Once Saved Always Saved

[BloodBought 1953]

I believe BB has little to no actual experience living the Christian life. I'm not saying he's not born again. I'm saying he's well versed in a particular doctrinal creed and belief system that he's been taught, like a JW or a Mormon is, but I don't sense that he has any actual practical experience with the truths of God. I'm not saying he's not saved. I'm saying he is still a babe in Christ. He has yet to get off the milk knowledge of the gospel, as tasty as it is, and learn what it means to actually live for God in his salvation and consume the meat and potatoes of the word.

Want some REAL “ MEAT?” “ Love God and live as you please”....... you will be a True Meat- Eater If you ever have the Faith- Based Courage to Live that life out ......you can’t even understand that—- much less live it.......it takes REAL Faith....not baby- Based lip service....

 

[Ferris Bueller]

just don’t think that your Behavior Improvement Saved you or kept you Saved—— “THAT” is When it becomes a “ DEAD WORK”...... do you understand now...

What I understand is you still think everyone who disagrees with you can only be saying your works save you and keep you saved. That seems to be par for the course for Osaser's. Why is that? Why is it impossible to not believe in Osas and that not be a works gospel?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Want some REAL “ MEAT?” “ Love God and live as you please”...

OMGosh, if you only knew how you're misusing Luther's words.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Want some REAL “ MEAT?” “ Love God and live as you please”....... you will be a True Meat- Eater If you ever have the Faith- Based Courage to Love that life out ......you can’t even understand that—- much less live it.......it takes REAL Faith....not baby- Based lip service....

What are you talking about 'lip service'? I'm the one advocating obedience to God. And you're calling that a works gospel.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Want some REAL “ MEAT?” “ Love God and live as you please”...

If you think real meat is sinning then I'm not really interested in your gospel, thank you. In my Bible, eating meat is NOT sinning.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

... do you understand now, Accuser Of The Brethren?

I'm a born again believer and I'm calling you out on your teaching. If doing that makes me an accuser of the brethren, what does that make you when you do it? Please stop misusing Biblical phrases.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Problem is, BB, God is masterful at wearing the justice and mercy hats at the same time. Humans... not so much. Even the converted type. You know what I'm talking about. Where I think your approach goes off track is where you seem to insist that people understand exactly what you're saying and right now or else be damned. Isn't that taking a little too much on yourself? Conviction is the Holy Spirit's job, not ours, am I right?

“ Conviction Of Sin” is indeed the work of the Holy Spirit.....”reproof and rebuke and correction” for the Purveyors Of False, Perverted “ Gospels” such as “Lucky Repentance” and “Refrain From Willful Sins or be Damned” can and should be the job of Fellow Believers who are “ Walking according to the Spirit”...

 

[Corlove13]

<<<We can't do nothing without God ..>>>

We can’t do anything good without God.

<<<Are you saying God forces one to accept His Gift?>>>

Not at all. There is nothing in what I said in my post that even suggest that in the least bit.

Tong
R3351

Therefore then
Thanks be to God because God Got them to obey....
Or thanks be to God that through obedience they received His Spirit that gave them life...

What does the rest of the chapter show?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

If you think real meat is sinning then I'm not really interested in your gospel, thank you. In my Bible, eating meat is NOT sinning.

You just aren’t capable of “ getting it” are you? Let me try to break it down for you....

This is the ULTIMATE WAY “ NOT” to Sin! It’s why “ Love God with all of you Heart , Soul, and Mind was always the NUMBER ONE COMMANDMENT! If a person LOVES GOD they will not WANT to Sin! Can’t you GET that? Obligation , pleasing your local church “ Fruit Inspectors” , the Fear of dropping into Hell every time you “ stumble”..... do you really think that these are the things that God is looking for?

Here is your Problem—— Your “god” is too small....He is not that “ Angry Old Man in the Sky” always demanding that you be a “ good widdle boy” .....God wants Love.A Love Freely Given when we have the freedom to do otherwise .....try to put on your Big-Boy Pants and eat at the True Meat- Eaters Table.....try to dig up some Spiritual Insight and let this Lightbulb Moment happen—— if one Truly Loves God, He will Strive to please God from the Heart....Love is the Engine that drives True Obedience.....you need to go away and ponder that Truth for a while.....come back after you have eaten a little Meat for a change.....

 

[Corlove13]

<<<We can't do nothing without God ..>>>

We can’t do anything good without God.

<<<Are you saying God forces one to accept His Gift?>>>

Not at all. There is nothing in what I said in my post that even suggest that in the least bit.

Tong
R3351

What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law, but under grace? Certainly not! Do you not know that when you offer yourselves as obedient slaves, you are slaves to the one you obey, whether you are slaves to sin leading to death, or to obedience leading to righteousness? 17But thanks be to God that, though you once were slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were committed. 18You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
So there is the answer.....you have been set free......and they can't be set free unless they have received the Spirit through obedience...this is the way they are no longer slaves.

Say they obeyed and didn't receive the promised Spirit and sins washed away...would they be thanking God?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I “ Never” put anybody on “ ignore”—
But you do only read 10% of what they post.


Only you . And for good reason.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

FB, if someone is being practiced and tested in trust and hope, it is for the purpose of making them able to bear love. You can’t insist they bear Gods love before He has made them ready to bear it. You can try to get them to act more mannerly, but you can’t humble them, God has to do it.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

You’re now out of control BB.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

If you want my opinion, I’m happy to give it. Your flesh is too easily stirred up. When someone is arrogant or nasty, they get you to respond in kind. If you want to ask God for help, ask Him to free you from that.

That’s advice I know that I need......but there is also a thing called “ Righteous Anger”.....and Tares make me Angry.....that “ anger” comes from God......I need to find a better balance, perhaps .....I am already much aware of that and I pray about it often....every time I come in here , I try to be “ nice”, Believe it or not.....witnessing the Gospel Perversions I see in here, I can’t help but get angry....God is angry too .....don’t forget that as you pray for me....

 

[stunnedbygrace]

That’s advice I know that I need......but there is also a thing called “ Righteous Anger”.....and Tares make me Angry.....that “ anger” comes from God......I need to find a better balance, perhaps .....I am already much aware of that and I pray about it often....every time I come in here , I try to be “ nice”, Believe it or not.....witnessing the Gospel Perversions I see in here, I can’t help but get angry....God is angry too .....don’t forget that as you pray for me....

you should delete that post immediately. Don’t make excuses for your lack of love and just ask God for love. Just ask, BB.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

You’re now out of control BB.


I suppose you would accuse Jesus of being “ out of control “when he whipped the Money Changers....The Accursed , perverted Gospel Spreaders are the ones Shipwrecking the Faith Of Newbies....How about some words of wisdom for them?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

you should delete that post immediately. Don’t make excuses for your lack of love and just ask God for love. Just ask, BB.

I don’t “ Love” Tares....
I am not required too..

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Can you really think you are in a position, as much as you have been forgiven, to damn someone as you did that other man your Lord also loves? Think about what you are doing!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Has the forgiveness you have received turned to a pride that would damn other men? You are not God. Oh, BB, I am distraught for you because your fall is going to be horrendous. God will not let you continue this way.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

That by itself doesn't make me or anybody else 'chief of sinners'. You're misusing the phrase. Paul was a murderer. He persecuted the church. My record's not quite as illustrious as that. I'd be lying if I tried to boast of being 'chief of sinners'.

My God, man.....do I have to draw you a picture? I AM EXAGGERATING! EXAGGERATING TO MAKE A POINT ! Can't you SEE that? Of COURSE I am not the Worst Sinner That ever lived....its an example to show that even though we are Saved , we still have an Old Adamic Nature within us that is Wretched beyond belief....we are still Sinners....Saved Sinners for sure ....but if not for the Indwelling Holy Spirit within us, we would all Be “ Reprobates”.....That is Biblical...