Spirituality vs Religiosity

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soul man

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11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established; - Romans 1:11.

Spiritually is; what God has done and continues to do through us, that is the definition of spirituality. That is the simplest way to look at someone that seems spiritual. Scripture uses the term spiritual on many occasions, even one verse Paul wrote 'the law being spiritual.' Not what you do with the law because that is where religiosity gets involved - but the law in itself is spiritual. God gave the law and so I think that may be one reason people can get a little sideways when you say the law is not for us, or the law is fulfilled. They can get upset because they feel there is no respect for something God instituted.

That is not what we say - we say you keeping the law is what makes a person religious just like it did Israel. They had a Theocracy in place and represented God on earth. They were to show the rest of humanity God exsisted and this is how he handles his people - you understand Israel was/is a "my people" not a birthed people, an earthly people to present God in the world, represent him, and he had a means of presenting himself to the world.

He does that different now - he does it through you and I. Not based on law but the finished work of the cross and birthing his own children by Christ in them. Christian's are a heavenly people born from above - 'Jerusalem is above' people, 'a joined unto the Lord one spirit people.' The twain are one have become one by a birthing and not what you do like Israel - people. We will do but it comes from a different understanding and those that get that kind of an understanding will do more than someone trying to do things religiously. If you live religiously you have no time to do anything but try to work the law to stay pleasing to God. Oh the mind can be a terrible play ground.

So even though the law was spiritual it didn't make the people spiritual it only gave them a life (a life of their own - they lived by the law and had overseers to make sure they lived by the law, sounds kind of familiar today) to live a lifestyle by. You could never be spiritual and have a sin nature because spirituality is a life that comes from Christ in you. So what God does today with a spiritual being is to get them to see Christ in them as their only life and give him a mind so he can be the one that does the doing - such as the fruit of the Spirit. Is there anyone that is tired of trying to make christianity work - that is always my simplest question to those that hunger, are you tired of trying to do it, make it work because I have good news, you can never make it work. That is good news for the hungry.

How does the mind of Christ work - Paul said we have the mind of Christ (at least it is available if you don't have it), how does that work in a believer - it works by you giving him your mind so he can work out of you. As long as you do it it will not work. You have a mindless Christ' in you just waiting for you to finally wear out and ask for help in working this out. Reminds me of an old man in a rocking chair just waiting, rocking along, been there all the time but I'm working it out - I got this is a favorite religious quite. And we finally realize one day - I don't have this it is out of control and I cannot do it, what do I do Lord. Lot of "I's" there, kind of sounds like what Lucifer did to get thrown out of heaven 'I will ascend above the stars, 'I will be like God, 'I will sit on the throne, 'I will be like the most high - what. Yes that is what is in man the same "I" trouble lucifer had.
 
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Lo... as the publican come...!

"Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." Luke 18:10-14
 
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Lo... as the publican come...!

"Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." Luke 18:10-14


Amen!

10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.
12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
14 That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us. - 2 Timothy 1:10-14.
 
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Enoch111

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we say you keeping the law is what makes a person religious just like it did Israel.
To keep it brief, one could simply say that religiosity is religion without the indwelling Holy Spirit. But there is such a thing as "pure religion", which would be practiced by those who have been regenerated. The epistle of James addresses this.
 
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