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Listen, God loves you--you don't have to be Jewish.
That's not what God is about.
I showed where Christ said many would come from East and West and enter the Kingdom.
You can be one of them. God is love.
I am one of them , those of which you will never be with the mindset of the heathen nations. Amalek, canaan, Esau, Moab , ammon who ever you come from your father inherited lies
 

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It doesn’t say sell yourselves you need to use a better translation. And it says we will be sold. If you are sold then it’s already bought and qānâ being redeem no one would redeem us under the curse . According to you it should say you will be offered for bondsmen and no one will buy you. You gotta have proper English to read old English
Nope, the Hebrew word translated "buyer" has nothing to do with "redeeming from the hand of an enemy".
The verse says "no one will buy you".
People bought your ancestors.
That verse isn't about you.
 

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I am one of them , those of which you will never be with the mindset of the heathen nations. Amalek, canaan, Esau, Moab , ammon who ever you come from your father inherited lies
You've inherited lies--I've just proven it to you.

Here's how the Jews (they know Hebrew--they speak it every day in liturgical settings, and have so done for thousands of years) translate the verse into English :

And the Lord will bring you back to Egypt in ships, through the way about which I had said to you, You will never see it again. And there, you will seek to be sold to your enemies for slaves and handmaids, but there will be no buyer.
 

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I am one of them , those of which you will never be with the mindset of the heathen nations. Amalek, canaan, Esau, Moab , ammon who ever you come from your father inherited lies
Do you know who controls the transmission of the Hebrew language?
Do you know who wrote the Hebrew lexicons?
Do you know who teaches Hebrew in universities?
Do you know who disseminates the knowledge of the Hebrew language?

YOU GUESSED IT : ASHKENAZIC JEWS!

So, when you try to cite "blue letter bible" you're relying on the Ashkenazic Jews!

So, listen to how THOSE SAME PEOPLE translate the verse :

And the Lord will bring you back to Egypt in ships, through the way about which I had said to you, You will never see it again. And there, you will seek to be sold to your enemies for slaves and handmaids, but there will be no buyer.

Ipso facto, THAT VERSE ISN'T ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PEOPLE!
 

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Nope, the Hebrew word translated "buyer" has nothing to do with "redeeming from the hand of an enemy".
The verse says "no one will buy you".
People bought your ancestors.
That verse isn't about you.
I posted the strongs concordances for qānâ
 

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I posted the strongs concordances for qānâ
Do you know who controls the transmission of the Hebrew language?
Do you know who wrote the Hebrew lexicons?
Do you know who teaches Hebrew in universities?
Do you know who disseminates the knowledge of the Hebrew language?

YOU GUESSED IT : ASHKENAZIC JEWS!

So, when you try to cite "blue letter bible" you're relying on the Ashkenazic Jews!

So, listen to how THOSE SAME PEOPLE translate the verse :

And the Lord will bring you back to Egypt in ships, through the way about which I had said to you, You will never see it again. And there, you will seek to be sold to your enemies for slaves and handmaids, but there will be no buyer.

Ipso facto, THAT VERSE ISN'T ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PEOPLE!
 

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Do you know who controls the transmission of the Hebrew language?
Do you know who wrote the Hebrew lexicons?
Do you know who teaches Hebrew in universities?
Do you know who disseminates the knowledge of the Hebrew language?

YOU GUESSED IT : ASHKENAZIC JEWS!

So, when you try to cite "blue letter bible" you're relying on the Ashkenazic Jews!

So, listen to how THOSE SAME PEOPLE translate the verse :

And the Lord will bring you back to Egypt in ships, through the way about which I had said to you, You will never see it again. And there, you will seek to be sold to your enemies for slaves and handmaids, but there will be no buyer.

Ipso facto, THAT VERSE ISN'T ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PEOPLE!
Who the devil the Bible speaks of ? You guessed... You. You can’t stay on topic. And you are trying to deceive the people because we all know the point of this thread was for you to so called sink your teeth and you failed but I will leave you with this

1 Peter 5
Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.

6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.

11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
 

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Do you know who controls the transmission of the Hebrew language?
Do you know who wrote the Hebrew lexicons?
Do you know who teaches Hebrew in universities?
Do you know who disseminates the knowledge of the Hebrew language?

YOU GUESSED IT : ASHKENAZIC JEWS!

So, when you try to cite "blue letter bible" you're relying on the Ashkenazic Jews!

So, listen to how THOSE SAME PEOPLE translate the verse :

And the Lord will bring you back to Egypt in ships, through the way about which I had said to you, You will never see it again. And there, you will seek to be sold to your enemies for slaves and handmaids, but there will be no buyer.

Ipso facto, THAT VERSE ISN'T ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PEOPLE!
Oh and deal with this for a bit.
Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken it.
 

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Who the devil the Bible speaks of ? You guessed... You. You can’t stay on topic. And you are trying to deceive the people because we all know the point of this thread was for you to so called sink your teeth and you failed but I will leave you with this

1 Peter 5
Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.

6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.

11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
When did I tell a lie?

Who has preserved the Hebrew language for thousands of years?
The Jews.
Who taught it to America?
The Ashkenazic Jews.
Who is at the base of your concordance?
Those doggone Jews!

So, they have interpreted the verse for you
And the Lord will bring you back to Egypt in ships, through the way about which I had said to you, You will never see it again. And there, you will seek to be sold to your enemies for slaves and handmaids, but there will be no buyer.

It doesn't say what you want it to say--it's not about you. You're not Jewish. You're deceived. You should've been on guard.

Now, I'm so tired I'm starting to hallucinate. Gotta get rest.

Peace in Christ!
 

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Oh and deal with this for a bit.
Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken it.
Deal with this for a bit : you don't think stuff through, so you haven't even considered how nonsensical it would be to have a Black Jacob be the twin brother of a White Esau. LOL Your view makes ZERO sense. It stinks.
No, man, they were twins and looked probably Arabish.
 

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Deal with this for a bit : you don't think stuff through, so you haven't even considered how nonsensical it would be to have a Black Jacob be the twin brother of a White Esau. LOL Your view makes ZERO sense. It stinks.
No, man, they were twins and looked probably Arabish.
You are racistish.
 

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Impotent namecalling isn't going to revive your dead argument. Just accept it. Take it like a man.
Why are you being so rude and trying to stir someone up?

Your entire post is offensive and demeaning.
Is that supposed to represent the love of Christ in you?

Because I'm not seeing it.

For the record, your profile says you're 38. @Osiris says he's 20. You are arguing and berating with someone 18 years younger than you on the internet and guess who is being more dignified and respectable in character?

He's being the better man.
 

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Why are you being so rude and trying to stir someone up?

Your entire post is offensive and demeaning.
Is that supposed to represent the love of Christ in you?

Because I'm not seeing it.

For the record, your profile says you're 38. @Osiris says he's 20. You are arguing and berating with someone 18 years younger than you on the internet and guess who is being more dignified and respectable in character?

He's being the better man.
Thanks, but I'm sorry to say that you don't know the discussion you're getting yourself into.

They are a Black Supremacist hate group which tells Whites they can't be saved because Jesus didn't die for them (only Black Hebrew Israelites) and that they're going to be slaves when Jesus returns. Some of them even scream "Heil Hitler" at Jews.
 

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Thanks, but I'm sorry to say that you don't know the discussion you're getting yourself into.

They are a Black Supremacist hate group who tells Whites they can't be saved because Jesus didn't die for them (only Black Hebrew Israelites) and that they're going to be slaves when Jesus returns. They scream "Heil Hitler" at Jews.

Proverbs 18:26
...with the crooked You show Yourself astute.
@Osiris

Are you running around screaming "heil Hitler" at Jews? Because I'm guessing the answer is no.
 
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@Osiris

Are you running around screaming "heil Hitler" at Jews? Because I'm guessing the answer is no.
Read the conversation.
He was saying Whites couldn't be saved.
He's a racist--but he'd say "I don't hate you, God hates you--'Esau I hated'."
Get informed before jumping in thinking you're saving someone.
 

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Read the conversation.
He was saying Whites couldn't be saved.
Get informed before jumping in thinking you're saving someone.
One of my neighbor's is a black Hebrew Israelite. He is a very nice man.

I'm not going to go through the whole thing. I have other things to work on, but regardless, mockery is not a good tool for evangelism.

Just show the scriptures.
John 10:15 onwards.
 
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One of my neighbor's is a black Hebrew Israelite. He is a very nice man.

I'm not going to go through the whole thing. I have other things to work on, but regardless, mockery is not a good tool for evangelism.

Just show the scriptures.
John 10:15 onwards.
Well, it took some work, but he knows he was believing falsehoods now.
Read the conversation.
You don't know what they believe.
They're not "nice" when they're blaspheming God calling Him a "liar" saying Whites can't be saved because Jesus didn't die on the Cross for them.

I guess you delight in their blasphemy.
You should try to join their cult.
Please record that, I'd love to see how it goes. LOL