Microchips Under the Skin

[kcnalp]

Like I said, you're about hate and I could care less what a hateful person thinks about the kingdom Hall, it's just going to be about hatred with you. People who are about hate are unreasonable people.

If I hated you I wouldn't be trying keep you from going to Hell forever and ever with Kingdom Hall.

 

[kcnalp]

It may be that God miraculously provides food for some Christians. There is no guarantee though. He might have other plans for some of us.

If we can't trust God's promises to provide for us then we can't trust Him for promises of salvation either.

 

[Earburner]

But I also believe that this "mark" of the beast is similar to the "seal" of God.
That the true mark is also invisible. That it has something to do with "idolatry" .
Whom will ye serve, God or the world?
The "mark" is also a "name" and a "number" .
I feel Birth certificates or Social Security numbers could fall under the same catagory.
It's all about DATA.
But that's in a literal world sense.
This "mark" I feel is more of a spiritual nature than physical.
Where does your allegience lie? kind of thing.

Will you fall down and worship this beast who creates a "mark" for all to recieve?

I lean more towards the understanding that the MoB will be a literal bio-digital device of some sort, for each person who bows down in compliance (worship) to the new economic system of the Beast.

As for "the name of the Beast", that will be used by governments for their form of "buying and selling".

The "number of his name" is already in place, through the use of "bar codes", for those who are in the business of "buying and selling".

None of the above will come to the fulness of its manifestation until after the " the four angels are loosed in the Euphrates River Region", to slay (kill) one third of men by a limited Nuclear war on a specific date, taking place in ONE day. There are Four countries (angels) that have a border on the Euphrates, they are Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran.
The world will be horrified that so many people have died in such a short time, not to mention the economic devastation it will have on the global economy.
Only then, will something be done.
And yes you guessed, it will be the MoB!!
The appeal then will be unity with "peace and safety", to "Save the Planet", satan's only home!

 

[kcnalp]

I wonder what God has planned with all the nukes. Can you imagine suicidal, Israel HATING Muslims with nukes?

 

[Earburner]

Its called planned "Mutual destruction".
Not by God, but rather by satan. He has been loosed from his "chains of darkness" ever since the first Electric light bulb, 142 years ago in 1879. Just 35 years later came WW1 in 1914, utilizing already, the new technologies emerging, through new inventions.

So then, in only 1 plus generations, just look at the genius of man, with all his "miracles and wonders" of today, in comparison to having nothing to speak of, except horses, carriages and buggy whips for 5500 years prior.
Hmmm... I wonder just exactly whose genius it was, that man was able to harness "the power of the air".
Must I tell you?

 

[kcnalp]

Its called planned "Mutual destruction".
Not by God, but rather by satan. He has been loosed from his "chains of darkness" ever since the first Electric light bulb, 142 years ago in 1879. Just 35 years later came WW1 in 1914, utilizing already, the new technologies emerging, through new inventions.

So then, in only 1 plus generations, just look at the genius of man, with all his "miracles and wonders" of today, in comparison to having nothing to speak of, except horses, carriages and buggy whips for 5500 years prior.
Hmmm... I wonder just exactly whose genius it was, that man was able to harness "the power of the air".
Must I tell you?

I don't think Satan is loosed yet. But soon!

Matthew 24:21 (NKJV)
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

 

[Amazed@grace]

OK, now I'm onboard, almost. Seeing that God is a righteous judge. How is it that you see God throwing infants in hell because their parents made a choice to have them micro-chipped?

Wrong member.
I never said anything of the sort.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Revelation is shown to John in signs

And the Crux of your point is a decent point... well reasoned as Revelation is a highly metaphoric book of prophesy.

The manner that the Israelites were marked is unique and not the same word as the one in Revelations...which is the Greek/Early Latin word for coin stamping. Coin stamping was done to ensure the money had a verified amount of silver or gold in it. Verified by the King's/Governor's/Caesar's treasury. Any other money with no stamp or something else was suspicious of value... other metals might be mixed in or the weight might be off.
As you can see in the picture below the coin was placed in between and struck...the image would then be placed on the two sides and the coin was always uneven...one side thicker than the other.

The Israelites were marked for survival just as those who were mark in Revelation were mark for destruction. No one neither the Israelites nor those in Revelation were literally marked. Ezekiel as well as John saw this in visions. Both Israelites and those John saw were marked because of their attitude of what was going on around them. The Israelites Ezekiel saw were marked because they were disgusted at the detestable things that were going on at the temple and in Jerusalem and those John saw in Revelation were marked because they basically loved the things going on around them that were related to the beast.
Those Israelites Ezekiel saw in vision were people who let God’s word guide all their actions and thoughts, that's why they were mark. Likewise, rather than being something literal such as a 666 tattoo, or microchip, the mark of the beast symbolically identifies those who let the political system rule their thoughts and actions.

 

[JohnDB]

Revelation is shown to John in signs

The Israelites were marked for survival just as those who were mark in Revelation were mark for destruction. No one neither the Israelites nor those in Revelation were literally marked. Ezekiel as well as John saw this in visions. Both Israelites and those John saw were marked because of their attitude of what was going on around them. The Israelites Ezekiel saw were marked because they were disgusted at the detestable things that were going on at the temple and in Jerusalem and those John saw in Revelation were marked because they basically loved the things going on around them that were related to the beast.
Those Israelites Ezekiel saw in vision were people who let God’s word guide all their actions and thoughts, that's why they were mark. Likewise, rather than being something literal such as a 666 tattoo, or microchip, the mark of the beast symbolically identifies those who let the political system rule their thoughts and actions.

In Revelations it talks about those in the inner courtyard receiving a seal ("Holy to God" like the Levites wore on their turban while working in the Temple or Tabernacle)...very different than the coin stamp of the beast for carrying out commerce.
Understanding yet? One is for worshipping the beast and one is for worshipping God.

So...one keeps your hat on your head and protects you from the active response of dealing with extremely holy things...the other says slave ownership.

Huge difference between the two.

 

[dev553344]

Wrong member.
I never said anything of the sort.

You can say anything you want now and it won't matter, what you posted implies what I said.

 

[Amazed@grace]

You can say anything you want now and it won't matter, what you posted implies what I said.

Just because that's how your mind works, doesn't mean anything of the sort is thought by, much lest is posted, by me.
Your mind thinks like that. Yours.
Take responsibility. Repent. Don't deflect.

 

[kcnalp]

Revelation is shown to John in signs

The Israelites were marked for survival just as those who were mark in Revelation were mark for destruction. No one neither the Israelites nor those in Revelation were literally marked. Ezekiel as well as John saw this in visions. Both Israelites and those John saw were marked because of their attitude of what was going on around them. The Israelites Ezekiel saw were marked because they were disgusted at the detestable things that were going on at the temple and in Jerusalem and those John saw in Revelation were marked because they basically loved the things going on around them that were related to the beast.
Those Israelites Ezekiel saw in vision were people who let God’s word guide all their actions and thoughts, that's why they were mark. Likewise, rather than being something literal such as a 666 tattoo, or microchip, the mark of the beast symbolically identifies those who let the political system rule their thoughts and actions.

You sound like a prime candidate for a chip implant in your right hand. Thanks to Kingdom Hall!

 

[dev553344]

Just because that's how your mind works, doesn't mean anything of the sort is thought by, much lest is posted, by me.
Your mind thinks like that. Yours.
Take responsibility. Repent. Don't deflect.

An RFID chip that one must have in the future in order to buy or sell. You posted a forehead chip for tracking and probably DNA analysis. This implies the beast and false prophet. I have nothing to repent of. If you don't want to say it then I will, and more righteous for saying it.

 

[dev553344]

Now your righteous for posting slander?
Whatever entered into you, you have my deepest sympathies and prayer that it is exorcised asap.

OK Amazed, you're starting to sound a little off here. Let's take a history lesson into your post, I asked if this RFID was implated in the forehead, which had beast and false prophet and lake of fire written all over my post. My post was directed at the OP. You responded with a forehead mark for children. So I asked the question whether you thought God would judge children to the lake of fire. You didn't answer, OK big deal. Let's move on, but telling me I'm possessed is harassment and I won't put up with it period.

 

[Wrangler]

What part of his word do I disregard? Quote please.

Read and understand post #142.

 

[Wrangler]

Where is the quote where I said such a thing? If you cannot show me the quote, you have again made a claim you cannot back up.

You really do need to stop making things up to begin with, its not only very dishonest, but it makes you look bad when you try to defend what you made up.

You claim to believe in God but speak in terms of requiring proof BEFORE acting on God's word. I am not going to waste more time on you.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

You don't have eyes to see. In your own story, they literally had a mark. For you to say they did not have a literal mark contradicts your own story.

The difference is, in your story the mark saves but in prophecy, it condemns. But you do not see the difference.

In my story I was commenting about a vision Ezekiel had, I said that clearly. No Israelites were ever literally marked in Israel.
I was showing that in scripture it was talking about marking people whether for destruction or survival. These scriptures in Ezekiel or in Revelation are not talking about people being literally marked but that judgment is being made in heaven. People are looking for some literal mark and being deceived for doing so. It's always been about peoples character, who they really are. Those who survived in Ezekiel day, the mark was not some literal mark but it was that they were sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that were happening in the temple and in Jerusalem. Those in Revelation are being marked for destruction because they love and worship the beast. It's not talking about some literal mark or microchip.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

I am speaking scripture in paraphrase and you know it.

We are to look for God's prophetic words being fulfilled in two ways:
First, we are to search the scriptures to find Jesus, and how He fulfilled all that was prophesied about Him of His first appearance. John 5:39
Second, we are to search the scriptures to
to verify how the scriptures are being "fleshed out" by the church, as well as those who are of the world. Mat. 24:4-14.

In Rev. 13:1-9 we have the symbolic picture of the last phase of the evolved formation of the 4th 10H Beast of Daniel, which began as the Roman Empire. Its depiction in Rev. 13:2 reveals it contained the remnants of the 3 beasts before it, but had through time, evolved into the status of a global power, beyond that of military might. Because the last phase of that 10H Beast shall be ruling over all the world, having no boundaries, as did the other 3 Beasts that came before it, we are to look for HOW it is ruling, and in what manner.

Now since quite a few nations today have an enormous amount of power and the military ability to destroy the world, we must look in a different direction. The evolved 10H Beast of today, does something that no other Beast or country did or does. Its heads of leadership literally worship Lucifer, aka the dragon, who is satan.
Rev. 13[4] And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast:

So then what people, power of world authority literally worships satan/Lucifer?
Ans.The Global Financial Empire of the Global Banking Elite- the Rothchilds, Rockefellers and the JP Morgans, etc.
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THAT IS the LAST stage of the 10H Beast.
You think not? Then try understanding the words: "Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?" Rev. 13:14

None of this shows me in scripture that the mark of the beast is literal, such as a microchip. You can believe what you want but you're deceiving yourself looking for some literal mark when it's always been about character, who you really are.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

If I hated you I wouldn't be trying keep you from going to Hell forever and ever with Kingdom Hall.

You're doing nothing but insulting me. That's what someone who hates considers to be love. You can believe insulting people like you do to be love, it's not. It certainly doesn't encourage me to listen to you when all you are is insulting.

 

[kcnalp]

You're doing nothing but insulting me. That's what someone who hates considers to be love. You can believe insulting people like you do to be love, it's not. It certainly doesn't encourage me to listen to you when all you are is insulting.

The Christian Bible is an insult to Kingdom Hall, that's why JW's constantly try to change the meaning of nearly every Scripture. 'Symbolic" , "not literal". Even the NWT says Jesus is God and the "everlasting fire" that Jesus warned us of is true. JW's don't even believe their own NWT! And so, the Mark of the Beast is not "literal" to JW's. Satan has done his work at Kingdom Hall!