man. The faithless Jews gathered themselves together (not called by God) in their jealousy of the surrounding pagan nation and they demanded that they also would set up a government a hierarchy of men lording it over the understanding or faith of the non-venerable.

The Holy Spirit said to Samuel it’s not you seen that they reject a king reigning over them but myself as unseen God . The abomination of desolation Kings in Israel. . the temporal things seen in the place of the eternal things of God’s glory not seen. When the time of reformation came the order was restored to the faith principle .We are not to serve a hierarchy of men rather than our unseen God who is not a man

1 Samauel 8:7 And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.


2 Corinthians 5:7 For we walk by faith, not by sight:

John 1 The Word was God. ... The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Jesus is God!

 

[Cooper]

LOL. Same to you buddy - The MONOTHEIST Jews wrote about a servant of God, Chosen by God, Sent by God, told what to say by God, Raised from the dead by God, sits at the right hand of God. Work it out.

The people of the Old Testament were idol worshippers who kept the days and seasons, the moon festivals and sacrificed dead animals to Yahweh. Later thousands of these people came to know who Jesus really was. It is about time you caught up with them and came out of this pagan based religion. In Jesus, we have a new High Priest, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Saviour and Creator, the One Mighty God. You need to pray for a Damascus Road experience. In the meantime, you can stop leading people astray.
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[Gary Urban]

You have misunderstood. NayborBear is implying that Mary became pregnant when God planted an embryo with perfect DNA into her womb. God did not change Mary's DNA so that she became physically perfect, but even if He had she would still not have lived forever because she, like everyone since Adam and Eve, was born with a sinful nature, and she does not have access to the Tree of Life.

I understod it in the end trying to create a Queen of heaven saying her what was called perfect DNa

John 1 The Word was God. ... The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Jesus is God!

Exactly the word of God coming from the Father was revealed by the flesh of the Son of man, Jesus. Jesus came to do the will of the father .He did it perfectly without sin as the father strengthened him to perfom his will in the Son of man, Jesus.

 

[Wrangler]

The people of the Old Testament were idol worshippers

The people who wrote the OT were monotheists who reject the trinity to this day while also believing in a Messiah.

That is, the writers of the OT know God’s Anointed is not God incarnate.

 

[robert derrick]

The people of the Old Testament were idol worshippers who kept the days and seasons, the moon festivals and sacrificed dead animals to Yahweh. Later thousands of these people came to know who Jesus really was. It is about time you caught up with them and came out of this pagan based religion. In Jesus, we have a new High Priest, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Saviour and Creator, the One Mighty God. You need to pray for a Damascus Road experience. In the meantime, you can stop leading people astray.
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They aren't leading anyone astray here. They are talking to themselves and patting each other on the back. The time will come when they are bored with it and just go away to some other stomping ground.

In the meantime they are eye-opening with error. I'm still wondering why they deny being JW's.

 

[NayborBear]

I have no problem fellowshipping in Christ with 'Oneness' Christians that say the Son is the Father and they are one and the same Person in the Godhead. They are mistaken, but not necessarily without Jesus in their hearts. And we can go around the Scripture for a while and finally agree to disagree.

Yes bobby, we can all see you have no problem fellowshipping with "oneness" believers, in, I dunno what, or really care what denomination you espouse! As it seems it shifts in whichever way the "wind" you blow on your "single grain of wheat" wishes it to sway in the direction of.
Even King Solomon could "see" that which you are!
Proverbs 9:
13 A foolish woman is clamorous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing.
14 For she sitteth at the door of her house, on a seat in the high places of the city,
15 To call passengers who go right on their ways:
16 Whoso is simple, let him turn in hither: and as for him that wanteth understanding(?), she saith to him,
17 Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant.
18 But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.

But, let's see what the final words of the ascending Christ had to say concerning this "oneness" doctrine:
Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, AND of the Son, AND of the Holy Spirit:

Riddle me this, if you could stoop so lowly as to answer an inquiry?
WHY would Christ Himself, and from His own mouth make SUCH a DISTINCTION, if there ISN'T ONE? (not being a trinitarian, nor knowing, nor really caring what such level/s of vanity, or traditions, or precepts, that they, nor any other denomination espouses)

UNLESS, as it seems to be in your case? In a WILLFULLY BLIND IGNORANCE, have CONCEDED, further growing/s of the "Fruit of the Spirit?" To THIS:

Isaiah 28:15
Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

As in verses 16 & 17 above? This is WHERE your HOPE/S lay!

As it gives the tares in you pleasure, like the locust army that consumes everything it can, in the stunting, and a further growing of the Holy Spirit of the believer!
MUCH to the grieving OF the Holy Spirit!
Which would do THIS! IF the believer would CHOOSE to ALLOW it to do so!

Isaiah 28:18
And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it. Which happens when the honeymoon is over, and the REAL WORK of the Kingdom BEGINS!
Ecclesiastes 8:
9 All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.
11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.


Let the reader be aware that his "oneness" doctrine? Is not a blessing!
But THIS:

2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he IS God.

Which can be seen by the mocking and scoffing of the many posters that have courage in challenging "oneness" doctrine/s!

 

[robert derrick]

"The people who wrote the OT were monotheists who reject the trinity to this day while also believing in a Messiah."

The prophets who wrote in the First Testament would have rejoiced to see Jesus day (John 8)

The Jews that gave lip service to Jesus as Christ, yet clung to an Old Testament law and Lord Jehovah, were Judaizers seducing Peter and rebuked by Paul.

"I would they were even cut off which trouble you." (Gal 5)

You Jehovahites (They are not JW's!) are wanna-be Jewish Judaizers.

 

[NayborBear]

I understod it in the end trying to create a Queen of heaven saying her what was called perfect DNa


Exactly the word of God coming from the Father was revealed by the flesh of the Son of man, Jesus. Jesus came to do the will of the father .He did it perfectly without sin as the father strengthened him to perfom his will in the Son of man, Jesus.

Wow! You got the queen of heaven out of that?
Interesting.

 

[robert derrick]

"The writers of the OT know God’s Anointed is not God incarnate."

The Jews accused Jesus of blasphemy for claiming to be the Christ, which they knew was to make Himself God. (John 10)

"Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." (John 8)

Jesus is the "I AM", because He said so. For this they had Him crucified: " Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am. Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? Ye have heard the blasphemy..." (Mark 14)

Even as your fathers had Jesus crucified for claiming to be the I AM, so would you today.

 

[robert derrick]

A created christ is a false christ. Those who proclaim a created christ are led by the spirit of antichrist. (1 John 4)

 

[robert derrick]

"Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am." (John 13)

Jesus is the Lord I AM, the Lord He is God.

No amount of churlish Greek is going to change that simple truth.

 

[robert derrick]

This is the true God, even Jesus Christ the true One, whom we are in. (1 John 5)

We are in Him that is true, who confess Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, and not with the lips only, as do they that serve a cult of "Jehovah', and push a created and false christ.

 

[robert derrick]

"Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." (Luke 4)

"Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ." (Col 3)

We worship and serve the Lord our God Jesus Christ, and Him only. The Lord Jesus He is God and Him only shall we worship and serve.

The Jehovah cult worship Jesus in vain, because they worship Him not at all, but rather preach a falsely created christ.

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." (Rom 16)

Jehovahites, JW's, Arians, whatever... You have abundantly marked yourselves as brute beasts pushing pagan ideology.

Scat.

 

[Wrangler]

Jesus is the "I AM", because He said so.

I am is a common expression used even today and has never been a claim of divinity.